I donât think im quite ready to participate in this book club reading - I want to get a good few more kanji under my belt and start my Genki 1 textbook before then - but I was wondering how often a new book is started? is there a main page for the absolute beginners book club, and is there anything else I could be doing in the mean time to prepare for (hopefully) participating in the next book?
Hay everyone I am wondering is the vocabulary list is already somewhere? I would like to get started on that before may. This will be my first book club and I want to be ready:)
Thanks!
Ohhhhh Iâm mighty tempted to try join in, although Iâm only halfway through Genki I (finding it a bit⊠sterile?) but I have started with some graded readers as theyâre a bit more interesting. At the very least I might try follow along, even if at a slower pace.
I think you could expect the next book to start in early July. We typically read one book at a time (though there are a bunch of offshoot clubs these days). It would definitely be challenging if you donât know any grammar; the kanji are less of a concern at this point because the books we read in the Absolute Beginners Book Club usually have furigana.
If I were you Iâd focus on grammar for a while. You could join the next book in July or have a look at one of the old book clubs before then. There are always people around to answer questions in those threads as well
The main page of ABBC is here, and it is also in the original post. On the main page there is a list of previous club picks, each of them has dedicated threads with schedules, chapter discussions etc, so you can see what it is.
I am the definition of absolute beginner, but this looks really intriguing! I am not sure if Iâll be super vocal or present in the discussions, and might lurk a bit at first, but Iâd like to at least try and follow along, see how well I can do!
If we stick with the plan of a week break in between each book then the next book will start July 10th. Weâll hold a vote to decide which book to read next about 6 weeks before to give time for people to purchase the book before starting.
the ones in the book couldnât resist ăăżăŸăăă
youâll just come across them as you read ⊠if you have questions post them up even if they seem silly, someone else will have the same question.
as was saidâŠ(by a seasoned readerâŠwho is also one of the folks who has also helped me in the past with bookclubs )
sometimes (maybe every sentence) you may feel like youâre banging your head against the wall but thatâs what the club is for ⊠everyone helps everyone else.
You can always search the thread (when the club starts), the whole board, as well as bunpro (if you use that resource. Lots of ways to learnâŠreading Japanese for a native English speaker isnât easy (but it is easier than listening comprehension)
Honestly, my best advice (considering reading begins in a few weeks) is to spend 10 to 20 minutes a day watching episodes of Cure Dollyâs Japanese from Scratch course. (Turn on subtitles.)
Itâs okay if you donât understand the material at first. Youâre not necessarily expected to right away. Simply getting exposure to concepts will make a big difference in understanding them later. If you make it through the first 24 videos (start today!), youâll be in a much better position to learn as you go if you stick with the book club.
If you havenât done so yet Iâd try and get your head around the plain form of verbs and adjectives in past and non-past, positive and negative, and the te-form of verbs. These will come up a lot and if you can learn to recognise them it will make your reading a lot easier.
So for example the verb - æłłă - to swim:
æłłă
æłłăăȘă
æłłăă
æłłăăȘăăŁă
æłłăă§
the adjective: é«ă - tall
é«ă
é«ăăȘă
é«ăăŁă
é«ăăȘăăŁă
And to give an idea on how much there is to know about these, theyâre covered across Cure Dollyâs videos numbered four through eight (five videos). Thatâs about an hourâs worth of watching!
Hello everyone! Iâd really like to participate in this, but Iâve just recently started studying grammar and Iâve chosen to use Bunpro.jp instead of Genki. I actually have both Genki I and II, but the last time I tried learning Japanese I found it difficult to get excited about anything because of how rote the studying seemed. I couldnât motivate myself to finish even the first chapter. By the time May rolls around I should have finished most of the N5 grammar points Bunpro has, do you think thatâs an acceptable place to be or will I still be struggling quite a bit to read anything?
Also, I know Genki is sort of the gold standard, but do you think using Bunpro is an acceptable replacement or should I ditch it and just try the textbook route again?
I donât think you should ditch it, but supplementing it isnât a bad idea, there is a lot of nuance and information that gets lost in simply using bunpro. (Not that I not love bunpro, use it myself after all!). You donât NEED to go the textbook route, you can try to encounter it in the wild by reading a lot and stuff, but Iâd give the genki books another chance personally. Thereâs no need to do all the exercises, but seeing as you own them Iâd recommend at least reading through each chapter once and doing some exercises to form your own sentences with the grammar patterns you learn, then just add them to bunpro (there is a genki path, so you can follow that if you want!) to keep it in your memory. If you feel youâre still struggling / failing on certain grammar points then, you can always read the other linked reading on bunpro, or just read more to encounter the grammar points in the wild.
For your level, this manga will be an excellent first choice though, itâs one of the easier ones around, and if you do have any questions, feel free to ask them always
This will be my first WK bookclub. I have volumes 1-6 now and Iâll probably start studying the vocab soon. Iâm really looking forward to actually following one of the bookclubs.
When adding vocab to the list, I noticed a few words that were skipped in chapter one. Is the goal not to add every word the first time it appears? Iâm wondering if I should fill in missing words as I see them. Iâm also worried Iâm going to end up adding words that are just seen as clutter.
Whatâs typicalâŠpeople add words they have to look upâŠHence âmissingâ words. The sheet isnât necessarily meant to be a vocab list of every word in the book on day 1âŠBy the END of the week then the sheet is filled and folks move onto the next chapter.
The people that read a lot already know more vocab so if you donât need to spend time looking it up then thereâs little need to add it to sheet right? (spending time filling out a spreadsheet takes away the fun of readingâŠis reading Japanese funâŠhmmm)
As long as folks in general pay attention to the instructions and fill out the sheet properly it doesnât make a lot of difference who adds words.
The most common mistakes that occur (what Iâve seen):
Grammar does NOT go into the spreadsheet. (a common question but nope doesnât belong)⊠an argument for another thread
Use the dictionary form of words (i.e⊠if èăăŠă in the book/manga⊠use èă in the spreadsheet)
Page numbering is typically based on the physical book (sometimes a separate column is added for digital book i.eâŠ% to make it easier on the digital group)
Incorrect meanings recorded - happens when someone is unsure and uses a translator (if you arenât 100% sure - donât add) Post up a question to the board and then throw it in the sheet when you get an answer. People may mean well, but all it does is confuse new folks trying to understand a very strange sentence (ask me how I know)
Donât worry too much thoughâŠjust do your best and enjoy the book. Really the best thing you can do is use the forumsâŠany question you have someone else WILL have, if not now later months from now as these clubs stay around.