gangerM's (weekly) studylogs

Hello everyone!

This is a soft continuation from my previous post, which was a summary from the past 1.5 years, see My 1.5 year journey from start to finishing lvl 5 . I feel like I am experimenting quite a lot and I think it is nice to share this experience (and to be able to look at it back later). As always if you have questions or a nice post/hearth is very appreciated! May my posts motivate you to continue on your own pace and have fun learning! :smiley:

Experimenting with immersion

I did not really go in depth last time what I am doing with immersion, so this feels like a good opportunity to do that. I do not know if I am doing immersion “right”, but it is enjoyable and that accounts for a lot I think. I started doing 2 things regularly and one on/off;

  1. Playing games in Japanese, focused on games that have subs and dubs in Japanese.
  2. Watching anime with Japanese subs
  3. Reading The Tile World Chronicles with a translator next to me.

Playing games was quite a surreal experience for me, as I felt a nostalgic feeling about a game I never played. I started playing “OctoPath traveler”, and the nostalgic feeling was enjoying the game, but having no idea what is going on. While very fun I had quite some difficulties with the large amount of text and custom font, so I opted to set it aside for now and play “WitchSpring R” first, which seems to be easier in its dialog and less text heavy. The Kanji knowledge I so far have made it quite a puzzle, one of the nice moments recently was that I saw 作 character and realized I had to go to the crafting menu. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

In the last 1.5 weeks I rewatched “Vinland Saga” (both seasons), at the start I felt like I understood nothing, trying to grab one word every few sentences. Currently I feel like I sometimes get the “vibe” they go with, but not being able to explain exactly. I also feel like I am getting words more reliable, around 1 or 2 vocab every sentence. Some of these vocabs are audio only as well, because I am not at the stage where these are presented to me in WaniKani. The next anime I started is “Jojo’s Adventure”, which so far is a blast to watch! I also want to watch “Demon Slayer”, but Netflix does not show me the option for the Japanese dubs :neutral_face: I feel not confident enough yet to do it Japanese dub only, maybe as the next one!

The tile world chronicle I tried reading with a plugin and really search for every part in the sentence. While I suspect I learn a lot from it, and the story is nice, it feels like quite a drag to do. Progress in the story is slow, so I am not sure what I am going to do with this. I suspect this story is just a bit above my current level to process it at a decent speed. I think I’ll look more into graded readers, but the children stories I tried do not really motivate me too much unfortunately, there is likely a good middle somewhere. :slightly_smiling_face:

Trying to increase success rate by experimenting with KaniWani

As described in my previous post; I am an incredible slow learner. Even with 3 items a day I was by default around the 80% success rate, which means an item has a chance of progressing of like 64%, which is not a lot. Most failures are from Kanji → Reading, and this is where my experimenting with KaniWani comes into play. This seems to fill in my weak spot, going from Meaning → Reading/Kanji, while needing to reproduce the reading from memory. After almost a week of usage I can say it seems to help! This is the first time I got a weekly average above 85%, which means the load in the long term should go down as well, and hopefully being able to up the pace, but that is not something I will do for now.

Experimenting with grammar

This honestly is kind of a painful one for me. When learning in high-school, English grammar was always my weakest point, regularly failing on it in tests. Names for certain types of grammar never stuck. It was around 5 years after that I starting thinking in English and finally was being able to see what things actually mean. I was doing immersion without thinking too much about it (playing games, watching movies, series etc). That said I think basic grammar is something I need to be able to process sentences, therefore my experimentation.

My first experimentation was with https://yoku.bi, however while the explanation is clear I would loose it immediately an hour later. So about a week later I decided to try another method, this time https://guidetojapanese.org. This feels a lot better for me! I do feel like I’d like some more exercises, but they do seem to build on top of each-other. I tried searching for exercises/books but could not really find one that aligns well or has good reviews. If someone has something for that I would really appreciate it! I think recommendations from someone who went through the same is a lot better than the generic reviews etc.

