Level 60, 2 years later

Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I’ve used Wanikani much and it’s great to see how active everything is here. I got to level 60 about two years ago and I’ve had some time to reflect on my experiences with this program.

I really loved the time I spent learning on Wanikani, and honestly nothing else has really come close to it in my journey. I started WK in summer 2021, about a month after I started studying the language. I kept up with lessons and did reviews every day until I hit level 60, and it gave me a huge advantage in my classes over other students (at least in reading). I kept at about 20 lessons per day, until some life events happened and I slowed down around level 22 (& the infamous legalese wall). I just graduated with an unrelated degree, and Japanese has definitely been on the back burner for a while. I still read often, but slowly, and I mainly use Anki for mining vocabulary.

Wanikani was genuinely fun and rewarding, and I always felt like I was making real progress every day. I miss using it, but I feel like I’m kind of trapped now at level 60, with 2000 reviews for words I likely haven’t seen in years. I would love to revisit earlier levels, but I know that I can’t be as consistent as I was on my first round through. If I reset, I worry that I’d permanently lock myself out of future content forever. But there’s also no way to replicate the structured experience of leveling through WK. I know that the best advice is to abandon the walled garden of WK and engage with native content, but after all this time, I want to be able to utilize this amazing resource without a full reset and the massive commitment it requires. I have access to all these cards, but no real way to review them unless I reset or jump into a deck of 7000 burned items with no structure.

Before the website overhaul a few years back, I’d use user scripts to provide this, but I didn’t really need it at the time as I was still working through levels. It was just for extra fun, because I really enjoyed using Wanikani. Plus, the script I used didn’t provide immediate access to things like example sentences or the radicals used, which were very useful to have in the actual program.

I guess I want to know whether there are any plans to give users a way to reexperience the content in a more meaningful way at some point in the future. I would love the option to select a particular level (or range of levels) and review each item within it. I don’t want the full SRS experience again, I just want to refresh my memory and fill in gaps. Or, I would even take the opportunity to start again at a low level if doing so didn’t mean permanently losing my progress. I was also hopeful at some point that unique decks could be created, either officially or by fans, that would cover the vocab and kanji needed to read through particular books or manga without mining and using Anki. I just really love Wanikani and find it much more engaging than other apps. Nothing else replicates the typing experience or the core focus on kanji. Or the weird vibes.

Like I said, I’ve been away for a while (and seriously benefitting from the time I spent on this amazing website), so maybe I’m just not aware of recent changes that would solve my problems. Regardless, I’ll always recommend Wanikani to everyone interested in learning Japanese because it made the thing that everyone fears, kanji memorization, into the most fun I’ve ever had learning something new. I just can’t quit my durtles.

Thank you to everyone on the Wanikani team and all the people who make this such a great community!

Firstly well done on finishing WK and thank you for sharing your reflections! I thought a lot about your situation just now. I don’t know of any solution that would give you exactly what you’re looking for, but I understand completely. Wanikani is designed to be finished, but there’s not much else out there that is so much fun, and has so much structure. It’s really motivating to keep chasing the next level up! I can’t believe after a year I’m still so excited to do reviews and learn new items every day, something that Anki wasn’t able to do for me.

I wonder if you’ve considered starting some other program. I only know NativShark well. I know there are some other very serious “comprehensive” courses too but I haven’t tried them.

The reason I mention NativShark is twofold.

Firstly, it goes through every kanji found in WK and more. Sure, their mnemonics are weird, and the radical names are quite different and unfamiliar. But kanji are kanji and vocab is vocab. So it will give you that reassurance of revising all the kanji you know you’ve forgotten, and in a new context too. And NativShark excels at teaching actual real Japanese (as spoken and written in real life and unlike what is in every textbook lol). They really nailed that… I feel like finally I found a way to learn the Japanese you’d want to learn to enjoy life and have fun with your Japanese spouse/friends/kids/reading material/travel etc…

Secondly it gives exactly that structure that WK gives and it’s equally enjoyable getting to the next lesson and the next lesson and the next unit and milestone and phase. It has an SRS built in, and you have to do reviews each day, but the way it’s designed you don’t tick anything right or wrong. I mark everything as correct and keep going - which is what they advise also. It’s hard to explain why, but trust me, you’ll understand if you try it. Because of this it’s not a burden like anki and due to marking all as correct there are no leeches. It’s just up up up. I love it and I always have a feeling of progression.

It’s possible that the other comprehensive programs give that feeling too. I hope you find what you’re looking for either in Wanikani or elsewhere, and the forums are always here!

Thanks again for sharing :slight_smile:

If it were me, I’d just pick away at the 2000 review pile I think. If you get them wrong then they get bumped down to guru or apprentice anyway, and you don’t have to reset lol

Or else I’d review burned items every day and occasionally unburn something that I feel like I really need to know

But also congrats on level 60!!!

I’m far from your situation, so probably bad advice, but I currently use kamesame.com to revisit burned things, and it flips things around so you work on production. The interface is not too pretty, but once I started to use it, my dislike slowly faded and it’s not a problem. It also lets you do kanji that isn’t in WK. So you can do all the Joyo that aren’t in WK.

Thanks for this detailed comment, somehow I’d never heard of Nativshark but it does seem like something I would enjoy using. I’ve been considering starting Bunpro too, and this looks like a comparable resource. I feel like learning a new radicals system for kanji I’m already familiar with would be my biggest issue, but any other program would have the same requirement unless it used actual radicals. I’ll look more into this, thanks again!

Thank you! This might be the only way I can continue with Wanikani. It’s too bad that this makes the SRS system practically invisible, but at least I can still engage with the content.

Do you really want to be chasing these reviews at level 60? It will take dozens of hours. At level 60, wouldn’t it make sense to start reading and listening? Maybe review just Kanji? Words will come with practice.

I don’t know your level. Maybe it is hard to read / listen /write / speak after a break yet, in my humble opinion that is why it needs to be done. Have you tried Satori read? as for Speaking - preply? - Preply has some relatively inexpensive native speakers to talk to.

I hope it helps
Have fun in your journey!