Mother 2 / Earthbound (Game Club) / Starting roughly end of April

Welcome to the Mother 2 Club!

This club is part of the :video_game: Game Club

Description :scroll:

Time to beat: 30 hours
Availability: Nintendo Switch Online (download the JP app through a Japanese account), Super Famicom
Walkthrough: English| Japanese

A turn-based JRPG and sequel to then-Japan-only Earthbound Beginnings (1989) in which Ness, a young boy living in a land based on the USA, leaves home to go on an adventure through strange locations, get to know quirky characters and defeat an unknowable alien threat called Giygas while facing up to the realities of growing up and becoming familiar with the real world.

Schedule :hourglass_not_done:

Week Date
Week 1 Date TBD

How to Join :speech_balloon:

  • Get yourself a copy of the game
  • Answer the poll below
  • Set this and each weekly thread to ā€œwatchingā€ for updates
  • Cover any spoilers in spoiler tags through blur or the drop-down box

Participation :admission_tickets:

Will you be joining us?

  • Yes
  • Maybe
  • No
  • I’m playing after the club has ended
0 voters

How will you be playing along?

  • In Japanese
  • In English (or other)
  • Watching a Playthrough
0 voters

Set this thread to ā€œWatchingā€ to get updates!

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Kept it pretty much to the template (thanks again for that!). Excited to do this. Thoughts on my mind right now:

I’ve been checking video playthroughs for rough ideas of how long sections will be to mixed results. It’s a shame most in Japanese that I can find are streams and tend to have somewhat arbitrary cutoffs. Found some that break at somewhat more reasonable points between videos, but I still don’t think they necessarily always quite work as stopping points for us (with actual save point access and whatnot). I think what I’m going to have to do is refer to videos/guides, whichever to get a broad idea (reminder) of how things are segmented, play for myself sometime before it’s time to post the thread, and use some of my own judgment in splitting segments. In theory the guides for example I posted – one has about 50 sections, the other just under 25. In that way in theory I might be able to do two from the first or one from the second per week and have it basically nicely paced for a game that howlongtobeat says is ~30 hours long… but I just can’t blindly trust that sections are going to be evenly paced in real world time. One of the video series I was looking at with overall decent stopping points seems to take him only about 15 hours surprisingly; I haven’t had the time to really watch to see if he’s editing things out or just a very fast player.

So we might have a very rough guess at the total club length but I think I might not be able to give a truly specific schedule until we get a good ways into the game and I can see how segments have worked out relative to how they are presenting in guides / online playthroughs. It’s gonna require some work and especially consistency on my part to get things ready in time, but I think it’ll be manageable barring no big disruptive events on my side. I have sort of a general feeling for what length weeks people tend to be ok with from the several game clubs I’ve been in up to now, I think.

I might switch to starting around Friday like some clubs do here rather than Mondays because the week days are much more predictable for me than weekends and I think it’ll make me more consistent, but that’s a small thing.

I have a few little outside media pieces I’m excited to share; this won’t be Final Fantasy club level of knowledge and prep but the players guides (don’t go spoil it!) are really fun supplemental material.

Happy you all decided to go with my choice again; I really hope people like this game. My memories are hazy because it’s been several years but, as I said when nominating it, I hold it as one of my favorite games ever (feel free to complain if you have issues with it though too lol, I won’t take it personally).

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I’m so far behind on the FF2 club that I’m fairly certain they just started FF3.

I have a ton of games I’ve started and haven’t finished.

The last time I re-played Earthbound (on Wii U), I didn’t finish it (but got pretty far).

I’ve been wanting to re-play it, and have considered playing it in Japanese.

I don’t think of this often, but I did think about it again less than a week ago.

Got tips on how to increase the number of hours in my day?

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Time to break my self-pledge to not join more weekly game clubs. I was planning to break it once y’all at the final fantasy club got to FF4 anyway.

I played and enjoyed the English version, Earthbound, when I was a kid but never got around to finishing for some reason. Memory too fuzzy. Big thanks @Daisoujou for proposing and running the club, I’m really looking forward to getting started :slight_smile:

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They say humans need 7-8 hours of sleep a night, but are we sure about that? Maybe if you got rid of that you could fit a new game club in…

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Sure did, week 2 coming up soon. I could really use more hours as well :sob:

Like fuzzy pickles? Seems that’s not the phrase in Japanese, too bad, haha.

Will be glad to have you :slightly_smiling_face:

I’ve always been so annoyed that I know I’m so clearly a full 8 hours kind of person. If I dip lower, even 7, I feel so noticeably worse. Jealous of anyone on the lower end of that spectrum.

