# Do you remember the number of strokes? Do you use SKIP? -- My solution was created, plus stroke orders

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**Category:** Kanji\
**Created:** [March 12, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508 "2017-03-12T02:17:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![polv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/polv/32/572691_2.png) [@polv](https://community.wanikani.com/u/polv)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/1 "2017-03-12T02:17:28Z")

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Do you remember the number of strokes? Do you search by SKIP code?

Also, what about multiple radical Kanji input?

If you do, how do you remember the number of strokes – for faster searching?

I was grown up not using OCR properly, sorry. Writing Kanji in Kanji dictionary by hand sometimes is not working.

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Edit: I now create Anki decks with stroke orders:  
Based on [Jisho.org](http://Jisho.org), I created Anki decks to remember “Stroke count”, for my personal use. Total 252 cards.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/7/3/73e182192223339198f80c0d8a7638bebf375b5b.png)  
There will be stroke orders with appropriate font / in Anki version.

Spreadsheet version: [Kanji by stroke count - Google Sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17hzwbhorXl7XJuj0xkfNhj-w7nCvky4O53rHyvCbgf4/edit?usp=sharing)  
Anki version: [Dropbox - Jisho-strokes.apkg - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztkua67tlz6u4ar/Jisho-strokes.apkg?dl=0)  
Sample:

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/e/6/e6443e9166a21896bfae505b76c075f30bb7e437.png) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/8/1/817944f37f8951301fe2170a4f79a95e06ae9c80.png)

Anki settings: 1 10 240 480 1440 4320 (Almost similar to WaniKani), with the tag: 1-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8-10, 11-17, to aid in creating filtered deck.

//↓I’ve decided that to do this one below might pointless, though.

I also created an official radicals’ version, totaling 2192 cards, but I won’t do that one yet. It is way too large. Also tagged by a group of about 40-200 cards each.  
Anki: [Dropbox - Official-radical-strokes.apkg - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/k24ygktmt4r4wht/Official-radical-strokes.apkg?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![Kumirei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kumirei/32/480522_2.png) [@Kumirei](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kumirei)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/2 "2017-03-12T02:20:05Z")

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What? I don’t think anyone remembers number of strokes; why would you do that?

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**Author:** ![polv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/polv/32/572691_2.png) [@polv](https://community.wanikani.com/u/polv)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/3 "2017-03-12T02:21:13Z")

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For being faster at typing an unknown Kanji, with unknown reading.

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**Author:** ![Inserio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/inserio/32/92_2.png) [@Inserio](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Inserio)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/4 "2017-03-12T02:21:30Z")

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Neither…[Google OCR](https://translate.google.com/) is OP. Though I saw someone mention [KanjiTomo](http://kanjitomo.net/) in another thread, so I downloaded that and think it’ll be useful for various things for sure.

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**Author:** ![ShotgunLagoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/shotgunlagoon/32/339631_2.png) [@ShotgunLagoon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ShotgunLagoon)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/5 "2017-03-12T03:01:28Z")

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i dont remember the number of strokes necessarily, but if i see a kanji i can go through the stroke order and count them. i use skip sometimes but sometimes i miscount the number of strokes and then its a pain

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**Author:** ![polv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/polv/32/572691_2.png) [@polv](https://community.wanikani.com/u/polv)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/6 "2017-03-12T03:13:23Z")

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Using a paperback Kanji dictionary a lot might be bigger pain.

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**Author:** ![Kraits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kraits/32/383532_2.png) [@Kraits](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kraits)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/7 "2017-03-12T03:18:56Z")

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Articles from Tofugu that I found by searching “kanji.” Ordered by most relevant.

1. [How to guess a Kanji’s stroke order](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-stroke-order/)
2. [How to look up and read kanji you don’t know](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/look-up-kanji/)
3. [Skritter: a great way to great practice kanji, stroke order](http://www.tofugu.com/reviews/skritter/)
4. [How to find the kanji radical](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/how-to-find-the-kanji-radical/)

All articles written by Koichi, except the last one.

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**Author:** ![sirocco](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@sirocco](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sirocco)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/8 "2017-03-12T03:19:15Z")

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I was really into SKIP until the radicals from WK really began sticking. Now when I do reviews I think of radicals instead of SKIP because I will and do write them by hand. It helps me remember the overall form more.

As for searching, I just look up the radicals and I guess I count the strokes in my head. I don’t memorize them. OH! I’ll write the character by hand in the air to help me count the strokes. \_\_φ(．．)

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**Author:** ![ideordinal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/ideordinal/32/33651_2.png) [@ideordinal](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ideordinal)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/9 "2017-03-12T03:22:06Z")

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Sameish as @ShotgunLagoon + radicals (I started my Japanese adventure with RTK, so breaking kanji down into components is my first instinct) (It also makes it easier to guess at stroke count if I have to, incidentally).

That dictionary is a blessing, honestly. If I’m VERY stumped, though, or if I’m trying to read a character written with handwriting I can’t confidently parse enough to recreate it/guess at the component, then I go to [this wiki page here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kanji_by_stroke_count) after guesstimating a rough stroke count and start hunting. Actually works pretty well. I’m usually accurate to within one stroke, and since I’m looking for a particular structure it narrows down what I’m looking at very quickly.

