You’re saying because some of the Kanji is released the day you level up… That is harder to plan for before hand, but will be useful…
A lot of my plans may need to be edited on the fly based on what is released upon leveling up… Which is fine.
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Usually you can’t do all the Kanji on the first day, because the second batch of Kanji (around 15) is only released once you guru the necessary radicals. But this does not slow down your level speed, since it’s possible to do those in one go (under 20).
The only exception to this are the fast levels, where all Kanji is immediately unlocked, but even then this does not slow down your progress, since the method your talking about doesn’t aim for max speed. Assuming you’re doing some of the Kanji (of a fast level) on the third day of a level (which is possible if there are many radicals), then you guru those Kanji on the 6th day. Which is irrelevant, because there is still so much leftover vocab, that you can’t even start the new Radicals and Kanji. So this concern of yours isn’t anything to be worried about. Instead I would recommend you to insert a sentence in the guide, stating that one shouldn’t start new Radicals and Kanji before finishing the old level’s vocab.
Thank you! It’s been about 2 years since I was level 9 so I had forgotten that some kanji is released upon level up!
Okay good. This will allow me to relax a bit. I think my guide is a good as it can be until I have lived through some of the upper levels. I will edit it once I have first hand experience.
I’m not sure how I want to handle levels with extra vocab. In some ways, my guide is happy to let vocab accumulate in the back ground. Because 0/0s are not a goal, it’s fine if some of the vocab waiting is from 2 levels ago. It will all be handled eventually…
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I don’t want to massively criticize you, but it seems that you haven’t understood some WKs basic concepts. The vocab isn’t just there to build vocabulary, but primarily to reinforce the Kanji. You also don’t gain anything by letting the vocab accumulate until level 60 and then doing it. On the contrary, as just explained, this would entirely defy the original purpose. You also have to account for the psychological factor. Even if you’re doing the same amount of vocab every day, you feel a lot better with just 15 unlearned lessons on your lesson staple instead of 215 (believe me, that happens very quick). And even though you’re not falling behind schedule, this is when people give up.
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Wow, I am in awe. I can’t imagine getting such high accuracy rates. How the heck did you do it?
Here are my current stats as calculated by wkstats:
| Total Reviews: | 51670 | 54031 | 105701 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Correct: | 47085 | 50242 | 97327 |
| Incorrect: | 4585 | 3789 | 8374 |
| Accuracy: | 91.13% | 92.99% | 92.08% |
| Radicals: | — | 96.49% | 96.49% |
| Kanji: | 96.47% | 97.50% | 96.98% |
| Vocabulary: | 90.02% | 91.77% | 90.89% |
And here’s my stats using my own calculator, which provides combined reading and meaning accuracy, which is what actually matters for review load.
radical:
Overall: 96.42065251821349% (3044/3157)
Apprentice 1: 97.60191846522781% (407/417)
Apprentice 2: 99.7560975609756% (409/410)
Apprentice 3: 99.29245283018868% (421/424)
Apprentice 4: 99.77924944812362% (452/453)
Guru 1: 95.55084745762711% (451/472)
Guru 2: 92.7765237020316% (411/443)
Master: 92.22520107238606% (344/373)
Enlightened: 90.3030303030303% (149/165)
kanji:
Overall: 94.05905788610265% (8027/8534)
Apprentice 1: 92.07516339869281% (1127/1224)
Apprentice 2: 97.91666666666667% (1128/1152)
Apprentice 3: 98.05352798053528% (1209/1233)
Apprentice 4: 97.57575757575758% (1288/1320)
Guru 1: 93.19880418535126% (1247/1338)
Guru 2: 90.17094017094017% (1055/1170)
Master: 88.43537414965986% (780/882)
Enlightened: 89.76744186046511% (193/215)
vocabulary:
Overall: 81.96674535031516% (31599/38551)
Apprentice 1: 78.1027515874543% (4059/5197)
Apprentice 2: 90.14% (4507/5000)
Apprentice 3: 86.71607753705815% (6084/7016)
Apprentice 4: 85.9383832673827% (6081/7076)
Guru 1: 76.09531129900077% (4950/6505)
Guru 2: 76.56420318290822% (3512/4587)
Master: 74.96413199426112% (2090/2788)
Enlightened: 82.72251308900523% (316/382)
Overall accuracy: 84.9289439114685% (42670/50242)
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No no, I agree. I misspoke. I don’t want obsess over vocab, but it definitely shouldn’t be an afterthought either. I added a section that plans out my level ups. “My Log of Daily Review Numbers/Level Ups”. It’s specifically to make sure that I have time to complete all vocab. For instance level 12 and 13 have so many vocab that they should be completed in 8 and 9 days respectively to make sure you don’t fall behind on vocab.
Also. I don’t know how you do vocab, But for instance during level 3, I’m completing level 2 vocab, with the intention of completing level 2 vocab before level 3 vocab is released.
Also, it seems that the levels get more complicated than you can plan for in abstract. Again, I can see that the guide is as complete as it can be until I have the experience of being level 12, and seeing 215 lessons.
I think people give up for many reasons. Sometimes they just give up because they don’t want to do it anymore, no matter how streamlined you make the program for them. My guides intention isn’t to stop people from quitting, it’s to decrease overwhelm of this task. It’s a paradigm shift to show that in WaniKani, slow and steady isn’t really all that slow, when you are efficient and intentional.
