Belated or not, Happy Birthday to both of you!
Joining a book club (where others can help with vocabulary lists and grammar information) along with getting used to looking up the grammar yourself might be one of the best ways to start making tangible progress.
Feeling lost? Ask questions in the book club threads.
Feeling overwhelmed? Go at a slower pace than the club and take your time.
Don’t hesitate to rely on the community as much as you need.
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「また、同じ夢を見ていた」 Reading log
- 1月4日 - Favorite phrase of the day.
- 1月5日 - A good advice for a lot of things in life, including language learning!
- 1月6日 - The novel poses a good question from the beginning - what to you consider happiness to be?
- 1月8日 - One of many 「人生とは…」 phrases in this books.
- 1月10日 - One of the characters finally found out what happiness means to them.
- 1月28日 - We finally learn what is happiness for our main character.
- Few おまけ quotes:
3rd and 4th getting lumped in together! i did do yesterday’s but didn’t get chance to post cos i went out immediately after.
read about 10 pages of 蟲師 yesterday and then 20 today, finishing off chapter one! the descriptions outside of dialogue are definitely the trickiest part for me, but it’s getting easier now i’m getting a handle on the style.
no particular words jumped out at me, but i did like the closing line, has a very folktale feel
(hello to my other early january birthday people, i wasn’t expecting so many of us)
Another one! Happy Birthday
Jan 4, wed of Week 2 of Winter Q1 2023
- はたらく細胞 Black Vol.2 Ch.7
Loss and mindbreak. Drugs as always.
- 君の膵臓をたべたい Ch.2 (start chapter, 5% => 8%)
Around 20% of the chapter, I think.
- ほっぽり出す = to abandon; to give up. From 放り出す.
- 脂っこい = greasy. Unaccustomed Kanji from 脂肪, but with 油 reading.
- 竹林 = bamboo thicket. Seems to have nothing to do with ちんちくりん, though IME suggests 珍竹林 (rarity bamboo thicket).
- 中和 = neutralization. H. pylori to stomach acid, in this case.
- 二次 = second-line. In context as 二次除菌.
- 通風 = gout. No guess from Kanji here.
- 脾臓 = spleen
- 終焉 = end of lifespan
- 溌剌 = lively
- 暴飲暴食 = eating and drinking too much
- 日常茶飯事 = everyday occurrences
- 余命幾許もない = not having much time to live. The last Kanji (in 幾許 = to some degree) is exceptionally read (usually きょ).
English fiction reading
Just a quick post. I hope to read a bit more but I think I just reached what one might call the start off the story. ^^
Happy (belated) birthday to @Cathm2, @Hantsuki and @nyxqueenofshadows!!!
The Tanuki Kotatsu Reading Den
新書太閣記 progress: 00.19% // Volume I: 02.18%
Conversations here are the complete opposite of 吾輩は猫である, so short and to the point.
Words found under the kotatsu
祥瑞「しょうずい」ー Good omen
土匪「どひ」ー Local rebels
倭寇「わこう」ー Japanese pirates of the middle ages
It has kanji!
貴方「あなた」ー You // Also has male & female versions (both read as あなた): 貴男 & 貴女
欣ぶ ＝ 喜ぶ「よろこぶ」(To be delighted/glad)
Character Kanji-Name List
for easy referencing later, because these will take some remembering
Hideyoshi: 豊臣秀吉「とよとみ ひでよし」// 豊太閤「ほうたいこう」
Volume I Characters
五郎大夫 「ごろ だゆう」// 祥瑞「しょうずい」(Goro’s Chinese name)
– Servant of Goro: 捨次郎「すてじろう」
– Mother of Goro’s child: 梨琴「りきん」
阿倍仲麻呂「あべ の なかまろ」ー Japanese scholar & poet (around 700AD)
Happy belated birthday @Cathm2 & @Hantsuki
And happy birthday @nyxqueenofshadows !
An Update and a Question
This is my first reading challenge and I’m a few days into consistently reading よつばと！volume 2.
I forgot how hard it is to understand hiragana/katakana-heavy sentences. This struggle with homophones is probably why I kept starting/stopping this book over the past year.
When I first started learning Japanese in 2021, I never thought that I’d prefer to read kanji instead of kana, but here we are!
As I’ve been reading the past few days I will stop and look up a word or phrase on every page/every other page. I don’t like the interruption to the flow of reading every time I encounter something unfamiliar. I also don’t like being clueless about a word that keeps reappearing.