Wrapping up this week

This post came out quite a bit longer than I expected :sweat_smile: I think I want to try to make this a weekly thing, however the next one will probably be 1.5 week away due to having more time in the weekends. My current schedule/goal is the following;

  • Every day do WaniKani unlocking 3 items, and then KaniWani as an company tool.
  • Once very 1 out of 3 days doing the Tae Kim’s Guide, the other days looking for the grammar in the immersion or doing tests for that grammer point.
  • Every day before sleeping at least 1 anime episode, and more if I want to throughout the day.
  • Playing “WitchSpring R”, not really a schedule and just doing it whenever I want to.

Thank you all for reading and have a wonderful day! Feedback and comments are always appreciated! May you have fun learning Japanese! :smiley:

Maarten

Hey

I’m the creator of The Tile World Chronicles.
Not sure with which story you started. The easiest one is Aryn’s wonderful world (which is very easy). The next one in terms of difficulty is Aryn’s rescue.

I hope that helps.

Good luck with your studies !

Hey, thank you for your response! I really appreciate it :smiley:

I tried Aryn’s rescue, I’ll definitely try Aryn’s wonderful world this weekend!

I would like to add that I tried Aryns rescue at the start of the last 2 weeks, so it might also be that this is why it felt quite difficult (I just realized this). I have watched a lot of Vinland saga in the meantime, so it might be that I now recognize the furigana/pronunciation instead of having to search the meaning of certain Kanji.

I’ll write in this post when I’ve read wonderful world :slightly_smiling_face:

I’ve been reading the easiest story Aryn's wonderful world. It goes a bit better however most things I still have to search. I think this is a clear indication on how early I am in my journey though, knowing about 50% of the kanji in N5 and less than half from the rest (Lvl 6 WaniKani). It is very nice everything contains furigana, and the visualizations assist a lot. For my completionist side it is nice this story is shorter, giving me a feeling I accomplished something.

As an example; 昨日, I know it is something with a day, but I don’t know the first kanji in this word. In WaniKani this word is teached at Lvl15 and from there I see it means yesterday, the kanji 昨 is from N3. It also leaves me to wonder what the difference is with 先日. My next step is to search that (or ask if I cannot find out). In this case I found out; 昨日 is very specifically yesterday, while 先日 can be any past day (I think).

A lot of things can be gathered from context though; for example あたまいた contains nothing I recognize, but I can see from the visualization it has something to do with not feeling well. After a search I see it means “having an headache”, and think, “ah that makes sense!” :slightly_smiling_face:

I will definitely continue with the stories, as I think they are nice and interesting to read! I also think I learn a lot from it.

Week 2

Hello everyone! I think this is going to be a longer story again :sweat_smile: It is a bit more than seven days, due to wanting to write this on Sunday when I got a lot more time. Last week was a bit of a rollercoaster, it started of great, hitting the 85% correct reviews consistently, however the last 2 days being below 85% again and yesterday being particularly bad at 70%. I suspect this is due to only adding Kanji to my lessons as these are the only ones left. I started using the “Recent mistakes, Extra Study” a bit more and I think I want to do this more regularly.

Patterns in Vocabulary

This week I started noticing a few patterns and I am going to write them down here. I am 99% sure they are correct, but if they are not please let me know! The first pattern I noticed was with thing and place markers such as これ and その. I searched for it and it can be a nice table! I made it first on paper for repetition purposes;

Distance Thing Place Modifier
こ, near me これ, this one ここ, here この…, this ..
そ, near you それ, that one そこ, there その…, that ..
あ, far from us あれ, that one over there あそこ, that over there あの…, that … over there
ど, question どれ, which one? どこ, where? どの…, which ..

The second pattern I noticed is with 上げる(to lift something), 下がる(to go down) and 止める (to stop something) and a few others. I am very bad in remembering what type of grammar something is and have to do it on vibe (this is also the case for English and Dutch for me, words like “transitive” just disappear). The えうsound seems to be things that something/you are doing, while あうis something that is happening without an object/to you. I suspect there is a similar pattern with 見せる (to show) and 見える(to be visible). This means the えう has some subdivisions I do not have clear yet but I think 上える would be that something goes up. I have a feeling this pattern will expand as I go, maybe even has a nice table! :slightly_smiling_face:

Grammar

Grammar last week has been slow, I had to take quite a lot of time to digest what I read. I did the lesson about は, が and も twice this week. They seem to have similar functions but I think I get the ‘vibe’, but am not able to fill in the words correctly in the exercises. は is just this is what we are talking about. が is what you are talking about, but there are multiple options so you use this to point to a specific one. も is also object but only in response when something else also has the property of what was answered, e.g. something like “I have a boat” → “I have a house too” where the second sentence can use も.

