# Te and masu form **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Created:** [March 3, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735 "2026-03-03T03:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sg31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sg31/32/796348_2.png) [@sg31](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sg31)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/1 "2026-03-03T03:53:43Z")
Wouldn’t it be nice to see the “te” and “masu” forms of the verbs? ---
**Author:** ![prouleau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/prouleau/32/376127_2.png) [@prouleau](https://community.wanikani.com/u/prouleau)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/2 "2026-03-03T03:59:57Z")
In my opinion these forms should be studied as part of grammar. Wanikani doesn’t teach grammar. Knowing how to write these grammatical forms does nothing to reinforce kanji. ---
**Author:** ![sg31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sg31/32/796348_2.png) [@sg31](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sg31)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:21am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/3 "2026-03-03T04:21:16Z")
It can be an additional vocabulary. And these forms are better memorized than studied. ---
**Author:** ![rentkofm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rentkofm/32/809270_2.png) [@rentkofm](https://community.wanikani.com/u/rentkofm)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:25am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/4 "2026-03-03T04:25:19Z")
Sorry, but I’m gonna have to agree that they should be in grammar. I feel like separately teaching them would cause a slew of issues, mainly lesson/review clogging as well as the fact that mnemonics are WK’s whole thing, so new ones may need to be developed for the te/masu forms—and that WK isn’t a “grammar” learning platform like other sites are. ---
**Author:** ![sg31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sg31/32/796348_2.png) [@sg31](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sg31)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:30am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/5 "2026-03-03T04:30:55Z")
These forms have to be memorized actually. So they’re more like vocabulary. The SRS used in WaniKani can be really helpful with that. ---
**Author:** ![rentkofm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rentkofm/32/809270_2.png) [@rentkofm](https://community.wanikani.com/u/rentkofm)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/6 "2026-03-03T04:35:53Z")
_Sure_, but what makes WK different from other SRS platforms like Anki? I just don’t see how Tofugu would justify halting other WK updates to add this feature, especially when you could download an Anki deck online with the forms. ---
**Author:** ![sg31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sg31/32/796348_2.png) [@sg31](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sg31)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:38am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/7 "2026-03-03T04:38:50Z")
But I don’t want to use other platforms. LOL If this feature is added, the user has an option to NOT show the forms. That would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Spoon1612](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/spoon1612/32/731076_2.png) [@Spoon1612](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Spoon1612)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:53am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/8 "2026-03-03T04:53:43Z")
That’s where the reading note comes in to place. You can add whatever you want there to reinforce your studying. Write 1 time is equal to read 100 times anyway. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/8/5/f/85f91aefee734188ae82bc1decce1e1131aaaac5.png) And the conjunctions are fundamentally a part of Grammar (a huge part if I dare say so myself), so its better to learn with that instead. ---
**Author:** ![trunklayer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/trunklayer/32/729917_2.png) [@trunklayer](https://community.wanikani.com/u/trunklayer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:56am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/9 "2026-03-03T04:56:55Z")
Btw, you might already know this, but [jisho.org](http://jisho.org) has “show inflections” function: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/9/0/c/90cfef338547c77c781c2be974a2eefdd6494624.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/c/4/e/c4ebf4f04ab5d3ccd5b427d4400224d8258917fb.png) ---
**Author:** ![sg31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sg31/32/796348_2.png) [@sg31](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sg31)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 5:03am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/10 "2026-03-03T05:03:24Z")
これいいですね。ありがとうございます。🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 6:25am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/11 "2026-03-03T06:25:19Z")
> [@sg31](#): > > These forms have to be memorized actually. Yeah, but not individually. Once you’ve learnt how to form the ～ます or ～て forms for both of the two verb groups (and the two irregulars), you’ve learnt how to form it for **every** verb. You’re learning a method here, not a completely separate vocabulary item, and the method is equally applicable regardless of what you’re starting with. ---
