📚📚 Read Every Day Challenge - Winter 2024 🎍☃🌲

Trust @javerend to add some solid knowledge to any discussion of philosophy! I love it. :smiley:

Stoicism/philosophy reply

The journal I have is basically a journalized version of The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday and Stephen Hanselman (the journal is also from them, so not adapted by someone else), I would lean pop culture, but I think the quotes from Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, et al. are well translated. Well… I don’t know know, but my impression is that it was important to them to have faithful translations (I believe Stephen Hanselman is the translator or the one managing that aspect the most) than to be pop culture-esque.

Yes yes yes. Now, to be fair, I don’t know neuroscience to any degree, so it might not be 100% true for everyone, or at least not to the same degree. But an average person is able to control what they do when they are angry, or sad, or upset, or happy, or enthusiastic.

(I’m gonna add a disclaimer here, mostly for myself, but crying is not an action that can be controlled. Can it sometimes be suppressed or pushed off? Yes. Can it always? No. And asking someone to stop crying or requiring them to not cry when upset/sad/happy/at-any-point-that-they-cry is controlling AF and you need to get over yourself. Crying is also not irrational nor does it mean that the crying person’s mind is suddenly lost. Severe emotions (of any kind) can temporarily overwhelm someone, but just because someone is crying, doesn’t mean they are. Public service announcement over.)

And anyone who says they can’t (acknowledging possible medical exceptions), are in denial or ignorant (after all if your parents/other people as you grow up don’t teach you emotional intelligence, school doesn’t either, so you might not actually know it is possible) or willfully ignoring the possibility. So instead, it is left to the people being pushed by someone else to choose how they react to that, or spin like a cone on top of a hill too. :joy:

I was with you for everything you wrote until this bit—and then I realized I seem to have a slightly different idea of what passion is.

Because I see passion as equal parts impressions and assent (to use the words introduced by someone clearly knowing far more on the subject than me! :smiley:). So to me, it doesn’t make sense to say that passion is the push, and you can assent or not. Without the assent, there is no passion.

We don’t always act on the enthusiasm/inspiration/sudden thought of a passion, but it doesn’t make it any less of a passion for us. Sometimes we might even be in phases of life where we have to set a passion aside for a while. Still doesn’t make it any less of a passion.

And if I felt driven by a passion to such a degree that I felt I couldn’t say no, I wouldn’t call it a passion anymore. It would be an obsession and/or addiction, and those are another thing entirely.

Maybe, I just have my own idea of what passion is. Or at least my own slant that doesn’t entirely fit in. It certainly doesn’t fit into the pure stoic philosophy, but then I didn’t pick up this journal thinking I’d become a stoic. I do like a lot about what I know about stoicism (even if my knowledge so far is shallow). Recognizing that my reactions to things are in my control (except you know the bodily ones (chemical/hormonal/similar) :joy:). That I can change them if I want to. That is valuable stuff.

Also, I really love stillness and serenity, and even if my version is generally a pretty cheerful version of it, there is still a quality of quiet or solidity or stillness to it that I feel like the stoics capture pretty well. So I do find it useful to read and learn more about stoicism, but I’ll probably never call myself a stoic. :slight_smile:

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oh totally, I don’t completely agree with stoics either on this stuff, just trying to say the kinds of things a stoic might say to explain themselves :laughing: Passion in a modern sense is a complicated emotion that might have elements of both, like you said, and I’m not sure how to best think about it in their terms, or what a stoic would say here.

But, like you suspected, when the stoics talk about passions, they are using a specific technical term, not our modern usage.

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I think that you’re right to challenge that stoic passion is actually passion, though, or even that a life without this kind of passion is a virtuous one. Maybe I have a lil romantic streak in me, but I’m of the opinion that sometimes letting yourself get overtaken by emotion and acting with wild abandon isn’t necessarily a bad thing :laughing:

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Jan 15, Mon of Week 3 of Q1 2024

  • JoJo Part 1, 4 chapters
  • STEINS;GATE (VN) Ch.7

  • DIJG : になると

Words of the day
  • 横隔膜おうかくまく = diaphragm. Maybe よこ because 横紋筋おうもんきん?
  • 希望的観測きぼうてきかんそく = wishful thinking
  • 五体満足ごたいまんぞく = in perfectly good health. 五体ごたい is 5-part body (not really one head and four limbs, though).
  • 不測ふそく事態じたい = unforeseen circumstances
  • 位牌いはい = memorial tablet :headstone:
  • 平屋ひらや = one-storey house

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1月8日から14日

:open_book: Back to my home post

Lot’s of Kiki! I didn’t get as far as I planned because I reread the first chapter anyway even though I said I wouldn’t… I just really like it and it sets up the character of Kiki so well. She’s a kid! Doing kid things and being annoyed when her mom nags her.

I also started to take more notes because Shannon showed up with a whole load of them and I got inspired. So I’m probably gonna take even longer still.

