Kaitenji, an upcoming SRS japanese learning tool

Japanese Language Resources
#21

Looks like the author of kaitenji actual heard of all the complains for WaniKani on here and on r/learnjapanese. I always believe competition can bring the best out of each competitor and it mostly ends up benefiting the users. There are so many things Tofugu could do to make WaniKani better, but they haven’t and probably won’t in the near future. We have to end up relying on scripts for most of that. The only upgrade we’ve seen in years is them ditching their own forum software for another company’s forum software. Aside of fixing the content, not much has changed since the added 10 levels in July 2015.

Honestly, I’m surprised we didn’t see “kaitenji” happening years ago. Hopefully the author can deliver on the promised features.

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#22

I also think competition is good, and I don’t think the team mind people discussing other products at all. But I don’t think they want people creating accounts simply to use their forum to advertise their products here.

But, but… the secrets!

I actually actively don’t want the changes asked for in about 90% of the complaints :see_no_evil:

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#23

WK has an impressive collection of userscripts too

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#24

It’s just as beginner-unfriendly. :slight_smile:

After being asked for a bunch of “On’yomi”, it suddenly switched to “reading”.

“Enter the reading for: 山”
さん

whelp
さん (The Correct Answer is: やま)

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#25

I wouldn’t call that user unfriendly. It first tests kanji (and therefore species which reading it is asking for) and then vocabulary (山)

#26

I suppose I’ll elaborate then. The distinction (WaniKani’s purple vs magenta, and Kaitenji’s “On’yomi” vs “reading”) are too subtle for first time users.

Logically, the system isn’t flawed. However, remember that this is the first time user experience. It’s a common complaint here that solo kanji as vocabulary get confused. This is a similar scenario, where I didn’t recognize that I was being tested on a single-kanji vocab item, rather than a kanji.

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#27

renshuu.org is kinda that already

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#28

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God da○○ it!

#29

It’s just showing an example, I doubt the real thing would be that simple.

#30

I wonder if this will affect EtoEto’s release date…

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#31

I feel stalked. I looked at the website, checked out their Twitter, then a few minutes later, they followed me. :o

But in all seriousness, it looks interesting. Not sure if I’ll jump on it, but I’m curious to see how things will go.

#32

That website literally says nothing.

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#33

Yeah, they haven’t currently demonstrated anything other than the fact that they can run the WK-style input checker with some basic things. They have a lot of work to do to implement everything they’re promising. Promising it is easier than delivering it.

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#34

Why?

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#35

Competition will frequently cause development timelines to be pushed forward. Being first to market is very important.

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#36

Shh, don’t tell anyone but… :shushing_face:

The usual way of SRSing grammar doesn’t work

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#37

oho :smiley:

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#38

After looking at kaitenji it seems to me that it has the potential to really compete for new Japanese learners’ money. It may inspire Tofugu to double their efforts and get EtoEto released sooner. As much as kaitenji’s features look decent it will get blown out of the water by WK and EtoEto combined if EtoEto is as good as I suspect it will be.

#39

But their page doesn’t show anything at all… or am I wrong? Is there a structured program out already?

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#40

If you are talking about EtoEto, their trello board hasn’t updated for more than a year, so…

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