Descent of the Durtle into Madness


#1

OK POLL PEEPS
AND NON-POLL PEEPS
We gotta solve this B3 problem and get into heaven. Talk about ideas, what the solution is, and tag the Tofugu team so we can FORCE them to tell us >:DDD
Don’t know what the heck is going on? Look closely at the image for the badge “Ghost of Crabsmas Durtle.”


Answers
Passwords are case-sensitive, beware of lowercase letters and spaces
Lobby - password
Clue: rhymes with “ass-word”
B1 - crabigators eat butts
Clue: shqrywqjehi uqj rkjji
B2 - Mrs. Chou
Clue: Find the similarity between these nine pairs
ac b7 b4
9b b5 a0
b0 b1 a1
B3 -
Clue: Collect “all four keywords” and say them in the correct order.
六乙泣競薬


[Userscript]: Part of Speech Filter (for Self-Study Quiz)
#2

Put things you’ve tried here, it’s a wiki

Achievements
First discovered the puzzle: @Naphthalene
Solved B1: many people
Solved B2: @Belthazar and @matthieuesnault
Solved B3: @Masayoshiro (first clue)

B3 notes

B3
Direct link

First Clue Solution

The number of strokes of each kanji are as follows:

Kanji Strokes
4
1
8
20
16

This very much looks like a date, i.e. April 18, 2016.

There is one article posted on Tofugu on April 18, 2016.

This article has a background image, which has changed since the article was originally posted, and here is proof.

The only difference is some of the lines of text. The new portion is here:
image

天国へ行きたかったら死から開始。

  1. AABQD010L76223CEGD72FI5DPBOJJMO+
  2. B51BIQPGS206HD
  3. 00LB269G
  4. D02315CPQAWDF0B~IL7KB1FG+A

注意!スペースも必要です。

If I want to go to heaven I will start from death.

  1. ??
  2. ??
  3. ??
  4. ??

Caution! Space is also required.

On to the next clue…

Page contents

Oh. Hello there.
So, you figured out that simple Caeser Cipher?
I suppose Rome wasn’t built in a day, ha ha.
And the Shift JIS riddle?
Talk about dated!

But, this durtle won’t be so easy on you.
You see, I believe that this isn’t a place
for Disciples of the Crabigator.
You seek spiritual ascendence
through your Lessons and Reviews.
We seek physical descendence,
and that is the key
difference between you and I.
We’re just a different type from you.

Hearing that, do you still
seek to descend deeper into Durtle Heaven?
Very well, here is your next clue:

六乙泣競薬

Be warned, this is only the first step of many.
Come back to me only when you’ve collected
all four keywords.
Say them in the correct order
and I’ll let you through.

Kanji Details

Copied (with small changes) from this post by @ctmf

Data dump from WWWJDIC: (I don’t know how recent the data is, esp. frequency)

Attribute
WaniKani Level 2 57 15 11 17
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 4F3B 3235 3563 3625 4C74
Kuten code 47-27 18-21 21-67 22-5 44-84
Shift-JIS code 985a 89b3 8b83 8ba3 96f2
Unicode 516d 4e59 6ce3 7af6 85ac
Bushu (radical no.) 8 5 85 117 140
Traditional radical 12
Grade 1 8 4 4 3
Stroke Count 4 1 8 20 16
Frequency ranking 93 1841 1380 610 702
JLPT Level N5 N1 N1 N2 N3
Classic Nelson 283 260 2532 3364 4074
New Nelson 371 56 3104 4244 5224
Halpern NJECD Index 1965 3339 338 1847 2375
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 2461 4145 396 2322 3011
Halpern KLD Index 1244 2104 253 1200 1539
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 1710 2849 300 1639 2100
Heisig index 6 71 432 434 1736
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 6 75 463 465 1873
Gakken index 20 1713 1192 609 541
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 61 2 590 2927 2568
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 8 1339 1049 464 323
Morohashi index 1453 161 17309 25831 32188PX
Morohashi vol.page 2.0045 1.0354 6.1064 8.728 9.0964
Henshall index 76 1041 838 463 398
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 8 983 1236 852 359
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 8 1017 1300 871 360
R&W Japanese 1st ed. (Sakade) Index 6 379 521
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 19 1030 678 789 247
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 6 479 487 420
Tuttle kanji card 24 1007 500 640 439
Crowley Index 124
Kanji in Context Index 6 1908 252 1020 315
Japanese For Busy People Index 1.A 2.6
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 153 25 1171 1463 672
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 6 71 439 441 1752
SKIP code 2/2/02 4/1/01 1/3/05 1/10/10 2/3/13
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 2j2.2 0a1.5 3a5.1 5b15.1 3k13.15
Four Corner code 80 1771 3011.8 21.6 4490.4
De Roo code 461 3556 373 457 1964
Pinyin reading(s) liu4 lu4 yi3 qi4 jing4 yao4
Korean reading(s) ryug eul eub gyeong yag
ON reading(s) ロク リク オツ イツ キュウ キョウ ケイ ヤク
KUN reading(s) む む.つ むっ.つ むい おと- きのと な.く きそ.う せ.る くら.べる くすり
Nanori reading(s) く むつ ろっ ろつ かい わたなべ
English meanings six the latter; duplicate; strange; witty; fishhook radical (no. 5) cry; weep; moan emulate; compete with; bid; sell at auction; bout; contest; race medicine; chemical; enamel; gunpowder; benefit
Mis-classification code SP4-2-1 PP2-10-10
Cross-reference code J0693B
Detailed Analysis

This is a breakdown of the entire text passage, section by section feel free to edit and contribute your own analysis/observations to each section

Oh. Hello there.
So, you figured out that simple Caeser Cipher?

