Intermediate Japanese Book Club (Currently reading: コーヒが冷めないうちに)

ありがとうございました!

The gif made me laugh, too. You’re so sparkly right now. : D

Thanks, it looks great!

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My pleasure :blush: Glad the sister club is up and running! I’m tempted to participate in both, if I have the time~

Now that club situation is sorted out and we decided to keep Autumn Prison, should we officially set the start date for October 22nd? I know that might be kinda long for people not participating in No. 6, but it also sounds like some folks will need time for the book to arrive, too

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I’ve been looking for the book in Ikebukuro, but it was sold out everywhere? Bad luck. Will try again in Sendai.

I’m sure my skill level isnt high enough to be able to read this, but in a month, who knows. What is the recommended WaniKani level to be at to be able to reasonable join in here? I looked through the post and didnt specifically notice any skill level other than beginner. I know around 20 is books, but not sure if this is a lower skill level than that. Thanks!

This is the Intermediate/Advanced Japanese Book club :slight_smile: If you feel like starting with something easier, join us in the Japanese Book Club for beginners :slight_smile:

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For me, I previously voted for Oct 22. Even though I’m not reading No. 6… it’s intentional so I have more time to work on Grammar. (Finally sat down to review some today!)

Also, my book is expected to arrive in the same window as Caracal’s… as long as there isn’t any kind of problem at customs.

(I’m hoping to finish Genki I at least, before we begin… that way I don’t have to ask the most basic of questions…)

We chose this date so everyone who was reading could have a break, too. I say we keep it, and go ahead with Oct. 22 as planned.

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Sounds good to me, though of course I’d say that since I’m running behind in my reading…but then again, starting on the 22nd only leaves about a week between the end of NO.6 reading/discussion and the start of Autumn Prison, right? And it could take a little while to set up the next discussion/reading rate/etc. (though not very long this time around, it seems). So October 22 seems perfectly reasonable in that regard, besides giving plenty of time for shipping as you mentioned.

@sadfghjkl One thing to keep in mind is your general Japanese skill. Obviously one’s ability to read kanji is important with reading books in this club and the beginner’s club, but if your general knowledge of vocabulary is low or even if your grammar skill is low, reading can be a pain in the behind. For this reason giving a recommended WaniKani level isn’t really helpful if one’s general Japanese skill is low. In my own case, even after starting WaniKani for a while I could recognize the reading of words, but didn’t actually know what they meant; I could read sentences, but due to my limitations in my grammar skills, I couldn’t properly process the meaning very easily. Now after really studying hard and with a lot of practice, I’ve improved; WaniKani was instrumental with making reading easier, but it wasn’t the end-all-be-all. I’m sure probably know this, I’m just mentioning this because it was brought up and you’re probably not the first one who had this come to mind.

TLDR; recommended WK level isn’t as helpful as grammar and vocabulary knowledge to determine reading skill level.

@jprspereira Be sure to convey this to those joining the beginner level Japanese Book Club because I’m sure there will be a lot of gungho member who will join not really considering the kind of grammar or vocabulary they will come across in manga or even in children’s books. Although the bar may be lowered, it may still be unreasonably higher than some can reach if they are really new to studying Japanese.

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Though we haven’t officially started Autumn Prison yet, for those who consider themselves not so fast readers (e.g., myself), it’s really helpful to start reading if you already have the book. That way once things get started, you won’t find yourself being left behind or having to rush to finish by the discussion deadline. Even though I replied directly to you @Snowflying, this comment is to anyone who is feeling antsy about starting. The only caveat is that it would be nice to refrain from posing questions until reading has officially started and making comments until discussion for that part of the book.

@AnimeCanuck

Just in case you check the forums before you next check your email – check your email! Sent a link so you can check out/set up delivery and shipping alert options yourself. Sometimes deliveries actually come early, so you’ll want to get the details figured out sooner than later.

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Thanks! Will do.

I appreciate the feedback. I actually lived in japan for years, so my vocab/grammar/etc are actually decent, I have just never spent much time learning Kanji until this point. Just not sure when to look into these reading clubs. No point in picking up a book I literally can’t read. It’s not so much about understanding whats being said for me, just being able to read it.

I just got 秋の牢獄 in the mail. Excited and scared to start reading!

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I’m going to try and get 秋の牢獄 digitally some time this week. Bought a Japanese kindle a little while ago, but didn’t have too much luck reading manga on it (the text is too small, and zooming is a pain!). It’ll be nice to get some use out of it at least!

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Ah yeah, giving everyone time to read ahead is another good consideration :relaxed: I guess we can officially say it’s okay to read ahead, but not to post about it yet? I feel bad telling people not to ask any questions that will inevitably pop up when people start reading but, I really think it’s best if we wait until the book officially starts and the discussion thread is set up. Perhaps people who read ahead should just write questions/comments down and save them for later?

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@AnimeCanuck

Sorry to @ you so much, but FYI - barring any customs holdups, your book is scheduled to arrive by the end of the day tomorrow (mine too!). I just sent you the waybill number (and a corrected link), as I think I forgot to send it earlier.

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Oh! That’s even sooner! Cool!

I’m only saying this because I did the same with No. 6. My job makes it very difficult to read every day which makes falling behind a real concern for me. People should know their own abilities, if by giving themselves a head start would keep them afloat and able to participate, I’m all for that. Although it’s a shame that people who start early cannot ask questions about the book, your suggestion of writing down anything that comes up is a great idea to start. Besides, it’s not really good to get hung up on a couple of sentences anyway. Part of reading is creating meaning when it seems unclear; we do it all the time in our native languages, Japanese shouldn’t be any more different.

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I agree, it really wouldn’t be fair if we told people not to read ahead and they ended up falling behind because they don’t have as much free time to read as everyone else. I was just concerned about the opposite happening, and people who hadn’t started reading/didn’t have the book yet would get left behind because a small group had already started and wanted to start the discussion early. As long as we can avoid that though, then I have no objections :relaxed:

I’ll leave a little note in the OP. Also I guess we’ll go ahead and make the start date official until further notice~

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