Editing to add: I know part of this has to do with my reading level in general, but I think よつばと！is overall a good level for me - it just has a lot of kana and colloquial phrases I haven’t seen in my textbooks.
How do you strike a balance between maintaining your reading flow and expanding your vocabulary at the same time? Do you read through once and highlight unfamiliar words and then go back to them once you’ve reached a stopping point?
I also don’t know how worth it the work to create new flash cards specifically for book vocab would be. I don’t want to overwhelm myself with having too many separate decks of words to memorize, especially if they are words that aren’t that common.
I know as my vocab expands this won’t be as much of an issue but I don’t want to get discouraged before I can get to that point. Apologies if this question is already asked a lot - I’m sure it probably is - but I’m curious what everyone’s thoughts are in this thread.
Card Captor Sakura volume 5 – progress report
Yesterday: Continued up to page 86.
Today: Finished chapter 20, continued up to page 112.
A Clow card appeared and things escalated (as always). I have to say that an infinite darkness with no living being present is and has always been a terrifying plot point in any kind of media; just trying to imagine being stuck in such a situation to somewhat relate to the character(s) makes me feel uneasy.
Kero and Mizuki-sensei met for the first time but unfortunately I didn’t fully understand their conversation as of yet (it’s not over), so a basic understanding shall suffice for now.
@Cathm2 , @Hantsuki and @nyxqueenofshadows, it’s quite the coincidence that 3 out of 60-ish participants (according to the wiki) on their own have such close birthday dates!
I wish all of you (a belated) happy birthday!
Word or expression of the day:
ぶつかる - ((打つかる)) - to strike against, to collide with, to bump into; to encounter; to clash
I can’t give you a proper answer yet, as I need to specify that I’m first and foremost trying to ‘just’ read for now instead of reading AND putting in extra effort to mine vocabulary. (I don’t have much time and energy to do so – and the other main reason is that I’m purposely waiting until I have more Kanji under my belt because otherwise I have trouble recognising and memorising new words).
While I have been (internally) taking note of some words during my reading sessions, I have not written down anything other than the few words I add to my daily reading posts. Therefore, I mostly try to understand unfamiliar words via context first and if that’s not possible, I start looking them up. Even then, I don’t look up every single word because as you said, it disrupts the flow a lot, meaning that it’s anything from 1-5 words per page for me. I noticed that even without putting in extra effort, I managed to memorise some words here and there because some of them are common enough to appear several times throughout one chapter or even the volume.
Now, once I start reading more ‘seriously’ in the future, I would be writing down any word in my notebook that I look up and that is deemed common by dictionaries or words that happen to be of interest to me. Afterwards, I would either simply let things be as they are and read through them in my notebook every now and then or add them to an excel sheet or make some Anki entries until I amass over a hundred words before I start doing SRS using the latter (SRS with only 50 words over the span of days and weeks sounds like a rather fruitless endeavour).
In the end it is your decision how much time you want and can put into processing newly encountered words into lists, SRS etc. Technically speaking, you can adjust your method at any time, meaning that the effort you put into actually learning words from your reading may vary.
In my opinion, in the beginning, it may be more useful to start putting extra effort in learning words you encounter from slice of life-y material because they tend to be more common in actual daily life than say, fantasy or sci-fi. But again, if you wish to read more sci-fi in the future, for example, it could also be beneficial to put in extra time to learn sci-fi specific vocabulary whereas you can read other genres in a more relaxing way; as in not going all out on collecting and learning words and instead just going with the flow.
This are just my thoughts and current strategies – I wonder what other people, especially members with more reading experience, have to say on this matter. I hope that my thoughts made any sense because I didn’t quite put much time into refining my answer.
Joining late but I’m determined this time. I need to get ready for a possible interview were ill need to read a newspaper article. So the goal is at least 1 Asahi newspaper article a day.
Here are a few methods I’ve seen mentioned on the forums before:
Prelearning vocab using places such as Koohi and jpdb. Generally they’d set a threshold first for how many times it would appear in the book so as to not get bogged down by single uses that could be quickly looked up.
Reading digital in a manner that allows integrated dictionary for quick look up. Doesn’t really work with manga since their pics tho.
Making their own anki deck as they look up words.
Crunching Core 10k etc vocab lists along with one of the above.
Also making a descions on how often to deeply understand a sentence vs getting the gist and moving on so that reading doesn’t become completely tedious.
Personally I bookmark commonly used words as I read in my phone’s dictionary app (takoboto) which can be exported to an excel.
