Ouran High School Host Club 🌸 Volume 2 (桜蘭高校ホスト部)

I have a couple of questions.

Page 29 (chapter 4 - early part 2)


What is happening in the marked bubble? “学校っつっても” What is this? I have no idea how to break it down and even ichi.moe got confused. :joy:


Page 54 (early chapter 5)


I can’t put together what it is Tamaki says in his bubbles to the right. And by extension not entirely sure about the bubble to the left either.

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It is 学校って言っても

Page 54

He is comparing the twins with a (good-for-nothing) painkiller (バフOリン) used by common people.

自分達の思い通りにいかないとすぐコレでね When they don’t get their way, immediately this
できそこないの鎮痛剤の様なものさ It’s like a good-for-nothing painkiller.
バフOリンの半分はやさしさでできているが Half of the バフOリン is kindness.
彼らの半分はワガママでできているのだから Half of them is selfishness.

でいらっしゃる

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I guess that means it is the ゆう reading of 言う? Because I don’t see how て + いって becomes つって but I guess て + ゆって would make sense to become つって. The twins… for real, sometimes they just completely stump me.

Thanks! (Also for page 54 help!)

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A character in the book I am reading right now talks using a lot of っつ but I did not wonder about it till now :sweat_smile: I found this. It seems to be a characteristic of the Tokyo dialect.
From one of the answers:

~と言って の「と」と「い」が縮まって、「つ あるいは とぅ」となっているのでしょう。というか、が、つうか になるのと同じでしょう。

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Now Let’s Read Chapter 7

Start Date Chapter Page Numbers Page Count
Aug 26th Chapter 7 110 - 143 34

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Now Let’s Read ロマンティック・エゴイスト - Part 1

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Sep 2nd ロマンティック・エゴイスト - Part 1 145 - 166 22

OBS!!! See end panel in the OP!

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Seems like this mangaka has a soft spot for mischievous twins, doesn’t she? :joy: I’m finding this chapter even more enjoyable than a typical Ouran chapter. I am happy that we decided to read it.

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I have to say that not only do I appreciate the mischievous twins being girls, I also just appreciate having more female characters in general, especially the more eccentric kind. I know that the idea of Ouran is basically it being a reverse harem, but I miss having female characters around with interesting personalities.

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Me too! Ouran’s female characters are mostly audience with the same personality.

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Now Let’s Read ロマンティック・エゴイスト - Part 2

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Sep 9th ロマンティック・エゴイスト - Part 2 + Egoistic Club 167 - 188 22

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Only three and a half months behind, and I got through chapter 5 in a single (one-hour) reading session!

Something about this manga makes it so difficult for me…

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At least for me, I also build up the difficulty, so the longer I’m away, the harder I remember it to be. (I’m really in trouble on getting back to it. :sweat_smile: )

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Same, plus I keep turning to other manga I think I might enjoy more. I think if I get back on track with club and then stay on track, it might be ok, but idk how well I’ll be able to catch up since I’m already behind again in… all my active clubs?

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I must confess I gave it up for now :smiling_face_with_tear: it started feeling like a chore compared to other readings and I’d keep leaving it behind. I might come back to it someday, but I don’t think it will be too soon.

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Finally finished volume two, except for the Romantic Egoist story. Looks like I’ll be ready to start up volume three in January!

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You do remember that the club is supposed to start volume 4 then, right? (I’ve barely started volume 2 and I am not sure when I’ll get around to reading Ouran, right now…)

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Although I’m not current on start dates, I know I’m still a whole volume behind…

I’m working out my reading schedule for 2024, and at the moment, I’m looking at one chapter per week of Ouran, so I may just casually follow one volume behind those who are reading at club pace.

I’m still a bit stuck on why Ouran gives me so much trouble. This was brought up in one of the club threads, but it still bothers me that there’s something I’m missing.

Looking at vocabulary stats alone, I should be finding Ouran on par with Detective Conan, but my experience doesn’t line up with that at all.

For example, something like this comes off as a lot easier than a panel with a third the dialogue in Ouran:

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Currently, my hope is that I’ll get used to the style and my reading speed will increase over time.

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My impression of the difficulty (at least in the first volume) was that the kids are speaking in kind of a posh register. They’re putting on airs, using fancy words and expressions and ways of phrasing things. It’s more akin to not understanding something written in a dialect than just missing some vocab here and there. Even compared to something with a lot of technical vocab but written in a more plain style, it would probably feel harder.

There was a discussion somewhere recently (I think it was reddit? but it spilled over into other places) about an ESL learner picking up Good Omens and asking if it was supposed to sound like gibberish (I think Hitchhikers guide was also mentioned). Even though they were a pretty strong reader and writer, they were having a really hard time picking up on the really dry, sarcastic, british humor in the writing. I think this is kind of akin to that

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There’s something I may have mentioned in the prior discussion on this and forgot, but it may be it’s that when I encounter an “unknown” word in Detective Conan, it’s a word I’ve encountered before, so there’s a familiarity. But each time I encounter an unknown word in Ouran, it’s the first time I’ve encountered the word before (and perhaps also the last time I will?)

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Until the next time you read something with a bunch of posh rich kids, at least :wink:

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