I have done the lesson on Adjectives (na and i) once, but I feel not confident in my usage of it. I made my first full Japanese sentence in my thoughts, so I am adding it here; どのアニメは見がった? → “Which anime did you watch?” I do not know why I used が after seeing, but my brain just wants it there for some reason. Maybe I picked something up from immersion, or it is just wrong. I found a post about small grammer questions, maybe I’ll post it there as well :slightly_smiling_face:

Immersion

My immersion is steadily progressing but I want to do more for it. For reading I did the first story Aryn’s wonderful world of the Tile world Chronicles. It was a nice read! I do think for a smoother experience I will wait a bit before reading more if it, as I think I will pickup a lot more when my vocab/grammar/immersion is a bit further progressed. Instead I want to do some graded readers and when done with that continue on the Time world Chronicles.

I found out something interesting for WitchSpring R, as I was wondering why I was stuck on progression so much. Apparently I was playing in the hardest difficulty :sweat_smile: I thought I was choosing an element as my first question, but I choose “very difficult” because I liked the purple staff. For future reference;

  • とてもむずかしい= very difficult (e.g. とて likely “very”)
  • むずかしい = difficult
  • ふつう = normal/average
  • やさしい = easy

For watching anime I changed it up a bit. JoJo’s adventure is a blast to watch but I noticed I only picked up around 1 word every 3 or 4 sentences, which meant I had almost no idea what was going on. Instead I started watching Nichijou. This story is also very fun, and I immediately noticed I get around 40% of what they are saying and can extrapolate a bit more as well. I also started noticing I sometimes get the “vibe” they are going with, but not being able to pinpoint an exact meaning. Some sub-stories I rewatch with English subtitles (normal watching is with Japanese subs). I do this when I feel like I am very off or think it would be nice go through it again to dissect it.

Something else I am doing is watching Japanese music, mostly Japanese Nightcore but also listened to “Popular songs in Japan” on Spotify. I have no idea if I am actually picking something up from this, but I like the songs so this is a nice way to also immerse myself in the language. As an added benefit I can put this on while working. I also tried listening to some Podcasts, but the ones I tried where very slow, or only talked Japanese without me able to pick up something from up, even those marked as “very easy”. So I think podcasts are just a bit too early for me currently.

Stats

I think the stats are always fun! So I am adding them now again as well. This will allow me to compare it over a longer period of time, which might be nice. As explained in the start of the post my reviews took a (small) dive in correct %.

When looking below I also see my guru I has a lot more items that expected when looking at the others. This may be because a lot of items from my apprentice went up at the same time, or I forgot a lot of items that were master/enlightened. I think I need to be a bit mindful of it, but my queue is not much larger so I think it is alright.

As a bonus my progression in KaniWani. I linked it to WaniKani so all the items used here are also unlocked there. Around Tuesday I also added all the items of enlightened to the queue, I first did not do this being afraid I would cheat my SRS progress on WaniKani, but realized that more encounters is better, so I unlocked them. This might mean I need to do a “burn items” review once in a while, but for now I do not worry about it.

Next week

Next week I want to steadily progress further on what I am currently doing;

  • Finish 2 graded readers tomorrow and one somewhere else in the week. I need to commute tomorrow so it should fit in perfectly.
  • Finish -na/-i adjectives and start “Verb Basics”, and maybe finish it depending on how long it takes for me to digest it.
  • Every day at least one anime episode before sleeping.
  • Making some meaningful progress in Witchspring R again, but this one is just when I feel like playing.