I’m curious as to why mention the previous puzzles at all.

Keywords;
Simple, Caeser

I suppose Rome wasn’t built in a day, ha ha

If the cipher was simple, why is this Durtle using an idiom that is usually reserved for one taking their time? The first reference to something old, ancient or back in time.

Keywords;
Rome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_wasn't_built_in_a_day

Specifically, this is an adage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adage

The fact an adage is used and is something that is often “concise, memorable, and usually philosophical” and often uses memetic reptition supports the idea that part of the solution could be Yojijukugo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojijukugo

A song by Morcheeba is also the first thing to appear when searching this adage on google. doubtful it’s related, but I’ll include everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLGJXbl6g8o

.

And the Shift JIS riddle?
Talk about dated!

Another reference to age, time. Didn’t one person call this a Jiddle instead of a riddle? could be something there. The difference between J and R is 8 characters.

Keyword;
Dated
dated

/ˈdeɪtɪd/

adjective

adjective: dated

    1. marked with a date.

“a signed and dated painting”

    1. old-fashioned.

“a dated expression”

But, this durtle won’t be so easy on you.

F*ck you the last one was hard

You see, I believe that this isn’t a place
for Disciples of the Crabigator.

Telling us to look away from Wanikani? Maybe look at other popular learning resources. Disciples is capitalized here.

Keywords;
Disciples

You seek spiritual ascendence
through your Lessons and Reviews.

Ascendence could mean anything. Levels, knowledge, fluency. Lessons and Reviews are capitalized.

Keywords
Spiritual, ascendence, Lessons, Reviews.

We seek physical descendence,
and that is the key
difference between you and I.

Not sure how to split this one. There is a weird line break after ‘key’, suggesting the difference between “You” and “I”, or Ascendence and Descendence is a key to the puzzle

Keywords;
descendence, you, I

Descendence could be a clue, physical descendants could mean something that is physically derived/descendent from something else. Most people have a theory that this is something to do with the history of Kanji, the myth of Cangjie or the etymology of the Kanji provided.

Ascending and Descending is also a famous picture by M.C Escher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascending_and_Descending

We’re just a different type from you.

Keywords;
Type, different

Once again emphasizes difference. A different type could mean a different type setting, a different type of Kanji, different Japanese symbols, a different type of anything really. Here are a few resources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typesetting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_typographic_symbols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Braille

Hearing that, do you still
seek to descend deeper into Durtle Heaven?

Another weird line break here. Also, yes, of course, we freaking do! More capitalized letters.

Keywords;
Hearing, seek, descend, deeper, Durtle, Heaven

Including this simply because ‘hearing’ was used, surprisingly it’s a Tofugo article, and the first hit for “deaf in Japan”
https://www.tofugu.com/japan/japanese-sign-language/

Very well, here is your next clue:

六乙泣競薬

Full analysis has been carried out on the Kanji in other posts.
Most noticeably there ar 5 Kanji, however, our solutions requires 4 Keywords

Be warned, this is only the first step of many.

What is the first step? There is a popular saying " A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step", strengthening the idea that we could need to look at popular sayings or phrases.

Keywords;
Be, warned, first step, step
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_journey_of_a_thousand_miles_begins_with_a_single_step

Come back to me only when you’ve collected
all four keywords.

Another weird line break, most notably telling us that we need 4 keywords to solve the puzzle, which supports the idea of the answer being related to Yojijukugo.

Keywords;
Four, Keywords, collected

Say them in the correct order
and I’ll let you through.

Another odd line break, Scrap that, realised it wasn’t so odd making 3 odd line breaks in this text that I noticed. Also suggests we will need to re-order any four key-words we find. This makes a total of 24 possible permutations.

References

References
Wanikani info

Based on @Masayoshiro’s post 2892 and @rfindley’s post 2993 and @javasparrow’s post 3196

六 - Six
Alternate: –
Parts: Lid, Fins
On: ろく
Kun: む
Level: 2
Strokes: 4

Meaning Mnemonic

Just imagine a beast with a lid for a head and fins for feet, running around looking as insane as possible (really imagine it!). When it runs up to you, it shows you the top of its lid-head. On it is written the numbers 666. Why? Because it’s a spawn of the devil, and the number six is the devil’s number.

Imagine this beast doing various crazy things, the crazier the better (to help you remember). Make sure all these things are associated with the devil and the devil’s number (six), so you can remember the meaning of this kanji.

