How many hours should i learn a day?

Hi Guys

are two hours a day learning japanese enough?

How many hours do you learn during the day?

kind regards
Alex

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That’s up for you to decide, dude. If you only have ten minutes then that’s enough. If you have 24 hours, that’s enough.

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I’d say the answer to that question is “it depends”. Any amount is going to be better than not doing it at all, but it depends on what other things you want to do with your time and what your priorities look like.

I currently only do WaniKani, but I already have a pretty good foundation (passed N2 somehow). I guess this would sum up to maybe 1.5 hours, give or take, over the course of the day. That’s currently enough for me, because I can feel myself making progress, and I have other hobbies. I also don’t have any particular deadline I need to hit.

If you want to learn quicker, spending more time studying is of course going to help, but ultimately it’s up to you.

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It all depends on your goals and timelines for your goals. Do you have any goals defined and when you want to meet them?

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As many hours as you can possibly use to study.

2 hours a day sounds good enough if you study consistently. The Foreign Service Institute estimates 2200 hours average for an English speaker to learn Japanese, so that would take about 3 years to learn the language. Of course it’s just an estimative, but it’s a decent enough general idea of the effort it will take.

I have never calculated how many hours I use to study everyday, but it’s something around 1-2 hours total of WaniKani, 1 hour of bunpro (grammar, 3 new topics everyday), 1 hour of anki (mostly learning to handwrite kanji, then I review some mined vocab), at least 2 hours of reading light novels, and some more leisure extra time with native material (mostly manga, games, or youtube videos). Though I have a feeling I might need way, way more than 2200 hours to learn this language…

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Feels like I need 10,000 hours not 2,000 T^T

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I don’t know if these are the same figures, but the sources I have read are for full time studies for a diplomat learning the language

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It’s up to you to decide how much you want to study. But I will warn that sometimes longer sessions can be less efficient than a shorter study. Sure, you may learn more, but that’s more to forget. Food for thought.

Good luck on your studying!

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what novels would you recommend me to read as a beginner or should i read something else in Japanese maybe some mangas or child books for the beginning?

Graded Readers would be best to start out with as they will use simple grammar and will often be accompanied by pictures to help you in guessing the context of sentences for things you don’t know.

This thread is a good source for reading materials:

If you want to dip your toes into graded readers without having to pay the weight-in-gold price commanded by some companies this is a good source:

They won’t be as fancy as the professionally written and illustrated ones, but can give you a good start.

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I don’t know if these are the same figures, but the sources I have read are for full time studies for a diplomat learning the language

Indeed, sounds like it might be the case. I saw the information on wikibooks which didn’t specify anything, but it really feels like 2200 hours aren’t enough for the average person not studying full time. Too bad there aren’t many other reliable estimatives, I think.

what novels would you recommend me to read as a beginner or should i read something else in Japanese maybe some mangas or child books for the beginning?

The first story I read in Japanese was 銀河鉄道の夜 online while using a mouseover dictionary, so it was an easier first experience, though maybe the book itself might be a bit hard for a beginner. Honestly, anything that interests you that you can read online with a tool like yomichan is a good place to start.

My first physical light novel was キノの旅 which is very easy to read and I recommend to anyone starting (that has enough patience to look a lot of words up in a dictionary). I have also read うちの魔女しりませんか?, which has a very straightforward grammar, though it might have some uncommon vocab. I have heard 俺の妹がこんなに可愛いわけがない and この素晴らしい世界に祝福を are also easy to read but I haven’t attempted those yet.

Any manga for teens might be a good start as well, especially the ones with furigana. Slice of life and/or 4koma tend to be easier to read too (ご注文はうさぎですか, ゆるキャン, 苺ましまろ are some I have started reading that are easy enough).

I personally think children’s books are bad for practice, since most of them don’t even have kanji.

It might be better to follow athomasm’s suggestion first since my methods of heavily using a dictionary might not be the best/it can get pretty frustrating at first, though.

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it depends, usually i dont study for more than an hour a day or else my brain will feel fried and the next day it’ll be tough to study.

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Well, yes, that, but also, there’s such a thing as doing SRS systems too slow. It’s not a total time thing, though, it’s more of a frequency. If you’re supposed to do a review in 4 hours and you wait a week, you’re probably back at square one again.

2 hours a day should be plenty to keep up with WaniKani.

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It’s not about how much time you spend studying, it’s about how you spend your time studying. A good place to start: 1/3 of your time should be spent speaking and listening, 1/3 learning and practicing new grammar (written is probably best here), 1/3 on kanji and vocab. What often happens is that people studying the Japanese language become quite literate (can read and write), but hardly fluent (can speak and listen in real time). Nowadays literacy has been lumped in with fluency, but this isn’t quite true in practice. There are people on this planet that are absolutely fluent in their mother tongue but never learned to read or write (they are illiterate). We have somehow fallen into the habit of becoming the opposite. We spend a lot of time reading and writing / typing Japanese, but neglect to practice listening and speaking in real time, which is actually the foundation of learning any language properly.

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sudden realization of spent time struck hard, after looking at pure numbers.
for past ~4 months, wanikani asked to do 39k reviews.
that’s ~300 reviews/day. every review takes typically 10-20 seconds in average.

その…えっっと… calculating…
just doing WK reviews eats upto 2 hours. :cold_sweat:
not mentioning that it needs to get grammar, train stubborn ones by writing on paper, reading some webnovels for practice, listening some videos (well, videos are done during commuting to/from any remote destination).

life/work/sleep? what’s that, tasty?

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It should’ve been 40 hours a day

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@Oshin is perspiring imagining how @FlamySerpent does all this.

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How can you be so close and not say 42?

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I’m already level 42, I don’t need any more answers in my life

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