Have a wonderful day and all feedback is always appreciated! May you also have fun learning/immersing yourself in Japanese :slightly_smiling_face:

Week 3

Hello everyone! This week is going to be a shorter story :upside_down_face: Last week was a bit of a rollercoaster privately, I might share details later on in a private log instead but don’t know yet. I managed to do reviews every day, but not all the things I planned this week panned out as I wanted.

Vocabulary

This week unlocked all the Kanji of level 6, however about 30% of them are sticking at apprentice 1. I have used the training with “Recent Mistakes” a few times this week, which helped a bit for some items but I’ll just have to take my time with it.

Grammar

I haven’t got to the grammar points I wanted this week unfortunately. I have read the “Adjectives” page, but haven’t gotten around to the second pass and the exercises.

Immersion

Immersion started of great, on the way to my destination in the weekend I read about 14! level S graded readers on my way there. It went a lot easier than I expected and was able to grasp quite well what they where saying (even though a lot of terms I did not know yet). Later that day disaster struck and could not set my mind on reading more when heading back. I did read about 2 more later in the week, so I definitely got to my goal with this!

Almost very day I watched Nichijou, it really depends on the segment how much I am able to grasp. It is still very fun though, and all characters having their own personality allows to grasp easier what they want to go with. I think I will finish the show in about 2 weeks, and maybe faster if I feel like watching more.

The Japanese songs is something I did all week and enjoy a lot. I do not get a lot of what they are singing, but sometimes I get a word or sentence and that is nice.

Stats

My WaniKani stats have all around higher numbers, I have looked into it and it will take about a month before I start burning items again. The high amount of Guru I items seems to be more inline as well, and the workload is still manageable.

My KaniWani progress is quite a bit further than last time and the workload from it is about half every day now compared to last week. I notice it assists a lot with learning the vocab so I will progress like this coming week as well.

Next week

I think next week my focus is to find a few more things I enjoy in Japanese, not sure what it is yet but I feel like immersion is just a lot of fun. Nevertheless a small overview of what I want to do;

  • I would like to guru the required Kanji for lvl 7, a new level always feels fun because it unlocks so much vocabulary I can find in places.
  • Finish more graded readers, I think going in order is still a good move. I need about 5 more of lvl S before I read all the free ones. So I think it would be nice to do that and one lvl 0.
  • Finish the -na/-i adjectives basics and make a table (on paper) to compare it to an earlier lessons about stating things that are so I have something I can refer to.

Have a wonderful day and feedback/a cheer is always appreciated! May you have fun learning/immersing yourself and pursue things you want to! :slightly_smiling_face:

Hello Everyone! I decided to mix it up a bit for my studylogs (and change the title accordingly) :slightly_smiling_face: While I think the weekly summary is nice, I do encounter quite a bit in the meantime and want to write this down. Reading back my week 3 post, I don’t know why I was so negative about my progress last week, even though I felt like I could have done more, the progress wasn’t that bad :sweat_smile:

Adjectives

As written in the previous post I made the tables on paper and it allowed me to realize a few things. The first thing is that na-adjectives basically function as i-adjectives when in the negative form and changing it to the negative past. State of being is also very similar to na-adjectives with only one change in non-past positive form. I highlighted the things that allowed me to spot the patterns. I do have to be careful to not mix them up because they are so similar though.

State of being Positive Negative
Non-past だ | is じゃな | is not
Past だった | was じゃなかった | was not
Na-adjectives Positive Negative
Non-past じゃな
Past だった じゃなかった
i-adjectives Positive Negative
Non-past くな
Past かった くなかった

Graded readers / Reading immersion

I already went way past my goal of one L0 graded reader, I finished all the S-grade and 5 L0 readers. The first L0 was the most difficult, as I had to get used to reading the longer sentences that are not present in S-grade. Every reader I have to look up about 1 or 2 words/Kanji. I do feel like I make a lot of mistakes (and correcting it in 2 to 10 seconds later), in both Kanji readings and reading Hiragana/Katakana. While I can correct it without looking things up, I do not know if this will become a long term problem and therefore have to study the basics a bit more. As I can correct myself I’ll just blame dyslexia for the moment and carry on.

