Do you finish all of your current level's vocab before moving to the next level?

That’s what I did all the way up to lv 60. I highly recommend it as it helps you retain the kanji readings and expose you to the alternative readings (mostly kun’yomi for vocab) while the kanji is still fresh in your memory. There is just no reason to rush ahead of that process, just to level up faster and get yourself a backlog of lessons.

I always found the vocab lessons the more fun part of WK anyway. They’re what you’ll actually use! So, spending time on them is always going to be worthwhile. Kanji is just a way to understand/read the vocab.

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It took me getting to Level 30ish as well before I finally learned a better way to progress. Right now it takes me 7.5-10 days to finish a Level thanks to my extensive Memory Palaces for each Level. I finally got sick and tired of these Lesson dumps and found a way to space it all out over the course of a week. For me it’s about restraint. I do the Radicals right out the gate, then 7 Kanji day over a period of 5 days. Whenever I pass 7 Kanji, there are 12-22 vocab that will inevitably unlock that same day. By spacing out my Lessons over a stretch and marking my schedule to do Reviews at Peak availability, I can make more consistent progress with less stress. My goal is to complete each Level in 10 days, not the 7 days my brain wants to do. You have to keep in mind that every Kanji has similiar Kanji and these Kanji will come up in later vocab over and over again. When you pass a Level that won’t be the last time you see that Kanji. So no, fight the urge to zero out your vocab before moving on to the next Level. And fight the urge to do more Lessons than the inevitable Review pile you can handle as a result. Don’t rush. Be consistent. Pay attention to the nuances of details with each Kanji. That means really understanding the radicals well. You got this!

Do you find that all your similiar looking Kanji are coming to haunt you now? I swear, I can’t wait to be done with the Hell Unit! I welcome Paradise!

Well zeroing out the vocab means I don’t get to see it in the next Level at all and that has proven to be bad for me.

How long have you been at Level 60? Are you resurrecting burned Kanji to keep things interesting? How long did it take you to pass each Level in the past? What other apps would you say help with applying what you’ve learned with WaniKani and how well has WaniKani prepared you for the JLNP1?

I 100% recommend doing all your vocab. It’s not about learning those words, it’s about remembering all the different kinds of readings a kanji can have, and about catching the nuance between similar kanji. Do the vocab please. You’ll crash and burn in a 10-20 levels if you don’t.

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It’s been almost 2 months now. You can find all my stats here:

https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-long-and-winding-immersion-path-to-wanikani-level-60/49888/68

As for the JLPT1 test, I don’t plan on taking it. But, WK is not enough for that anyway. You’ll need a lot more stuff: grammar, reading and listening comprehension and even more kanji and vocab, the latter especially you need to pick up on outside of WK. You can find other threads here on WK that discuss the JLPT.

I don’t really use any apps. I just read manga I like, listen to Drama CDs and music, watch Japanese movies and anime and play games. I’m the immersion learning type. But, lately, I’ve also been reading Kamermans’ “An introduction to Japanese - Syntax, Grammar & Language” for grammar.

I don’t plan on resurrecting anything as you can quiz yourself on burned items with the Self-Study Quiz to do a refresher when I feel like it. I’m doing a bit of that right now, which you can read more about on my study log here on WK. :slight_smile:

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Thanks! Yeah.

Well I have Rosetta Stone for basic conversational practice to get started with hearing Japanese.
I also have Bunpro which is actually really great for grammar. I hope to get through JLPT3 by the time I also pass Level 60 in December. Then I will spend 6 months focused on reading, writing, and grammar more deligently for the JLPT1.

This has been one heck of a ride so far! 2 years in the making! I will check out that book!

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I’ve done it the same way as @ekg all the way up until now. I prefer to finish all the previous vocab and reinforce those kanji before I start a new level. I’ll even stop a lesson session early in order to pick up the new level items the next day.

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You’re soo close to the finish line now! wooot! :grin:

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I agree with the way you are going about things. I think if you only learn kanji you only learn one reading. Not very useful when using vocabulary as the readings will change. I always thought I was a bit slow as it takes me around 16 days to fully complete a level. Now I realise why some people do it in 8 days. Oh well onward and upward (slowly) lol

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I’m also in the former camp. I have the reorder script, but I only use it to immediately do the radical lessons after levelup, so that by the time I’m done with the previous level’s vocab, all the current level’s kanji are unlocked.

I do. I can’t/ am not smart enough to download scripts on mobile. I just go in the original wanikani order

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I do all the radicals and kanji lessons as soon as I can after leveling up, and then do the vocab in the next few days whenever I feel like it. My current speed is a bit less than 8 days per level, and I want to keep that up. WK is basically a kanji learning shortcut, so to me it makes sense to get through the app as fast as one can. I used to do the vocab lessons first originally, and tbh apart from it getting in my way of unlocking stuff faster I haven’t noticed any difference in the learning process. Like, my kanji memory doesn’t suffer at all if I learn the new kanji before doing the previous level’s vocab.

Slow and steady wins the race. :blush: I also thought I was really slow in comparison to some people around here. But overall, the vocabulary has been a real help in solidifying various readings / meanings (although I resented it at first), which has become more apparent as burn items appear.

I’ve already accepted I’m not going to reach level 60 in the space of a year and change, but it’s the journey and not the destination.

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I’m always do things the same way (or at least, this is the most effective way I’ve found to progress) to try and balance things. This is always mapped over the 3d 10hrs, so is applicable whether it’s upon level up or upon hitting the mid-level point having guru’d the radicals :

  • do all kanji and radical lessons immediately
  • Take the remaining vocab lessons and divide in half, doing the first half at 10am the day after level up and the second half 10am the next day
  • hit 0/0 before I hit mid-level or level-up
  • do it all again

I finish the radical lessons immediately, kanji over the first 1-2 days, then all the vocab over the next 1-2 days. Completing the previous level’s vocab first would result in a 3 day wait period with 0 lessons available.

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Since when you clear all kanji for a level you both level up and get vocab for that kanji, I do it the WK default/vanilla way - learn new items as they are given.

My level-ups land on the weekend so I can plow through new items either in one go or with breaks. However, I might change this approach once I hit higher levels and start seeing more kanji I’m not familiar with.

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I do it the same way. I’m not speed running and my pace is 5 lessons a day. I’ll be hanging around for a while but it’s a great place to be :grin:

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the exact numbers vary a bit depending on the level. but my strategy is to do radicals first, then a mix of vocab (old vocab first, then new vocab) and new kanji. i definitely want to have all the old vocab finished by the time i guru the radicals, and the first set of kanji. ideally to vocab will be so low that i can do all the second wave of kanji together with the last of the initial block of vocab. then over the next 3 days my lessons are only the vocab unlocked from guruing kanji.

after level 13 the number of radicals drops considerably, and with them the number of 2nd-wave kanji. and with them the number of old vocab unlocked as you level up. i think this will streamline my process considerably ^^

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