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:raccoon: :snowflake: :books: January 15 :books: :snowflake: :raccoon:

Was meant to start at the beginning of last week… which didn’t happen, but here I am now, and with things to read! I’ve found a collection of folktales (told by とよしま), I noticed one was called 狸のお祭り which instantly sold it to me :raccoon:

I don’t have the time to read for as long right now, so don’t want to start anything big, but I don’t want to fall out of the habit of reading Japanese regularly either. Anyways, the collection starts with a story called 街の少年.

街の少年 :notebook_with_decorative_cover: :cherry_blossom:
Progress - page 10

Words found on the Street

じろじろ ー Scrutinizing; staring


rather late reply

Meant to say thanks for finding this out but then got busy and forgot to post here, so thanks for finding the book out! :smile:

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2024-01-15

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Date Name Type Amount Time
2024-01-15 :transgender_symbol: 放浪息子 1 :green_book: Manga :white_check_mark: Chapter 4-8
:page_facing_up: 107 pages
55m
2024-01-15 :boar: デジモンサヴァイブ :video_game: VN :arrow_forward: <1 scene 40m

So I may have gotten hooked on this volume of 放浪息子 and finished the latter 2/3 of it across two sittings today. Luckily once the stuff about the play moved on from assumed knowledge the language in this book got a lot easier with much fewer lookups required.

デジモンサヴァイブ was a lot more difficult. I kind of hit a brick wall with one character’s dialogue in particular, which I talked about a bit more in my listening challenge update. Will need to push through said character’s scene with Jotoba by my side and hope there’s not too many more like that further along.

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1月15日 | Home post

  • 作家になりたい! 1 (1.63% → 6.26%)

Book is going well! Feels easier than the current BBC pick この美術部には問題がある!(1).

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:calendar: 2024年1月15日 :calendar:

:question: Title Read today Currently at Notes
:orange_book: 奥日光 2 episodes 37/62
:kimono: 舞妓さんちのまかないさん 2 chapters 92/261
:railway_car: 阪急電車 1.8% 18.26% 45 new words

Yay back at reading 阪急電車 :smiley: enjoying to be able to read at my own pace, I like how book clubs push me to try things that I would have thought were too hard for me, and I like discussing the books with everyone, but when it gets to the point that I can finish the assignment in one day it is frustrating for me to wait a whole week before reading more! And I forget a lot in between the weeks.
So I’m thinking that I will take a break from Book Clubs and just work slowly on my backlog (only 207 books/series in it, I know it’s not as bad as some people around here :eyes:)

Big congrats @Jintor and @javerend for finish your respective novel :partying_face:

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Congrats!!! I’ll aim for とらドラ next year as I build up my stamina this year some more.

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Jan 16 | Home

  • Another chapter of Dungeon Meshi. Since I’ve read these volumes before, I’m employing the ‘no lookups’ method and… it’s going alright? It’s more to do with being comfortable about not knowing something which goes against every instinct in my body, but I can deal. It turns out at some point I have the eng copies right here too, plus the anime literally covered all these chapters, so I should be good at least until volume end.
  • Had to go to the city last night so decided to continue with 僕の心のやばいやつ7 on my phone and figured I might as well continue the no-lookup method for this as well. Now I’ll say: given my vocab coverage for romcoms + familiarity with the series + furigana, no lookup works way better here, with very few words I need to circle around to check later. Just got to make sure I circle back around to them…
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:bookmark: Home post // Jan 15 :bamboo: :snowman_with_snow: :evergreen_tree:

・サイレント・ウイッチ V (3% → 9%)

Yay, no more trouble remembering the characters’ kanji names, everyone has katakana names in this series.

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ohno, if I have to wait that long, I’ll have forgotten what the cliffhanger was when I pick up the next volume :joy:

Even after I posted "Is that a challenge? :eyes: " in the freebies thread… Bless this community for being filled with nice people :crabigator:

I know I said challenge as a joke, but still, it was bothering me I didn’t read more :flushed:

I was surprised by how many chapters one case lasted. It certainly has been a while since last time I read Conan. Other than that I only have the anime for reference - one case usually being 1-3 episodes :thinking:

…What if the manga is still on-going after 10 years? :caught_durtling:

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I restarted Harry Potter 1 in Japanese. When I tried a few months ago, it was painful as my head hurt within the first 10 minutes. Now, after reading a few mangas, short stories on Satori Reader, and short passages from SKM 3, while reading is still slow moving because of the myriad of phrases I need to look up, I did 50 minutes with zero pain this morning.

Will continue.