I started using the graded readers as small “time wasters”, which is why the amount of reading just shot up. Turns out I have quite a lot of moments I take out my phone when waiting, and instead of looking at technical news I can also read a bit of Japanese! I do still look at the technical news, but instead of going “Oh I’m bored”, I’ll go immediately to the graded readers.

I am also considering starting to read for the yotsuba-absolute-beginners-book-club. While quite a few threads have been started and it has been going on for a while, it looks to be alright to just start with the first one and ask questions in the corresponding thread. There is also a book-club that starts in Halloween and that is definitely a step up from what I am reading now. I may want to start that next month to decipher it (as the guide of Yotsuba mentioned the first books will be). I expect that my slower reading speed means I need the whole month for the first book though.

Updated goals of this week

The goals are mostly the same, with a few updates;

  • I want to read 1 graded reader (L0) every day.
  • I want to finish Nichijou, I am now at episode 19/26, which means about 2 episodes every day. I got a few series I want to rewatch, but that’s for next week!
  • Maybe start the absolute beginner book club. I more than doubled my immersion plans this week so it is probably a good idea to see how this pans out first.

Everyone have a wonderful day and may you have fun engaging with Japanese! :smiley:

I definitely remember trying to find things I could even remotely follow that wasn’t at the level of これはペンです。I think I’ve finally settled in on something now where I’m trying to do a lot of background listening to Japanese podcasts to let my brain process the language patterns in actual unscripted, human speech, and then trying to find things to occasionally actively listen to that I’m already familiar with (e.g., watching a Star Wars movie with Japanese audio/subs, or replaying Persona 3 in Japanese since I know the story well). The one thing I came to realize is that listening to Japanese music is fun but other than occasionally picking out words, because it’s not natural speaking it may not be the most “efficient” or “effective” study tool. Fortunately, it’s more important to enjoy what you’re doing so do what works for you! :slight_smile:

Reaching your goal is good. Reaching your goal dispute difficulties midway through and not using that as an excuse to stop is tremendous. Hopefully whatever disaster occurred was temporary and life resumes in a positive way!

Thank you for your kind post! :smiley:

Yea with the difficulty curve for podcasts I struggled quite a bit, what I found so far is “repeats 1 word 5 times” or “way to difficult for me to pick apart”. I fully agree that doing things that are fun is most important, which helps for motivation. :smiley:

Thank you :slightly_smiling_face: The disaster is unfortunately something that has been going on for about half a year, which has the tendency to come back in an unexpected way, but it looks like it is healing bit by bit. It had me down for a week but this week I feel a lot better!

Being down is just another opportunity to get back up! Hopefully this one doesn’t force you to have to get back up again, but I’m sure that if it does you’ll continue to perservere.

Week 4

Hello everyone! This week was quite a busy weak outside of Japanese study due to work, but I think I got a fair bit done and planned some nice things for my study :slightly_smiling_face: Level 7 is taking a bit longer than expected, but the coming days it will probably unlock. It does give me time to also go through all the vocab so it is not all bad. The balance feels right between vocab/grammar/immersion so I will continue on this trajectory.

Autumn Readathon

I was searching for some things to read. One thing I came across was the 2026-autumn-equinox-24-hour-readathon-秋分 and decided I am going to participate! I made a post with that I am going to read, but I think this is a good moment to expand a bit on my reasoning. Below the list I made;

  1. Read part 1 to 6 from https://drdru.github.io/stories.html
  2. Read all the N6 stories from https://yomujp.com/n5l/
  3. Catching up with the absolute beginner club :four_leaf_clover:よつばと! -yotsuba-absolute-beginners-book-club-home-thread

The first one I am going to start with is the beginner stories van drdru. I came across this and honestly just need an excuse to read them all. I took a quick glance at the first story and it looks very inline with what I am reading now in difficulty. I also feel confident when I finish these I can start on the Tile World Chronicles again!

After this I am going to read the N6 stories from yomujp, I forgot where I found this but it looks very similar to the graded readers from Tadoku. I also thought about using these for the ‘break’ reading but decided to use it for the readathon instead. I got no real reasoning other than “looks like nice to add it to the list”.