Home post // Jan 4
・ 本好きの下克上 16 (25% → 33%)
That was a long and exhausting train ride. Too much snow causing delays and chaos, almost freezing my toes off while waiting. Finally back now at least! I can’t wait to go to sleep.
Day 4 (Jan 4) Status Report
I managed to get to day 4, wow, grand achievement, I know.
I finished 第一話 of うずまき and gotta say it’s really my type of “horror”/uncanny stuff. It’s not something for everyone though, but man is the art style fitting and just gorgeous.
Anyway, if I keep going at this pace I might finish the first book in the series in two weeks from now with the occassional book club read thrown in. If I could hold on til then that would be really great!
Hope you guys are having fun reading as well! See you in my next status report (“status report” sounds kinda too serious, I don’t know what else to call it though?).
Going all out while I have time right now. I may be too busy for reading during the middle of January.
I started the second volume of Your Lie in April. Not my favorite manga but I will at least finish the volumes I have.
Three more pages of ぼっちゃん. The book is not bad it’s just that the short stories feel all pretty samey.
355 pages read 19645 to go
January 4th (Day 4)
I read chapter 9 of 海辺のカフカ and oh boi, it really didn’t disappoint! This was probably the first time I felt truly engaged with the story - how come I don’t remember this chapter even though I’ve read the book before?
I’ve also read the first half of chapter 10, and found some words I liked.
- 縞猫 「しまねこ」- striped cat
- 野良猫 「のらねこ」- stray cat
My side quest reading for today was another short story from the collection about Milton and Bulka titled Что случилось с Булькой в Пятигорске (What happened to Bulka in Pyatigorsk). This one was gruesome and unpleasant. I was a little surprised at first, but then I remembered all the strangely gruesome children’s stories and nursery rhymes I grew up with. I suppose I shouldn’t have expected this one to be wholesome. Oh well…
Happy (belated) birthday @Cathm2, @Hantsuki, and @nyxqueenofshadows!
Day 4, 4th of January
Alright, first DrDru story of the day, we meet different people and ask them who they are, where they live and what they’re doing.
In the second one we take a quiz about superheroes. How well do we know them? We basically have to answer the questions we practiced in the first stoy today.
Managed one further story, one more to go to catch up.
4/1 5 pages おばちゃんたちのいるところ (story 8)
Long reply—you surprised? Itsa me!
I’m quite bad at not looking up a word if I’m not super sure of it. It usually means very slow reading, but rarely so slow that it annoys me. However, I’m working on not looking up words I’m fairly sure of and words I can guess from context. Because I have to look up enough words that I have no idea about that always looking up the unsure ones adds a lot to my reading time.
Especially since I tend to read on paper/Switch, meaning no instant look ups.
Personally, I have not to so far started adding words to an SRS that I find while reading. For one, I only recently finished WK and once I clear most of the reviews of the last few levels I look forward to some SRS free time.
What I do though, is that in the app I mostly use for look ups, I tend to bookmark what I look up for different things I’m reading. For example, I’m looking up so much for Loopers (visual novel) that I actually put them in folders according to chapters, meaning I can actually see if I’ve looked up a word in Loopers before when I go to look it up the second/third/etc. time.
I also have a folder where I add terms I recognize I have looked up many times that still doesn’t seem to be sticking. It usually means I’ve looked them up at least 5 times probably more like 10+ before I consider adding it to this special folder. If I ever start SRSing stuff I find while I read, this is the folder I would pull from. Words I’ve looked up multiple times across different books and games. Obviously words that would be useful for me to know, whether they are generally common or not. (Considering they seem to be common in what I read.)
The main point though, is to keep looking to your enjoyment.
- Are you getting bored/annoyed/losing interest because you are looking up so much and it feels so slow? Consider either looking up less (and accept more ambiguity) or SRS words that show up in what you read (others have mentioned methods from finding word lists for specific books and such at koohi/jpdb, or making your own deck, etc.)
- Are you getting bored/annoyed/losing interest because you don’t understand enough? Consider: looking up more and/or SRS words that will show up in the thing you are reading ahead of time.
There are probably more questions/situations, but you get the point. There will be days when you have no patience for lookups and maybe that day only you only look up what you absolutely need. (One method for that is to not look up a word and instead keep reading, if the word proved critical to what followed and you couldn’t figure it out, go ahead and look it up, otherwise continue on.) And there will be days where you’ll have all the patience in the world. Same goes for enjoyment/bored and so on.
I hope my little essay helped. I’m bad at being concise. xD