I definitely don’t use SKIP. It looks terrifying.

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**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/10 "2017-03-12T03:48:51Z")

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Yeah, I see no reason to memorize kanji stroke numbers, you can tell by looking at it if you know how to follow kanji writing rules.

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**Author:** ![polv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/polv/32/572691_2.png) [@polv](https://community.wanikani.com/u/polv)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/11 "2017-03-12T06:01:53Z")

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> [@ryan2](#):
>
> Articles from Tofugu that I found by searching “kanji.” Ordered by most relevant.
> 
> 1. [How to guess a Kanji’s stroke order](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-stroke-order/)
> 2. [How to look up and read kanji you don’t know](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/look-up-kanji/)
> 3. [Skritter: a great way to great practice kanji, stroke order](http://www.tofugu.com/reviews/skritter/)
> 4. [How to find the kanji radical](http://www.tofugu.com/japanese/how-to-find-the-kanji-radical/)
> 
> All articles written by Koichi, except the last one.

Based on [Jisho.org](http://Jisho.org), I created Anki decks to remember “Stroke count”, for my personal use. Total 252 cards.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/7/3/73e182192223339198f80c0d8a7638bebf375b5b.png)

Spreadsheet version: [Kanji by stroke count - Google Sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17hzwbhorXl7XJuj0xkfNhj-w7nCvky4O53rHyvCbgf4/edit?usp=sharing)  
Anki version: [Dropbox - Jisho-strokes.apkg - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztkua67tlz6u4ar/Jisho-strokes.apkg?dl=0)  
Sample:

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/e/6/e6443e9166a21896bfae505b76c075f30bb7e437.png) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/8/1/817944f37f8951301fe2170a4f79a95e06ae9c80.png)

Anki settings: 1 10 240 480 1440 4320 (Almost similar to WaniKani), with the tag: 1-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8-10, 11-17, to aid in creating filtered deck.

//↓I’ve decided that to do this one below might pointless, though.

I also created an official radicals’ version, totaling 2192 cards, but I won’t do that one yet. It is way too large. Also tagged by a group of about 40-200 cards each.  
Anki: [Dropbox - Official-radical-strokes.apkg - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/k24ygktmt4r4wht/Official-radical-strokes.apkg?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![Kraits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kraits/32/383532_2.png) [@Kraits](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kraits)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/12 "2017-03-12T09:53:41Z")

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That’s a lot of cards. It would be useful to remember the stroke order, it would help you write.

Writing kanji has a fluidity to it that English doesn’t. I have practiced writing kanji calligraphy with large brush strokes before and it is very relaxing… but difficult!

This is from a famous caligrapher.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/9/2/92a64ab7fd94fdad15bc2012f4838444d7880bfc.jpg)

I noticed in your browser tabs the article [List of kanji by concept](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kanji_by_concept). This is a really interesting way of organising kanji. I have always liked that kanji seem to represent concepts, I find the ambiguity more comforting.

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**Author:** ![Adashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/adashi/32/7018_2.png) [@Adashi](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Adashi)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/13 "2017-03-12T11:17:01Z")

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> [@ryan2](#):
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> I noticed in your browser tabs the article List of kanji by concept. This is a really interesting way of organising kanji. I have always liked that kanji seem to represent concepts, I find the ambiguity more comforting.

very nice! thank you for pointing out.  
haha those counters, even one for tatami mats 😛

would you mind showing us some of your calligraphy? I’m really interested!

and what does it say in the one you uploaded?

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**Author:** ![Kraits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kraits/32/383532_2.png) [@Kraits](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kraits)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/14 "2017-03-12T11:45:37Z")

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Last time I practiced was a long time ago! I hadn’t started WaniKani then. Sadly I don’t have any remaining pictures of it. I certainly want to pick up calligraphy again.

I was thinking of buying a 筆ペン [ふでペン] (brush pen) and some 原稿用紙 [げんこうようし] (draft paper) and write each new kanji I learn a few times. It would be very time consuming.

> [@"Adashi](#):
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> and what does it say in the one you uploaded?

It says “別無工夫”, meaning “no spiritual meaning,” supposedly. I don’t see it.

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**Author:** ![Filamena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/filamena/32/3254_2.png) [@Filamena](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Filamena)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/15 "2017-03-14T00:43:54Z")

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\_\_φ(．．)

This is the cutest thing I have ever seen I can’t. I can’t. Omg.

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**Author:** ![sirocco](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@sirocco](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sirocco)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/do-you-remember-the-number-of-strokes-do-you-use-skip-my-solution-was-created-plus-stroke-orders/16508/16 "2017-03-14T03:37:19Z")

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> [@Filamena](#):
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> \_\_φ(．．)
> 
> This is the cutest thing I have ever seen I can’t. I can’t. Omg.

Yay! I’m happy it helped spread some cheer (ﾉ´ヮ`)ﾉ\*: ･ﾟ  
Kaomoji forever~
