If i change the max no. of lessons per session to 4 how many years will it take?

Haven’t changed any other settings. Wondering if I do the Reviews daily & 4 lessons max daily how long will it take to reach level 60?

And how come I read about people here skipping vocab to focus on radicals/kanji to level up? How can you skip anything? Thought you just go along & that’s how you progress? :face_with_monocle:


I don’t know, it is all dependent on when you do your reviews after they become available. 4 lessons max daily for Radicals, Kanji and Vocab is pretty slow given that each level has about an average of 150 R+K+V in total.

People skip vocab to focus on radicals/kanji using the Reorder script.

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There are reorder scripts, which will let you ignore vocab completely, which is a terrible idea, imo.
Its nearly impossible to say how long WK will take you, regardless of how many lessons, etc. Accuracy plays the biggest role. If language learning comes easy to you, you can blow through WK in little over a year. If you suck at it like I do, you’ll only reach level 50 some 5 years in.


There are 8896 items in Wanikani. At a rate of 4 lessons per day you need 2224 day to study them all. This is 6.1 years, This doesn’t account for the time you need to level up. There may be idle days where you can’t do lessons because the items are all locked.


whoa longer than a relationship :joy:

if i leave all the settings to the Default ones and don’t wake up in the middle of the night to do reviews but do Reviews/Lessons daily + keep a quiz average of 90% how many years would that be approx.?

think i’ll take 10 years ha.

skipping vocab seems silly, what learning benefit does it bring? why are people doing it?

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The question is imprecise. I am not sure I will answer it correctly.

The default is a batch of 5 lessons but there is no limit on the number of batch per day.

I assume you do only one batch per day. With an accuracy 90% I suppose there will be no idle time with no lessons. 8896 items at a rate of 5 per day is 1779 days or 4,9 years.

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You get level 60 faster, with less ‘work’. You may learn less, and have lower retention, but “you did it”. Feels so good to get that 60.

There are words that are in vocab that aren’t “just a kanji”. Sure, many vocabs can be implied like 三人 is just three people but things like Patience is 辛抱 which you might see as just a “spicy hug” because that’s the kanji but it means patience. Same thing with 人参. You’ll just see it as person and participate and be confused but it means carrot.


but if you don’t learn much isn’t it a waste of time?


Agreed. But, some people look at WK as purely a tool for learning kanji, so vocab is pointless. (although the point of the vocab on WK is to reinforce the kanji you’re learning (and learn oddball pronunciations)). So skipping vocab is actually hurting your kanji learning.
Its just human nature to want that gratification as past as possible. So, even though it will hurt you to skip the vocab, it ‘feels good’, and some people fall into that trap.

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At four items a day this isn’t likely to happen (days with no lessons).


If you are going to do this, I suggest waiting until you reach the Levels were the radicals are less than 10.

why does it matter if the radicals are less than 10? not familiar with the system as i just started level 2

Memory doesn’t reside in just one spot in the brain. It lies in between connections all through the regions of your brain. That’s why knowing more about how a kanji is used and shown in context sentences (like shown in vocab) helps reinforce what kanji mean and are used in real life and makes you remember it longer.

It’s also why the mnemonics will be wacky sometimes and the descriptions will try to make you think of the mnemonics they present to you in wacky, sometimes comedic situations. It’s to get multiple parts of your brain to think about kanji to help it stick longer.

Unless you’re a savant, its very hard for people to remember “random” symbols like kanji for an extended period of time without giving them life through mnemonics. The brain isn’t wired to remember random symbols that it can’t connect to what it already knows.

I hope I’m not sounding like I’m coming down on you because I’m not. I’m just trying to explain that the vocab are there to help you solidify kanji by showing you how its used. Not to “waste your time”.


love science-y explanations! i’m pro vocab.


Because you don’t want to waste your time on Radicals, when it’s Kanji you’re here for. Radicals, most of the time, aren’t Kanji. They are just tools used for mnemonics.

By this, I’m assuming you mean 4 Items per day. It would be way too much time wasted on Radicals.

I use [Userscript] WaniKani Lesson Filter to do this.


I just thought limiting lessons might stop the burnout factor since doing too many lessons is why things get too much at level 20, yes?

I’m currently chugging along through level 17, my recall is probably a bit lower than average, and the heatmap tells me that over the last year I’ve done about 4 reviews per day? I think that’s what that’s telling me? Although I don’t know what the ‘10’ indicates as that doesn’t really seem to map to anything @Kumirei ?

But 403 sessions at 6 items per session is 2,418 items, which sounds about right. At 8896 items at the current pace that’s between 4 and 5 years to finish. Which is about what I was predicting in my head before doing the math.

Note that I’m kinda the opposite of the fast people in that I use the reorder script to give me vocabulary before kanji as I’ve found I have trouble cramming all 30+ kanji for a level before getting a very large dump of vocab. I find it easier, and faster, at my slow pace, to get through levels if I do the vocabulary as I guru each kanji. That makes the upcoming lesson queue look like this when I’m doing it right.

When I guru enough kanji to level up then I typically only have a handful of vocab left on that level.

4 days ago I hit my pandemic resolution of 365 straight days of lessons. Is there a badge for this? :slight_smile:

And still going. Yeah, I know, told you I’m slow…