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As for planning ahead: Blue_anew already linked my Vocab list, so I won’t do it again, but that’s how you plan ahead as much as possible. And for completing the levels vocab alongside the level itself, that is to a certain degree possible. You just have to learn the right Kanji at the right time.
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I had no idea you could produce all these statistics! I’m fascinated to see that y’all are so exceptionally motivated to power through this.
I originally signed up for WK in early 2017, let it rest for almost three years, then started back up on May 20 at level 4 and have since been dilly-dallying through it with an average accuracy rate of ~90% (usually scoring between 88% and 92%). No idea what trajectory that puts me on, but in case anyone was following this thread and wondering if they were alone in their “let’s cross that bridge when we come to it” approach to WK, you’re not!
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Oh perfect. Thank you for mentioning that list. I hadn’t seen Blue’s post!
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Part of it I think is that by going full speed, I am hitting the SRS intervals on time for all the items, basically.
Another thing I’ve been doing recently though is if I enter a meaning that’s not listed on WK but is clearly a synonym (or just an accepted meaning on jisho.org, WK doesn’t list them all), I will undo the review and then add the synonym. It’s especially helpful for some of the vocab with meanings that are practically just phrases.
It’s important to make sure that you do a little bit of looking into the word when adding a synonym like this to make sure it actually matches its meaning.
Here’s my extended accuracy stats, using your script:
radical:
Overall: 99.02740937223696% (3360/3393)
Apprentice 1: 97.79735682819383% (444/454)
Apprentice 2: 100% (444/444)
Apprentice 3: 100% (453/453)
Apprentice 4: 99.56427015250544% (457/459)
Guru 1: 98.47826086956522% (453/460)
Guru 2: 98.62068965517241% (429/435)
Master: 98.27586206896552% (399/406)
Enlightened: 99.64539007092199% (281/282)
kanji:
Overall: 98.91036184210526% (9622/9728)
Apprentice 1: 98.83805374001453% (1361/1377)
Apprentice 2: 99.63423555230432% (1362/1367)
Apprentice 3: 99.56236323851203% (1365/1371)
Apprentice 4: 99.71160778658977% (1383/1387)
Guru 1: 99.25871015567087% (1339/1349)
Guru 2: 98.27721221613156% (1255/1277)
Master: 97.57412398921834% (1086/1113)
Enlightened: 96.71457905544148% (471/487)
vocabulary:
Overall: 96.67958108844361% (31941/33038)
Apprentice 1: 96.47856517935259% (4411/4572)
Apprentice 2: 98.7012987012987% (4408/4466)
Apprentice 3: 98.82277397260275% (4617/4672)
Apprentice 4: 98.44495127513996% (4748/4823)
Guru 1: 96.1310133060389% (4696/4885)
Guru 2: 94.4580458490986% (4244/4493)
Master: 93.10624493106245% (3444/3699)
Enlightened: 96.1484593837535% (1373/1428)
Overall accuracy: 97.32229900994389% (44923/46159)
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I’ve been going pretty much as fast as possible as well. I rarely bother adding synonyms or undoing reviews though.
That being said, it can’t just be the meanings, because I often struggle with readings too. Especially the ones that have rendakus (or seem like they should have rendakus but don’t!) or all the alternate onyomi readings (the sei/shou stuff is just evil) or the tsu contractions or so on. For example, it took me so long to remember the readings for say, 脱 words. I pretty much had to just memorize “it contracts for 脱走する and 脱線 and everything else uses the full tsu”. Likewise with 仏僧 and friends, and many other examples.
Also, sometimes, I just straight out forget words or kanji, or get one mixed up for another, although that’s less common then the previously mentioned issues.
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Rendaku and words that drop the つ can be a bit weird, but I almost have an instinct for it now since you normally have to do it when it makes pronouncing the word “easier”. Like saying だつそう is difficult with that つ in the middle compared to だっそう, whereas だつじ isn’t really made any easier by saying だっじ (here shortening the つ makes it more difficult, I’d argue).
Tofugu also has a decent article on some of the “rules” of rendaku Rendaku: Why Hito-Bito isn't Hito-Hito
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I wanna add that I am also going full speed (I’ve hit a perfect 6 hours 20 minutes on all but 4 levels) but my accuracy for vocab is only about 95%, so it isn’t just that you are hitting the intervals
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“Only 95%”? If I ever get that high, it’s a cause for celebration!
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Sleep?
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IIRC, you also don’t use scripts, right? Considering how often I mistype things, and how often I just give a bit of a pass for apprentice 1/2 items, and it could certainly be much lower.
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Forreal, like 上げる and 上がる. I had the right idea is my mind, but mixed up rise and raise’s meanings in my head. I was like no, no, I get credit for this.
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Nope, I don’t use any user scripts. If you’re just overriding to give yourself credit on the apprentice items, that would probably explain a big part of the difference.
I do occasionally cheat by just quitting a review session in the middle and coming back an hour later once WK has forgotten about my “wrong” answer, but I only do that occasionally, since it’s such an extreme measure.
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I’m not sure how useful the guide will be in the long run, but so far it’s just caused me to miss a review I should have gotten. I thought 評判 probably had a rendakku but then I second guessed myself thanks to the guide, thinking on’yonmi = chinese word = no rendakku. 
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Any H - H vocab almost always gets rendaku’d, from what I’ve seen. But yeah the rules definitely have lots of exceptions.
I like to remember this one as “you need to watch your fame/reputation, or you’ll get BANned”.
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