# Similar looking Kanji: 替 and 賛 **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Created:** [January 15, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697 "2018-01-15T07:42:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nightic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nightic/32/46754_2.png) [@Nightic](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Nightic)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/1 "2018-01-15T07:42:20Z")
I can’t be the only one who gets those mixed up, right? ---
**Author:** ![acm2010](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/acm2010/32/43822_2.png) [@acm2010](https://community.wanikani.com/u/acm2010)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/2 "2018-01-15T08:33:52Z")
The most hardcore pair I have found is 巿市 (what were they thinking?) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/4/8/48a95054d503ac2d22e827a68b75207656ff8505.jpg) 王𡈼壬 was also not that smart … ---
**Author:** ![RefugeXD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/refugexd/32/65573_2.png) [@RefugeXD](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RefugeXD)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/3 "2018-01-15T08:39:26Z")
What… is this?!.. ---
**Author:** ![Nightic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nightic/32/46754_2.png) [@Nightic](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Nightic)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/4 "2018-01-15T08:41:32Z")
I agree those are pretty dumb, but thankfully niether case have their doppelgangers in wanikani (yet). ---
**Author:** ![temporaryuser381](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/temporaryuser381/32/151314_2.png) [@temporaryuser381](https://community.wanikani.com/u/temporaryuser381)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/5 "2018-01-15T08:50:06Z")
Pretty sure that 巿 and 𡈼 are either too outdated or just found in Chinese. Cuz they are not available in any JP dictionaries. Like Jisho, Kanjipedia etc. Didn’t check in a Daijisen though ---
**Author:** ![Thundren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/thundren/32/88511_2.png) [@Thundren](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Thundren)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/6 "2018-01-15T08:56:53Z")
This saddens me on a spiritual level. Just knowing that I’m gonna have to do this 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Abstormal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/abstormal/32/630277_2.png) [@Abstormal](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Abstormal)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/7 "2018-01-15T09:50:23Z")
> [@acm2010](#): > > 王𡈼壬 was also not that smart … WaniKani only has one of them _relief!_ The first two are just crazy similar. Even on the big version it took me a moment to spot the difference =P ---
**Author:** ![acm2010](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/acm2010/32/43822_2.png) [@acm2010](https://community.wanikani.com/u/acm2010)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/8 "2018-01-15T09:54:05Z")
@Abstormal The middle one (𡈼) still appears in lots of compounds … 聖廷呈程庭艇 ---
**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/9 "2018-01-15T09:54:48Z")
Kanjipedia is made by the people who run the Kanken, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it maxes out at the number of kanji needed for Kanken level 1, which is around 6000. That’s just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what has ever appeared in Japanese, so it doesn’t need to be ultra rare to be outside of that range. Still could be though. ---
**Author:** ![Abstormal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/abstormal/32/630277_2.png) [@Abstormal](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Abstormal)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/10 "2018-01-15T10:00:56Z")
But WaniKani treats them as if they are one and the same. So you only need to know the difference between them if learning how to write them properly (unless they affect reading, so telling them apart helps with reading or giving its meaning) ![IMG_3581](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/0/1/012664981747b8af0f6bda0a9c445a60421c8a67.JPG) My (Kodansha) kanji learner’s dictionary don’t separate them either. But they do separate tiny changes on others; ![IMG_3582](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/5/f59efec12f19c0411722b1aabe6db8c0d62d020a.JPG) So guess I won’t put any energy in telling them apoart unless I find a reason to do so 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![acm2010](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/acm2010/32/43822_2.png) [@acm2010](https://community.wanikani.com/u/acm2010)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/11 "2018-01-15T10:15:40Z")
They are actually all used as tone marks, so you could get some readings for free 😉 ![1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/9/6/9627f513d1ffd96f7203cf774bd240b271420b01.png) ![2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/4/e/4e04e225fefeb18c46abfe3caba63e36f4cd38ee.png) ![3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/d/c/dcba123b32ff454cf2d4b19b4b76258880a9c6ab.png) Edit: they appear as tone marks though, not as (real) radicals, so they won’t appear in your list in the book. ---
**Author:** ![Naphthalene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naphthalene/32/219185_2.png) [@Naphthalene](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naphthalene)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/12 "2018-01-15T12:14:32Z")
Well, I could find 巿 on: フツ kun:ひざかけ Appears in ONE jukugo in my dictionary, 田巿 (でんふつ), which my IME doesn’t even know. It’s 漢検対象外 (not part of the kanken test), as @Leebo expected. ---
**Author:** ![chezmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/chezmax/32/37261_2.png) [@chezmax](https://community.wanikani.com/u/chezmax)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/13 "2018-01-15T17:08:26Z")
In the regular font here, those two look identical. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/6/2/a/62a8b0f4c59ff2c5b6651ffcf43531480b3e5297.png) [@system](https://community.wanikani.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/similar-looking-kanji-%E6%9B%BF-and-%E8%B3%9B/25697/14 "2019-01-15T17:09:54Z")
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