# Need some help with 未 vs 末 **URL:** \ **Category:** Kanji\ **Created:** [July 7, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710 "2019-07-07T00:57:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Obelus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/obelus/32/256548_2.png) [@Obelus](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Obelus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/1 "2019-07-07T00:57:59Z")
Almost every time I get either these two kanji/radicals/vocab my brain explodes. Does anyone have any tips for differentiating them? I know that one has a longer top but I can never remember which one, and to make it worse apparently, as kanji, they are both made of the Airplane radical even though one is nearly identical to the husband radical, whyyyyy? ---
**Author:** ![seanblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/seanblue/32/579844_2.png) [@seanblue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/seanblue)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/2 "2019-07-07T01:14:52Z")
I don’t have any mnemonics to help, or anything like that. But each is a pretty strong phonetic component, so if you can remember related kanji that can help too. み: - 未 - 味 - 魅 まつ - 末 - 抹 * * * It also helps to think in terms of words. If you know the word 未来 (みらい) you can remember that 未 is み. And if you know the word 週末 (しゅうまつ) you can remember that 末 is まつ. ---
**Author:** ![zhoshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/zhoshi/32/298324_2.png) [@zhoshi](https://community.wanikani.com/u/zhoshi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/3 "2019-07-07T01:26:34Z")
The way I remember it is 末 has the long bit at the top or “end” and the 未 kanji’s long bit isn’t at the end yet (not yet). It’s a bit silly but it works for me. ---
**Author:** ![VictorLino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/victorlino/32/217007_2.png) [@VictorLino](https://community.wanikani.com/u/VictorLino)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/4 "2019-07-07T01:28:56Z")
![images](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/4/4/a/44a1ae043e860f545bb06badc7581547099b938c.png) Same method as @zhoshi 😄, worked well for me ---
**Author:** ![calabacitas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/calabacitas/32/299102_2.png) [@calabacitas](https://community.wanikani.com/u/calabacitas)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/5 "2019-07-07T01:40:35Z")
This is so helpful! I was using the same method as @zhoshi , but I hadn’t made the connection with 本 as well. ---
**Author:** ![Frankie3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/frankie3/32/4291_2.png) [@Frankie3](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Frankie3)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/6 "2019-07-07T01:56:39Z")
You should try writing each kanji 5-10 times and create your own mnemonic for them, then say it as your write them. Here is an example from remembering the kanji for comparing them, but I suggest making your own as they will stick better if you create them and then write it. ![%E6%9C%ABvs%E6%9C%AA](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/7/0/a/70a642f8e3aca39c99cc221273977e98128d407c.png) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/6/2/a/62a8b0f4c59ff2c5b6651ffcf43531480b3e5297.png) [@system](https://community.wanikani.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/need-some-help-with-%E6%9C%AA-vs-%E6%9C%AB/37710/7 "2020-07-06T02:05:22Z")
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