**Author:** ![DuoLingo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/duolingo/32/590724_2.png) [@DuoLingo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/DuoLingo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/12 "2026-03-03T21:04:36Z")
> [@trunklayer](#): > > Btw, you might already know this, but [jisho.org](http://jisho.org) has “show inflections” function: I didn’t!!! Thanks for pointing this out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hrudey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/hrudey/32/742410_2.png) [@hrudey](https://community.wanikani.com/u/hrudey)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/13 "2026-03-05T01:33:00Z")
> [@sg31](#): > > These forms have to be memorized actually. So they’re more like vocabulary. The SRS used in WaniKani can be really helpful with that. Yeah, but that’s like saying instead of learning how to add two-digit numbers, one should memorize 34 + 18 = 52 rather than (4+8)+(30+10). Learning the grammar rules in a grammar section makes more sense IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 2:06am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/14 "2026-03-05T02:06:27Z")
> [@hrudey](#): > > (4+8)+(30+10) I generally do it as 34+10+8 when I’m doing it in my head. ---
**Author:** ![straille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/straille/32/581859_2.png) [@straille](https://community.wanikani.com/u/straille)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/15 "2026-03-05T03:04:56Z")
###### i do it as 34+10+8 and the answer is, of course, forty-twelve ---
**Author:** ![hrudey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/hrudey/32/742410_2.png) [@hrudey](https://community.wanikani.com/u/hrudey)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 2:16am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/16 "2026-03-06T02:16:52Z")
> [@Belthazar](#): > > > [@hrudey](#): > > > > (4+8)+(30+10) > > I generally do it as 34+10+8 when I’m doing it in my head. If we’re being totally for-realsies honest, I’d probably bypass most of it and just look at 34+18 as 54 -2 (34 + 20 -2 expanded). Though in a tip of the cap to the late, great Douglas Adams I might still answer forty-two, even though that’s the answer to “What do you get when you multiply six by nine?” ---
**Author:** ![DuoLingo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/duolingo/32/590724_2.png) [@DuoLingo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/DuoLingo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/17 "2026-03-06T20:29:05Z")
Okay, I’ll throw my hat into the ring 🙂 When I see something simple like 34+18, I simply see 52…and, no, I don’t have ALL these combinations memorized! But, if I could take milliseconds (or microseconds) of time between seeing the problem and seeing the answer, then I assume I would be seeing 8+4=12, carry the one and add 1+3+1=5 for 52. And I say this because this is what I’d do if the problem was more difficult to do such that I couldn’t just ‘see’ the answer! So the bottom line is we each have our own way of doing/solving things and we should just learn to do whatever works for us. Of course that doesn’t mean we can’t learn a better way of doing/learning something and then make it our ‘new’ way…oh, wow…isn’t that what we do here in our Japanese journey 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![straille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/straille/32/581859_2.png) [@straille](https://community.wanikani.com/u/straille)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/18 "2026-03-07T01:33:48Z")
that’s how we’re taught in school, and it works for me when i can write it out “properly” | | | | | --- | --- | --- | | | 1 | | | | 1 | 8 | | + | 3 | 4 | | – | – | – | | | 5 | 2 | buuuut, as with most things, my brain tends to work backwards xD i look at the numbers on the left first, so the answer here really is “forty-twelve,” not “fifty-two,” for me ---
**Author:** ![DuoLingo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/duolingo/32/590724_2.png) [@DuoLingo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/DuoLingo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 8:39am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/19 "2026-03-07T08:39:45Z")
> [@straille](#): > > i do it as 34+10+8 and the answer is, of course, forty-twelve Very interesting! When I saw this earlier, I didn’t know what you meant. But then.. > [@straille](#): > > buuuut, as with most things, my brain tends to work backwards xD > i look at the numbers on the left first, so the answer here really is “forty-twelve,” not “fifty-two,” for me Now I understand! Neat how we all have our own way of ‘seeing’ things and using what we see to come up with our own solutions 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spoon1612](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/spoon1612/32/731076_2.png) [@Spoon1612](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Spoon1612)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 2:14am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/te-and-masu-form/73735/20 "2026-03-09T02:14:41Z")
This is really interesting tbh. In my country we’re just taught to “memorize” the carry over and never seen it written out like this. Or maybe I just didn’t pay attention in school? > buuuut, as with most things, my brain tends to work backwards xD Btw, my brain do these a lil differently, but also backwards. I look at the 8 and 4 first, knowing sure they would be over 10 when added so I just do 1 + 3 + 1 to get 5x right away, then 4-2 to get the 52… If the number is like 5-8 digits long, I still do it from left to right with 3 buffer digits rather than 2, and any longer than I do the good’ol add and carry.