Doggy Detectives 2! γŠγ‹γ‚γ‚Š Week 1 Discussion 🐢

More beginner questions :sweat_smile: On the end of page 8 there is γΎγγ‘γ‚‰γ‹γ—γŸ which in spreadsheet is marked as to scatter + to scatter around. How should I read this kind of compound verb (if that is right term…) Is it just A then B like in て-form sequencing? And is すべってころび earlier in the page similar type of compound?

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When you have two verbs linked by the て-form, there’s more of a sense of a sequence of events. So まきけらかす is more like a single action/verb, whereas すべってころぢ is more like β€œhe slipped and [then] fell”.

I’m not actually sure whether the て-form variety are grammatically referred to as compound verbs or not :thinking: anybody know?

With まきけらかす, I’d say that Japanese is a surprisingly big fan of emphasis and redundancy. It takes a bit of getting used to. Sometimes you’ll see something described with a verb, adverb and onomatopoeia, all of which mean pretty much exactly the same thing :sweat_smile: like β€œit dripped drippily with a drip”!

And it’s a good question! More please :grin:

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So am I suppose to believe that by page 10, Spitz encouraged his dogs to run around, then got angry and made them do push-ups when something got knocked over? Sounds like he was the problem.!

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Thanks for this, this is a great list that I have needed in my goal of learning Japanese. There are a lot of people who are struggling with this because it is such an unnatural language to other people but I like that I am limiting my issues with vocab recently. There are some people who are also finding success there which is great to see. Hopefully, there are some things that will be used to the fullest potential because there are people who are also interested in this kind of thing because it is a great tool for learning a language.

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I started reading the character descriptions first it’s hard but I’m getting there. This is my first ever book! :sob: :pleading_face:

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Nice! Your first book will always be a challenge :slight_smile: we’re here to help if you get stuck on anything though. The character descriptions are also quite brief and stilted, so you might actually find the standard content a bit easier!

Don’t forget to make use of the vocab spreadsheet, which doesn’t cover the character descriptions :wink:

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Wow, θ…Ήε·»! I didn’t know this was a thing!

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What is the point of them?

Modern day haramaki are to keep you warm. Traditionally it’s part of Japanese armour - Wikipedia - Haramaki.

For Cleopatra maybe some kind of belt like this? We will find out I guess.

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Who do these γ„γ‚Œγ° belong to? I think this is 孔子 (Confucius). At first I misread as るしる, but couldn’t remember Lucy Liu having false teeth!

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There’s a lot of words I don’t know :cry:
Should I start learning all of them or just keep referring to the spreadsheet?

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I’d refer to the spreadsheet. Most of those words are not worth learning at this stage, because you won’t see them a lot. The words that do occur often you’ll start remembering of your own accord after a while :slight_smile:

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Personally I wouldn’t bother learning them. I can guarantee you will learn some of them by sheer exposure because they come up so much (like β€œrobber”!), and if they don’t come up again they’re not useful enough to be worth the time right now :slight_smile:

Edit: haha @Phryne :grin:

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Great minds eh? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Thanks both of you :slightly_smiling_face:
The phrase that I remember the strongest, for some reason, is γ—γ‚‡γ†γŒγͺい :laughing:

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Tbh a surprisingly common phrase, so it’s by no means a waste of brain space :grin:

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On Page 13, what does the けゃ in わからγͺくけゃ do?

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It’s a contraction of ては, so it’s わからγͺくては.

If you’ve not come across that (ては) before, it’s used to express an β€œif / when” situation, but only when the consequence is a negative one. I believe it can also be used to express more of a conditional, like β€œwhenever [A] happens, [B] happens”.

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Thank you again :slightly_smiling_face: and sorry for all my questions :sweat_smile:

I wasn’t expecting it to be N2 grammar…


Sorry I’m not on my laptop and don’t know how to make the image smaller

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I’ve learned a lot from your question. Thank you! :blush:

And thank you @Radish8 for the explanation. :pray:

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This thread wouldn’t be anywhere near as useful without questions, so please don’t apologise.

I hope to get caught up on the weekend after some tech glitches during the week and hope to be asking plenty of my own in week 2.

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