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Some extra observations on 僕の心のやばいやつ7 or more specifically trying the no-lookup method after finishing the whole thing:

  • Time to complete dropped by about 10-15 minutes or so which is probably a net improvement, though only just outside my variability for the series, which hovers around 2hrs per vol.
  • I would say net comprehension (was I able to follow the storyline?) was about the same but specific comprehension dropped significantly (was I able to follow every single thing everybody said?).
  • However, flow state maintenance became a lot easier (because there weren’t a lot of interruptions), or, in other words it was easier to maintain stamina through a long reading session, or at least felt easier.
  • It’s a good method for consolidating words you’ve sort of half learned but need to see more in use.
  • For me at least, I don’t like it for learning new words because you only have the contextual information to go by when determining meaning, but I plan to re-read the volume anyway doing intensive reading to get all those anyway, so I guess it evens out. It remains frustrating to me in that sense. It would be even worse without furigana (as Dungeon Meshi is teaching me) because you don’t even get the pronounciation (this is probably the most annoying thing to me about logographic languages, not having the phonetics at hand).
  • Still, in concert with follow-up intensive reading of the same text, I think it’s probably the best method for speeding up reading (with a sample size of 1, lol)
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Jan 15

  • Read ジョジョ chapter 3
  • Returned to はなものがたりafter a few months. Started the second volume and read about half of chapter 6. It’s still kinda on the difficult side for me, but not too bad actually!
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Day 15

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奥日光 episodes 10 & 11, 小さな森のオオカミちゃん chapters 17 & 18

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01月13-16日 Read: Progress:
:heart: 可愛いだけじゃない式守さん Vol 1 5 pages 044/143
:wolf: 小さな森の狼ちゃん 16 pages 099/175
:soccer: ブルーロック Episode 凪1 9 pages 053/199

Haven’t posted these past few days, but I have been keeping on top of my reading!

Read one of the two chapters for this week’s ABBC with 式守さん, completed chapter 4 of 狼ちゃん, and managed 9 pages of ブルーロック (so very close to finishing chapter one in this!)

Also did some casual reading of 文豪ストレイドッグ, last night, roughly 30 pages, practising being okay with ambiguity to increase how long I’m reading for.

Some new words

任せる まかせる to leave everything up to someone else
ご名答 ごめいとう correct! bingo!
中二病 ちゅうにびょう edgelord (my own translation of this :P)
狙撃手 そげきしゅ sniper
一刻を争う いっこくをあらそう race against the clock
何から何まで なにからなにまで from tip to toe

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:green_heart: January 9-14 :bamboo:

:cat: Book Pages
:snowman_with_snow: 季節を愉しむ366日 L30?? Jan 10-15

:green_heart: January 15 :bamboo:

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Another 45 minutes continuing Harry Potter 1. This bit seemed easier than the first few pages.

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Jan 16th

Read a bit more of Alice 19th before bed yesterday, and then finished off the volume this morning. It is nice to get back into something, but also be very relaxed about it.


@javerend Oh, thanks for digging up a stoic definition of passion. Reading that, I think I’d be happy to live a life free of passion. It sounds a lot more like negative impulses, intrusive ones perhaps, and also really dark thoughts and such. Contrary to nature, like those momentary thoughts one might have that makes you go “I would never!” at yourself.

However, I’m not sure always being rational or logical is the way to go. Actually I know it isn’t. So I agree with you that sometimes we need to throw those aside when something just makes sense despite it.

@Jintor Your observations on extensive reading vs intensive reading was very interesting! I mostly intensive read, and only rarely do extensive reading and that only happens if I have a high comprehension rate (including for details).

I hope you write up your experience after re-reading intensely.

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Hey, I’m going to join you all for this! I follow the thread anyway and read every day so I started to ask myself what am I doing lurking here :joy:

Jan 1 - 15 - Reading Akiko on Satori at 1-2 episodes per day, plus other stuff like my 2nd grade biographies. My habit tracker tells me I read every day since last August :slight_smile:

Jan 16 - I had planned on doing my extensive reading of ふしぎ駄菓子屋銭天堂 Mysterious Sweet Shop on weekend mornings only, but I woke up earlier than my alarm, and since the book was right there, I read another 10 pages. I was feeling so sleepy after lunch today instead of going straight back to work I read another episode of Akiko and reread the two before. Normally I don’t do my Satori reading until after work…

Regarding the extensive reading without a dictionary thing, I’m enjoying seeing what you’re doing with it @Jintor !

Especially this is what I’m thinking is my key value add as well in terms of Japanese study. I was just drafting my next blog post with more thoughts, and this came up as my expected learning outcome. Basically, slowing down the forgetting curve of words I won’t come across enough with my slower intensive reading. I don’t think there will be a high number of new words learned/remembered, but maybe? I guess that’s something we’ll all realise in 3-4 months or so, or not. And I’ve been surprised how much the extra enjoyment factor is making me happy - completely independent of Japanese study. I’ve been spending so much of my free time on Japanese study in the last years, reading for pleasure had taken a backseat, I forgot how enjoyable it was and that it used to be a thing I did regularly!

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