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Yes, I noticed that, too. There are also some sentences with worse pronunciation, though. The sentence

今週末は各教科の先生から出された宿題に追われ忙しくなる予定です

has the pronunciation し(pause)ゆくだい, as if the し is a part of the preceding word. I guess I will have to be more careful and discerning when using Bunpro.

I tried going to the 来週 page and the first sentence says らいしゆうは (as in a hard “ha”, not “wa”).

Yeah… do not use this as a pronunciation guide.

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There is something fishy going on.
I have 来週 in my review queue and I’d swear back when the first sentence was given to me (a few weeks ago) it had “wa” not “ha” like it has now…

But you are right: with these oddities cropping up, it now makes beginners like me question everything :frowning:

EDIT: Looks like at the moment, all their 母は have は pronounced “ha”. With しゅ they must’ve accidentally replaced the pronounciation with that of しゆ.
These were likely supposed to be changes in unique sentences but got applied in bulk. I’m sure they’ll fix them soon enough, but maybe not before Monday :slight_smile:

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A follow-up on Bunpro audio:

They’ve switched to Microsoft Azure for sentence readings mainly because the old software was having issues with kanji readings - and the odd stuff last week with ha/wa shi-yu/shu etc was because of attempts to fix the kanji readings.

The new voicing may be more accurate, but to me both male and female sound really poor :frowning:
Apparently it’s because of heavy compression and they’re looking to fix this ASAP.

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Hi! Looking for some advice from the more veteraned users, specifically those who had previous Kanji experience before starting WaniKani. For reference I am roughly around a level 15 and I am just wondering if anyone had a similar experience and felt it was worthwhile in investing a lot of time before starting to learn any new content?

I’m gonna refer to @Naphthalene’s level 60 post where they discuss the topic:

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Thank you this was very helpful and makes me feel much better about investing in WK!!

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I’ve seen the “challenge” to keep reviews and lessons to 0/0, and it’s confused me. Are we not supposed to finish all our lessons and reviews daily?

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That’s one way of approaching WK. It quickly builds up into a very heavy workload - hundreds of reviews a day.
I have other claims on my time, so I pace myself to 5 lessons a day, which works out to maybe 100 lessons.

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For reviews yes it’s best to clear them every day or the SRS will be less effective; for lessons it just depends how fast you want to progress.

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Plenty of people go at a slower pace. There’s nothing wrong with that.

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Sometimes, especially when you level up you can get 50 or 100 lessons at once. It can help to try to not do 100 lessons in one sitting, but to space them out over a few days. But some people will try to only do radicals and kanji to level up and leave a huge pile of vocab behind.

So the challenge is to try to pace yourself so you clear out all the lessons (including vocab) on each level, so you aren’t leaving a bunch of words behind. And to make sure you don’t accidentally go on vacation for 6 months and come back to a pile of 1000+ reviews.

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I did the first few levels at max speed, and the load of burn reviews after a few months was so overwhelming that I couldn’t handle the review queue and stopped taking new lessons altogether for a week or two until the review queue went back to 0.

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what is the difference between the kanji version and the vocab version?

Vocab items are the actual words of Japanese that you will encounter in the language when it’s written or spoken.

Kanji are one kind of building block for vocab.

Occasionally, a vocab will be composed of one kanji.

For instance the kanji 水 and the vocab 水.

The vocab 水, since it’s a word, has one way of being read, みず. When you answer you have to answer that way, because that’s what the word that means “water” is.

The kanji 水, since it’s a building block, had several possible readings. The system is less strict about what kind of answers it wants for kanji, because they are more like concepts than words.

The kanji 水 can be used in a variety of ways, including by itself, but also within longer compounds.

Does that help some?

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Some but then why do the combined kanji like 中水 use the kanji reading instead of vocab like why is it ちゅうすい instead of なかみず

There’s not really any such thing as a lone “kanji reading” the same way that there is a “vocab reading.” Most of the time there are multiple kanji readings, and sometimes there are many.

What WaniKani calls the kanji reading is really “(among the possible readings that exist) the one reading for this kanji that we taught you in the lesson so that you don’t get overwhelmed with too much information at one time.”

みず and すい are both valid “kanji readings” in the sense that they are both readings for the kanji 水. They just happen to teach only one reading when you learn a kanji.

The reason that すい is used in 水中 is because すいちゅう is the word that exists in the language. みずなか is plausible, and could have existed, but does not, for the same reason that “underwater” exists in English and “netherhydro” doesn’t.

(As an aside, みずなか does exist as a reading for the surname 水中, coming in at about #25,500 in last name frequency in Japan)

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Tofugu has a nice article on this. Basically it’s common to smash two on’yomi together to make a compound word, and 水中(すいちゅう) is there to demonstrate how it’s done. Wanikani doesn’t have a great system for asking for multiple readings at once, so they tend to try to pick the most helpful reading for the kanji for now, and if you need the other reading you learn it later in other vocab.

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Hey, it’s my first comment!

I have a feature request but didn’t want to just make a new post for it in case that’s against etiquette. Is there a good place to post them?

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Welcome, welcome! :durtle_hello:

If you want someone to whip up a script for you, you can make a request in this thread: What do you want now? (Request extensions here)

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