Don't break the golden rule of interface design

More clicks = bad, this update makes “view info” only show the the current flashcard answer, and then adds a need to click to expand things like kanji composition, or whether it’s a godan or ichidan verb. This new interface is basically going backwards in time a decade to older (and worse) website design. It of course also breaks double check script, and frankly that’s a battle that seems more about extending subscriptions due to typos than an actual pedagogy decision. Just include an undo button, there will be typos when you do hundreds of reviews in an hour.

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Following this “golden” rule of interface design caused the summary page to disappear because it took more clicks to finish lessons. There are no golden rules.

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It’s kind of interesting that I agree and disagree with both posts here, given my experience in web development. There are some general guidelines to follow, but they often conflict with one another.

But, there is a golden rule: “Keep your users in mind.” Of course, how this plays out varies, and there’s very rarely ever one type of user. So, conflict abounds.

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That would only break the rule if the summary page appeared after every single item, which it didn’t. One click out of dozens or hundreds, depending on the review size, does not break that rule. If you had to navigate somewhere else on the site to review the summary for the last lesson, that would break the rule they are talking about.

This site is all about the game-ification of learning, and the last update hurts that by breaking the flow and removing reward feedback. It would be like if a racing game just dumped you back to the home screen after a race ended without displaying the ranking, or if fighting games omitted the win screen, or if battle royale games omitted the stats screen.

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Just popping in to say that I agree with how ridiculously hidden the kanji composition is in the new update. I actually didn’t mention it in my hot take after one session (only grievous deletion of summary pages), but now I find it really obscured.

I don’t how it slipped through the cracks, though. It really seems like no one on the developers’ side is actually using their product like the new learners are, looking up the compositions when they are unsure of something. I assume if you used that daily, you’d notice QoL annoyances like that. Or uselessness of low-effort mnemonics etc

Again, this and summaries are heavily skewing the otherwise decent update IMO ;\

But you are certainly going in the wrong direction if 9 out 10 user’s complain

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Why would a summary page appear after every item? That’s an extremely weird interpretation. I’m only talking about the “view info” page the majority of users will only see when they get something wrong and want to see the answer and further details anyway. The problem is it’s only giving the immediate answer and not the other details The actual summary page as far as I know only appears at the start and end of reviews/lessons, and is gone now. I don’t actually care about that one too much.

I wasn’t replying to you. I was replying to the person saying having a summary page breaks the rule.

Definitely. I was just talking generally.

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