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Given that this is a game of a certain vintage, I thought it would probably be a good idea to check the manual to see if there’s anything I need to know ahead of time because it’s probably best not to count on the game itself to teach the mechanics (that’s what manuals were for)

Luckily there’s a scan on archive.org

The manual is pretty charming overall, well worth a read I think

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Thanks for sharing! The big unique thing is the scrolling health – basically when you take a big hit your health doesn’t drop all at once but sort of ticks down, and you can interrupt that by finishing the fight sooner. I think healing early should intercept and help as well, but the manual only mentions finishing the fight and it’s possible I’ll end up mixing together my memories of Mother 3 systems. I’ll see when I get my hands back on this game. I remember feeling like it was more important in Mother 3 than here overall.

I don’t recall too much being super unusual otherwise, though you do need to know what certain party members want to do.

The game does have one of those basic systems for initiating fights where there’s neutral for meeting enemies face on, and advantage for touching them in the back with disadvantage if they contact your back. People will probably be happy to learn this is one of the earliest instances (maybe the first? I assume that’s unlikely but I have no idea who would’ve done it earlier) of monsters sufficiently weaker than you all running away and if you chase them down you instantly defeat them without a fight.

By the way, we’ll see if it’s after a break or something, but we simply have to do Mother 3 sometime after this too :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’d certainly be interested, though I’d also love to try out Mother 1 too

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I’d like to play Mother 1 as well, and already intended to someday myself. Definitely wouldn’t say no to having company. Despite my more recent desire to want to see series in order all the time, I’ve already played 2 and 3 so no going back and I figured I had to jump to 2 for wider appeal and because it’ll likely do a much nicer job really selling people on the joy of this series. We’ll work that out later :saluting_face:

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Ah I’m very excited this game won the poll! I have started it before, but I don’t think I ever even got past Onett haha. But! I have played Mother 3 (the fan translation) and I LOVE Mother 3 :heart_hands::heart_hands: I know I will probably love Mother 2 as well, I just haven’t done the deed of actually playing it haha. So thank you @Daisoujou !!

Thank you also for starting on the task of how to sort out the stopping points :sweat_smile:

Game Difficulty

I think that sounds very reasonable!! Maybe I’m in the minority since I haven’t played a ton of RPGs, but I was thinking about game difficulty as well. It’ll probably be totally different from ćƒœć‚Æ (obviously), and that might also affect the schedule/how much we can do in a week. So I think not worrying about nailing down the schedule 1000% makes sense :)) Maybe we would have a feel for and an opinion on pacing after the first few weeks!

I remember after my brother beat Mother 2 (out of everyone I know he’s the most gamer and is my personal search engine for video game topics haha) he loved the game, but suggested I not feel bad using/needing a guide in some spots. So I feel like this will be a good one to do in a club where we can help each other out!! :smiling_face:

Hehehe

WAHHH, yes please!! I would love to replay it, and experience it with the original Japanese!!
I would also be interested in Mother 1 :eyes:

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Just chiming in with another vote for also playing Mother 1 and 3 in future!

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Edit: I’m tired now and only after posting expecting you to know what I meant about later game struggles I realized you said you didn’t play far into this game. Ignore me lol

I’ll just say the game definitely had parts that felt to me like significant difficulty spikes here and there, and as I remember it one is pretty early so that scares me a little. All the same I think stocking up on certain items smoothed it out so hopefully I can help people get through.

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This game has what my nostalgia says is the best (English) strategy guide ever, from Nintendo.

[edit: the link that used to be here was stolen by Frank]

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I mean I’m half kidding; it’s your life, but I was definitely planning to share bits from it when they’re relevant which will be safest for anyone not wanting to walk into spoilers :slightly_smiling_face:

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I completely missed that part (but in my defense…I have no defense).

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Really tempted to follow along with this by reading through Legend of Localization’s book about Earthbound, shipping would be a bit pricey but… Maybe as an early birthday present… Umm

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I’m visiting my mother for Easter, sadly have no room for my turntable and record collection in my tiny apartment. Just wanted to share a photo of one I got years ago:

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Hi ya’ll nice to meet the club, I’m just finding about game clubs on here now and am pleasantly surprised! I loved Mother 3 so I’m excited to get into Mother 2, it sounds like a lot of fun

Speaking of Legends of Localization I read the Undertale one and thought it was really well done so I’m probably going to end up wanting the Earthbound one after we’re done lol

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I’m afraid I can’t say no to this… I have started this game several times already, but never finished. Will this be the time?

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