My apologies for the delay. I’ve added you on Discord. Send me proof of purchase and I’ll send you a link to the deck .
It’s very fair. Currently, the Jalup store is still selling the subscription at full price with zero mention that it will be shut down in the fall, or that they are migrating to Nihongo that doesn’t have Android app, or that you have to spend some effort with your Anki deck.
If you run Jalup and know that your app is going to be shut down, you give your users a long warning (at least 1 year), and then either stop selling your subscription or give new subscribers steep discount, something like 75%. How would you feel if you buy Jalup subscription on October 20, then Jalup is shut down on October 21?
Yeah, at this point it’s just scummy to milk customers without mentioning it. Although they had some interesting blog posts, I always found their marketing very off-putting, anyway…
I’d like to ask everyone to keep the conversation on topic from here on, which is informing people that Jalup is going to be unavailable in the future and sharing related information such as communicating ways to keep your SRS progress.
Some people seem to feel rather strongly about Jalup, and you are entitled to your opinion, but at this point, in here, it really doesn’t matter. Everyone that is going to read this will already be fully informed that Jalup is going to shut down.
Everything you’re doing by bringing up heated discussions like calling Jalup a scam is upsetting the people that genuinely liked the product. Let’s be a little considerate.
Thank you
I won’t comment on the UX concerns of having multiple kanji learning methods side-by-side, particularly as I must admit I’m biased towards preservation of jalup, but I can speak to my experience with different methods learning kanji.
I actually have used Kanji Kingdom, RTK (specifically the now orphaned Recognition RTK, previously of MIA), and the WK/Nihongo approach simultaneously, and found that while it wasn’t necessarily efficient to use all at once, they all complemented each other. Learning kanji and vocab together most closely represents that actual linguistic task that needs to be learned, but RTK teaches the orthographic structure of kanji, and also improves isolated recall, which make the acquisition of challenging kanji in vocab easier. Ironically, I think RTK is actually relatively poor for learning kanji by meaning (it doesn’t draw on the language-as-used enough), and the original RTK forewent frequency ordering entirely (RRTK improved on this). Kanji Kingdom both leans more heavily into frequency ordering without compromising the benefits of simplicity ordering, and by necessity of the chain method connects kanji meanings much more closely to vocab; I think Kanji Kingdom is what RTK should be, and while I got benefit from RTK (mostly because I valued the difficulty of the 1:1 kanji to keyword recall), if somebody asked me how I recommended they go about kanji study, it would be to combine Kanji Kingdom with cards based on kanji found in immersion vocabulary.
All of this is to say, while I’m not sure what the best future of Kanji Kingdom might be, I think you’d be making a mistake to dismiss it entirely in favor of vocab-based kanji study.
Thanks, that’s super useful info. Sounds like I may be in a good position to support your recommended approach too, so that’s great. I’m going to save this comment and look at it again when I get to work pulling Kanji Kingdom to Nihongo.
The ability to transfer User Notes would be a huge help! I add a lot of additional sentences to User Notes field and being able to import my User Notes from Jalup app to Nihongo easily, would be the number 1 feature for me. Please make that happen if possible
The ability to transfer User Notes would be a huge help! I add a lot of additional sentences to User Notes field and being able to import my User Notes from Jalup app to Nihongo easily, would be the number 1 feature for me. Please make that happen if possible
P.s. I hope someone can also make it possible to transfer User Notes to Anki. Since its CSV format should it not be fairly easy?
Yes, that makes sense! I will definitely try to include that.
V1 of my new “Nihongo Lessons” app with Jalup content is launching December 1st. You can pre-order now so it’ll automatically download when it comes out.
Hope you guys like where I’m going with it. More work to do, and keep the feedback coming.
Sorry to be a little off topic, but could you link me anything about making Anki look as pretty as yours does in that screenshot? I’d like to make the jump over to it but the ugly default interface has been the biggest obstacle so far.
To get the same styling I have for my cards you have to go to
- Tools → Manage Note Types
- Select the Jalup note type and select “Fields”
- change the names to match with mine as shown below (without the 1:, 2:, …)
- Go back the the manage note types window
- select the Jalup note type and select “cards”
- Copy Paste the below code for Front, Back and Styling
Field Names
1: Sentence_plain
2: Word_plain
3: Notes
4: Audio
5: Reading
Front Template
<div class=sentencebg>
{{Sentence_plain}}
</div>
Back Template
<div class=sentencebg>
{{furigana:Reading}}
<hr>
{{Word_plain}}
<br>
{{Audio}}
</div>
{{#Notes}}
<br><br><div class=dictionary>メモ</div><div class=definition>{{Notes}}</div>
{{/Notes}}
Styling
@font-face {
font-family: "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3";
src: url("_hirakakyprow3.otf");
}
.card{
font-family: "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3";
font-size: 20px;
text-align: center;
color: black;
background-color: white;
}
.sentencebg{
font-family: "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3";
font-size: 30px;
text-align: center;
color: #fff;
background-color: #ad1833;
border-radius: 7px;
padding: 15px;
}
.dictionary{
font-family: "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3";
font-size: 20px;
text-align: center;
color: #fff;
border-radius: 10px 10px 0px 0px;
background-color: #ad1833;
}
.definition {
position: relative;
top: -3px;
background-color: #ededed;
padding: 15px;
padding-bottom: 15px;
padding-left: 30px;
padding-right: 30px;
border-radius: 0px 0px 10px 10px;
font-size: 20px;
text-align: left;
color: black;
}
You can change the field names to whatever you want afterwards, they should just match before you paste in my styling. Afterwards Anki will adjust the code of the styling automatically if you change the names.
As for general guides on styling, I sadly don’t know any without going onto a google search myself.
Thank you so much! So helpful!
Aaaaaand Nihongo Lessons is live!
Thanks a bunch for all your feedback. I managed to get some but not all of your requests into V1, but I’ll be continuing to improve the app so keep the feedback coming, and I’ll try to get to it soon. The big one I didn’t get to that I know there were multiple requests for were importing your flashcard notes – rest assured, that’s my top priority for my next update.
Feel free to reach out to me at chris@nihongo-app.com if you have more feedback. Thanks!
It would be nice if it is formatted for the iPad.
Yeah, definitely. It’s phone-only for now just because I wanted to get it out the door and focus on polishing a single user experience, but I definitely plan on adding iPad support soon.
I don’t suppose your app site could provide clarification on the two discounted packages?
There are two discounts available – a 50% discount for people that have purchased the content previously through the old iOS Jalup App, Anki decks, or the Android app. And a 15% discount for subscribers to Nihongo Pro.
I’m planning on adding a pricing section the website soon.