For those who have reached level 60

I often find good value in whizzing through textbooks for a second time, as it allows me to pick up on things that didn’t make sense the first time - especially as I (theoretically!) should have a better understanding of how things work in general. And it usually takes a fraction of the time.

So, once I’ve burned everything (or close enough anyway) I’m considering resetting. Plus it’ll give me a chance to review the context sentences properly, which I mostly skipped the first time as many were way too advanced for me. Either way, it’ll only be a few minutes a day as my focus has shifted to other resources now.

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I’ve reset down to 0 on 2, maybe 3 occasions now. The higher level I have been resetting from, the more I’ve regretted it, because I end up wasting time on a bunch of things I already knew, so it was largely a waste of time to do so. I typically recommend resetting down 2-3 levels if it’s been a while since you’ve done reviews to cut down on the apprentice items and help catch up, but otherwise I strongly recommend against it.

Resetting from 60 looks like a different question, but I still hold the same belief there - it’s not worth the time. If you do want to go back and review everything level-by-level, the Self Study script will allow you to do that without having to go through the journey of resetting.

I see the best use of your time being studying grammar plus reading and listening to native material, because learning any language from only a textbook won’t help you in the real world unless you start to actually use it somewhere.

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I recommend focusing on something other than wanikani! Once you’ve learned this many kanji it becomes more fun to actually use it in reading, listening, grammar, etc :slight_smile:

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I am close to the end of the levels. I have been learning for a long time but I will reset the whole thing and start again once done. Why? I think the biggest asset to this program is that we learn the parts of the kanji and cement them in our memories. The radicals are the foundation of most of the kanji, and I haven’t completely got them all yet. The more you practice the better you will remember them. However, this time around, I will be actively reading proper Japanese stories to use the kanji in a different setting. Another way to remember them longer.

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To reach 60 and reset straight away seems like… an odd choice. I don’t see myself doing that, or resetting at all to be honest. There are opportunity costs of what you could be doing with those hundreds of hours rehashing a lot of stuff that you already know.

Not to mention there’s ample vocab out there in the wild that isn’t covered on WK. Even some surprisingly common stuff.

In any event I plan to spend at least a few months going through stuff I still have in queue. Burning them all would be nice, don’t know if I’ll get there. But the workload should steadily decrease and I’m happy to spend more of that time with grammar, listening practice, actively using the language, etc.

Can’t emphasize enough how important it is to use the language and promote things from passive memory (recognition) to active memory (production).

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As others have said, reading real Japanese might be much more useful than going through Wanikani again. Of course reseting isn’t a bad thing if you feel like you will learn and retain more knowledge. However, other aspects of the language might be even more important overall.

I’m not on level 60 yet (I might reach it by next week) but I think I’m greatly reducing my time on Wanikani afterwards. I’m honestly tired of SRS. Recently I have dropped bunpro after reaching level 70 and I have finally stopped anki (for handwriting and extra vocab). I was very reluctant at first but it felt great to suddenly have some more free time for native content. Nowadays I just want to have fun reading novels and playing games in Japanese.

I plan to start practicing more writing and speaking after Wanikani as well.

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The current plan is to keep going until I burn everything, but given how much time I currently devote to WK, after a week or two of level 60 it’s going to be a HUGE reduction in time commitment. Reviews are an easy way to fill in gaps in my work schedule, but I might not keep to my twice-a-day big review sessions anymore. I love WK guys, but I’m tired of it.

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Continue reading at a higher level.

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This is me too. My goals are to consume native content in the original language, so it aligns well with that since speaking and output aren’t priorities. Not that they’re unimportant or that I don’t try, but it’s something to work on after the goal.

I fully intend to burn and reset after 60, but who knows what’ll happen between now and then. :slight_smile:

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I went the burn everything route. It was good at first, since it allowed me to sort out my leeches from the rest and work more directly on them. However, that backfired around the time I had only ~200 items left. Basically, I was able to just remember which items were left. Even if I had a leech confusing two items, for instance, since I knew one was burned already it simply had to be the other one. I noticed that that “skill” didn’t transfer very well to real life (as expected).
Looking back, what I’d do (and plan to do still) is take the list of my leeches (there are tools that can give you how many times you failed items, that’s a good proxy) and import them into a different SRS like kitsun while adding more items to keep on my toes.
That being said, as @TamanegiNoKame mentioned, enjoying native content is already very nice. It’s not the most efficient way to study, but it’s way more fun (and I’m basically only doing that now that I burned everything here)

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This is really interesting to read. As someone who is reaching currently traversing the intermediate desert it’s interesting to read accounts of people who passed it and are currently thinking how they will climb mount fluency. It’s also heartening to see people so far in their journey and still willing to put their boots on and climb even further. It almost makes me ashamed for sitting on this somewhat comfortable plateau for as long as I have.

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mood

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I’m all for completing everything, but isn’t the ultimate goal to be interacting with native content? The reason why I still have items after so long is because I’m focusing on consuming Japanese rather the SRS system. So if you haven’t been really investing time in using Japanese, you might as well get started.

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Other: spend most of your Japanese time on native content, like books, video games, youtube videos, manga, anime, movies… Or using Japanese to interact with natives.

I didn’t burn everything. I wanted to, but it felt increasingly like a low return on investment time-wise.

Remember that any source for studying Japanese is only ever a crutch there to make using Japanese easier It’s not a goal in and of itself. :slight_smile:

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Thank-you everyone for your advice / experience.

I really appreciate it !

top answer was to reduce time spent on Wanikani (but with a few also saying burn all).

Likely that when / if i complete this year I will try to replace the regular kanji studying that Wanikani enforces with some sort of reading / listening practice.

maybe starting again is off the table for now :slight_smile: but going cold turkey on wanikani might be too much :rofl:

I am looking right now ! Think i might give it a whirl :slight_smile:

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Here is an example(leech) for me: 表(omote/front). I never managed to remember it properly but while playing Yu-Gi-Oh I saw it so many times that I couldn’t forget it anymore. 表側表示(おもて,がわ,ひょう,じ) means “Face-Up”. The same character has two readings in the same name. Crazy! Don’t try to be a perfectionist during your studies. Everything will fall in place after enough exposure to the real language.

If you REALLY struggle with those words, you can always make an Anki deck just for them. You will save so much time. WaniKani isn’t efficient at all because you will have to go through a lot of vocab you know already. It’s such a low return on investment.

I hope you will keep up the pace and reach 60 soon :slight_smile:

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oh god ! 表側表示 - two readings in the same word. Brilliant :sweat_smile:

Lvl 59? when is your anticipated lvl60 ? :partying_face:

I am not level 60 or close to it. But i did mess up some burn reviews (pretty bad too) i don’t think it worth resetting though.

In 2 days, my final post is already prepared :smiley:

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