You donāt have to use Anki . Itās just that mining vocab is possibly more worthwhile than learning kanji alone or with a bit of vocab you might not be interested in or use. To me at least itās more motivating to remember words and phrases that are somehow more relevant either to my personality or to the stuff I like doing. Baseball is not one of them (for now) .
This is what I was thinkingā¦ Anki on a Chromebook = ā¦ If Kitsun wasnāt $8 a month I think it would be wonderful!
HAHA! yes, I agree. Iām so proud of everything I āencounterā (as opposed to learn) in reading ćć¤ć°ćØ! ā¦ I just want to find the best way to study it.
Even the browser version of Anki? I use it on my phone.
Sounds good! Fingers crossed!
Well, I looked into the browser version of Anki and it explicitly stated that "this is only meant to be used along with the Anki program, which I cannot install on a chromebook. They DO happen to have an AnkiDroid app that installs on the chromebook, but it is super funky, and has no easy way of using it.
The time it will take to ADD cards to a flash system does not seem worth the effort, which is why I thought Koohi.cafe was the answer for me. I just found something interesting on Koohi though (since you sparked me to look into it again) so perhaps it may work still?
For a good setup I would check one of the threads Vanilla originally wrote about his setup. This thread might also be interesting to you: My Complete Journey, Reflection, and Advice for Achieving a High Reading Level in Japanese
Iām a little lazy so my setup is fairly clunky, but GoodEnoughā¢. I also prefer not having too many apps on my phone, cause they just keep growing in size.
Yeah, fair, I wouldnāt rate myself an absolute beginner - but thereās a reason all the book clubs I participate in are the beginner ones Given the relative ease I had with ꄵäø»å¤«é once I got my head around the kansai-ben though, I think I might try my hand at an intermediate book club next.
Keep in mind what you see me produce on here is what I produce with copious amounts of Google and dictionaries, and what I respond to I usually read with the help of Yomichan. What I can do on my feet is a fair bit less. Which is fine, Iām still learning, but it might skew peopleās perception.
Barely. Some Duolingo and what little Iād gleaned from anime - so I knew most hiragana and some katakana, and maybe a dozen words and three particles
Pretty much, but most of my Japanese I didnāt learn from WaniKani. Thatās one of the reasons Iām āstuckā at level 17 - I switched focus to grammar and vocab first to get more of a foundation, then started consuming content (VTubers, general YouTube, Twitter, manga, that sort of thing, as well as participating on the forums). The first bit was a very important bit of foundation, the latter is what taught me the most.
I could do with a lot more kanji knowledge though. And more vocab and grammar, but Iām slowly picking that up as I read stuff.
Thatās the best way to do it. Youāre not gonna spend two full seconds thinking about every word while reading or listening, so if you can use the SRS to get to a point where your immediate thought is the right one, youāre in a good place.
*gestures vaguely at Leebo*
*points vigorously at Jonapedia*
Anyone judging on WK level is in for a treat and a half
Iāve actually found kanji to be useful in listening. Hearing the readings for kanji I know can help me figure things out, especially in context. But the benefit is much, much smaller than in reading and writing, absolutely.
Just use Torii if thatās what works for you. An SRS is an SRS is an SRSā¦ for the most part. The important part is youāre learning vocab, which system you use for that is irrelevant.
Iām in that sentence and I donāt like it.
Seriously. Signed up for WK in 2012. Started learning Japanese in 2010. Got diagnosed ADHD in 2013 but no meds have ever really helped. Dropped Japanese till Covid forced me into lockdown and I needed something to do. Fun times.
It is, ultimately, all one interconnected thing that itās nice for your brain to make more connections between, certainly. No disagreement there. I also left out subtitles, where you rarely (though not never) get much furiganaā¦ though recently Iāve been getting frustrated just trying to find Japanese subtitles for most things, heh.
The å¤§å· beginner book club wasnāt so beginner actually . We had a story loaded with ę¬čŖ and many other ones with archaic vocab soā¦
Pretty sure youād do fine in the intermediate book clubs!
Youāve convinced me, Iām gonna spy out an interesting looking one and dive into the deep end then!
ā¦After I binge some more volumes of ꄵäø»å¤«é because watching this guy scare the pants off store clerks while his wife nerds out over a magical girl anime is hilarious
The Death Note club might end up being an intermediate club, because something tells me itās not a manga for young ones . Same if there was a Spy x Family club and if not, I might wanna start it myself at some point
At least I already know čØē» means plan
Might be interesting to read Death Note in Japanese. I know the gist of the story, but itās been so long since I watched the anime that the details are hazy, and because I never read the manga I donāt have any detailed knowledge of dialogue at all, so I canāt fall into the āI totally knew thatā trap I tend to fall into with manga Iāve read in English before.
Spy x Family looks like it has a fairly interesting premise, I might check that out too Maybe Iāll give it a go in English first to see if I like it, and then continue reading in Japanese if I do.
Okay thank you TokeruKonkoyo!!! I am trying to use my phone less and less because I really like the setup on my chromebook now (I just hope it doesāt die or my cats donāt decide to pee on it ) I have wonderfully fast gaming laptop but itās so big I quite prefer this little thing!
Iām sure you certainly can go to intermediate! TEST YOURSELF! Heck, Iām attempting to read a level 18 manga at level 7, so you can go higher too!
Well, although I have been forgetting I have Yomichan a lot, I understand. However, it doesnāt matter what peopleās perception is, as Iām learning today - you help in so many different ways it invaluable! (I wish I could give you multiple solutions to my threads )
Well, I want to be like Michael Jordan (you)
Hmm - other than VTubers (which you introduced me to fully (ććććŖ) , I am much more of a physical book person. I love my manga, and I love the forums, so hopefully that will get me somewhere.
Ooo! I didnāt think of this as being a method of sorts! Not too ashamed now
Vocab, vocab, vocab - got it! I just wish I could retain some of the vocab I encounter in ćć¤ć°ćØ!
Haha, itās not the kanji Iām worried about
But yeah, youāre right. I gotta push myself a bit to learn more. Reading ććć¦åć«ćŖć with way less (internalised) vocab and grammar knowledge than I have now taught me a lot, even though it was a bit of a struggle at first. Going for something a little bit harder canāt hurt.
You will, it just takes time and practice. Keep reading - youāll see words over and over again, and at some point you wonāt have to look them up anymore.
Yes, if people have access to Anki, it takes about 1 second to add a card with
- The word on the front
- The reading
- Japanese definitions
- English definitions
- The pitch accent pattern
- If itās an anime/show, the screen you saw it on
- The audio from the line if itās an anime
- The sentence you saw it in with the word highlighted.
- Isolated word audio.
I would love to make a video showcasing it, but Iām headed to Tokyo for the weekend and wonāt be on my computer for awhile. Pretty nutty doe
Have you documented how to achieve this in the 2 hour long video TokeruKonkoyo linked to? If so, could you give me a time stamp? Iām getting started with Anki now:)
Nah, I did it for books awhile back, but I think that was more focused on how to use yomichan on ebooks.
Ill make a new video with my full setup if you want when I get back to Takasaki. Are you interested in mining books or anime
Thank you, Iād like that
To begin with my main focus will be manga and anime. A bit of each every day. It will take a while before I start tackling text-only books but Iāll get there eventually.
Ight, Iāll see what I can do. Iāll have to go back and find the Lua scripts though since itās been a minute