Lastly I want to join a book club! The one most in line with my current level is the absolute beginner club. They are quite a bit along, and therefore don’t know if I will fully catch up. I was planning to buying the physical copies but that unfortunately is on hold for a week without me being able to do something about it (I complained in the complain thread about it :upside_down_face:). I will for now use the free available parts and for every part I will also read the corresponding week question/ask questions. I do this at the end of the readathon because I think I need to decipher a fair bit more.

Grammar

I did grammar the page about Verb Basics and started on Negative verbs, but not the exercises yet. I have quite a bit of trouble recognizing if it is a -ru or -u verb. I think for now I’ll just continue and focus on recognition, as my current goal is not (yet) smooth speaking/sentence making. This means I probably have to do it again someday when my goals shift. I will still do the exercises but will not focus on getting it all right. Instead the focus will be on getting a feeling on how things works. I started making tables on paper but these are not complete yet. I will post these when I complete the negative and past tense so I can link them together more.

Immersion

I finished Nichijou! I did not do 2 episodes every day as it felt a bit too much but it felt quite nice to do the last episode this morning. Looking back I will probably change a few things. At episode 4 I turned off Japanese subtitles because it felt too distracting and did not really know yet why. I suspect it has to do with two things. The first that I’ve never seen it before, so I had to work more to get what is going on. The second is that I watched it on my PC instead of TV, which meant that the subtitles required more ‘head’ movement to see. So my next watch will be on TV again.

The next show I am going to rewatch is Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, also called “Your lie in april”. I remember watching it quite a while ago and liking it a lot. I will go with the 1 episode per day schedule again, and only watch more when I want to, so I do not have to scale down. One fun fact is that I can already read half of the title in the cover image! :smiley:

Reading is going well! I have now read 13 L0 readers. Yesterday I noticed my reading of Hiragana is going a lot more smooth than a week ago, and the readers now really feel at my level instead of a bit above it. In two stories I missed a lot of the Kanji, so later on I read them again to look things up, and learned quite a bit from that as well. I think I will continue this way; read it and figure out from context. If it is too difficult just continue reading in Hiragana and look things up later.

Stats

Time for stats again! They are quite in line with last week, just a bit higher numbers I think. I currently have 29/36 Kanji of lvl 6, so 4 more and I can start on lvl 7.

This week the first master level in KaniWani came into existence. These are mostly ones I already got at enlightenment of burned in Wanikani, but it is still nice to see them go up.

Goals

My next week goals are as follows:

  • WaniKani LvL 7, mostly so I do not run out of things to unlock. It is going steady so I do not worry too much about it.
  • Read and do the exercises on the pages Negative Verb, Past tense and Particles used with Verbs. I choose these because I think they will assist me a lot during the readathon. I will go through them a bit faster, focusing on recognition.
  • Continue reading graded readers. I feel like 10 stories next week is a good goal.

Everyone have a wonderful day and may you have fun learning! I think next week log will probably be a day later, due to me reading the whole day :upside_down_face:

Conjugation of verbs

I am going to go a bit quicker, I said before starting on the most complex conjugation rules (apparently) :upside_down_face:. Fortunately the recognition part seems to manageable, where the past positive form will take the most time. Negative form (almost) always seems to have a /u/ to /a/ conversion, and negative past always takes the い from the non-past negative and replacing it with かった.

るverbs Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past Past かった
u verbs Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past わな Past った わなかった
る, つ らな, たな った, った らなかった, たなかった
さな した さなかった
く,ぐ かな, がな いた, いだ かなかった, がなかった
む, ぶ, ぬ まな, ばな, なな んだ, んだ, んだ まなかった, ばなかった, ななかった
exceptions Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past する しな Past した しなかった
くる こな くた こなかった
*ある あった かった
行く 行かな 行った 行かなかった
State O B Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past だ \ is じゃな Past だった じゃなかった
Na-Adj Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past じゃな Past だった じゃなかった
I-Adj Positive Negative Positive Negative
Non-Past くな Past かった くなかった

I am going to review this table a few times, but if you spot a mistake please let me know! As always have a wonderful day and have fun learning Japanese!

Edit: Decided to add State of Being and the adjectives, because I was scrolling way to much between them.