Reading Mnemonic

Whenever we need to remember the reading ろく we just use the word rock.

So, think about the devil and the devil’s number. What is often associated with those things? Why, rock (ろく) and roll is. Imagine the lid-head fin-legged beast suddenly blasting out rock music in the middle of his destructive mayhem.

Sing along with the monster, if it helps you to remember the reading of this kanji.

Vocab

Level, link, and primary meaning:
2 - 六月 (ろくがつ) June
2 - (ろく) Six
2 - 十六 (じゅうろく) Sixteen
2 - 六日 (むいか) Sixth Day
2 - 六つ (むっつ) Six Things

乙 - Latter
Alternate: B
Parts: Nose
On: おつ, いつ
Kun: おと, きのと
Level: 57
Strokes: 1

Meaning Mnemonic

Your nose isn’t the first thing people see about your face, it’s the latter. They see your eyes THEN your nose, then your mouth, in order going down. Just label them A B and C and you’ll never forget!

Imagine saying A B C as you look down someones face at their eyes, nose and mouth. Their nose is B!

Reading Mnemonic

If you don’t have any cereal you have to eat your B breakfast option. Oats (おつ). You don’t hate oats, but they’re definitely not your first choice.

Imagine running out of cereal so you have to eat your latter option of breakfast oats. They aren’t awful but they aren’t your A breakfast choice, that’s for sure.

Vocab

Level, link, and primary meaning:
57 - 甲乙 (こうおつ) A And B
57 - (おつ) Second
59 - 早乙女 (さおとめ) Rice Planting Girl

泣 - Cry
Alternate: –
Parts: Stand, Tsunami
On: きゅう
Kun: な
Level: 15
Strokes: 8

Meaning Mnemonic

If you stand in front of a tsunami, you’re going to cry. That tsunami is going to hit you hard, and rip you right off the ground on which you stand. And then you’ll cry like a little baby.

Imagine getting hit with the full force of a tsunami. It slams into you and crushes every bone in your body. It hurts so much you cry.

Reading Mnemonic

You know what else can make you cry? A Nazi (な). Nazis are mean, mean people, much worse than tsunamis. Nazis are bad news. Imagine a Nazi surfboarding on top of that tsunami that just hit you and made you cry. I imagine there’s nothing worse in this world than that.

Picture this mean Nazi riding toward you atop of this tsunami wave. Hear him screaming, “Heil!” just before the tsunami wave crashes over you. Rotten Nazi.

Vocab

Level, link, and primary meaning:
15 - 泣く (なく) To Cry
17 - 泣き虫 (なきむし) Crybaby
17 - 泣き声 (なきごえ) Crying

競 - Compete
Alternate: –
Parts: Older Brother, Stand
On: きょう
Kun: きそ
Level: 11
Strokes: 20

Meaning Mnemonic

Standing next to your older brother is another standing older brother of yours. They’re trying to compete, to see which of them can stand the straightest and tallest.

Picture your two older brothers competing like this. Are you going to root for one of them? That’s not very nice, you shouldn’t have a favorite older brother.

Reading Mnemonic

Your older brothers are trying to compete to see which of them gets to go to きょうと with you. You won a free trip to きょうと, but there’s only one other ticket, so now your brothers are competing for you.

Look really closely at your older brothers. They’re competing pretty hard for your attention. They really want to go to きょうと… but which one do YOU want to spend time with the most?

Vocab

Level, link, and primary meaning:
11 - 競争 (きょうそう) Competition
11 - 競う (きそう) To Compete
53 - 競艇 (きょうてい) Boat Race

薬 - Medicine
Alternate: drug, drugs
Parts: Flowers, Comfort
On: やく
Kun: くすり
Level: 17
Strokes: 16

Meaning Mnemonic

Flowers can be used for comfort, but also for medicine. Sure, it’s a comfort to smell flowers because they smell nice, but one can also use them as medicine to heal people.

Imagine having some medicine that smells and tastes like fresh cut flowers. Smell the smell in your nose and taste the taste on your tongue.

Reading Mnemonic

The best way to transport all the medicine on land is with a yak (やく). Yaks are big, strong, and very capable of transporting flower medicine like these.

Picture a yak in your mind. Pretend you are riding atop the yak as it transports this medicine. Feel the fur of the yak in your hands as you cling on for dear life.

Vocab

Level, link, and primary meaning:
17 - 薬用 (やくよう) Medicinal
17 - (くすり) Medicine
17 - 薬物 (やくぶつ) Medicines
17 - 薬方 (やくほう) Prescription
17 - 薬学 (やくがく) Study Of Pharmacy
28 - 妙薬 (みょうやく) Wonder Drug
29 - 眠り薬 (ねむりぐすり) Sleeping Pills
29 - 睡眠薬 (すいみんやく) Sleeping Pills
40 - 薬剤 (やくざい) Medicine
40 - 薬剤師 (やくざいし) Pharmacist

Jisho info


Link: https://jisho.org/search/六%20%23kanji
Meaning: six


Link: https://jisho.org/search/乙%20%23kanji
Meaning: the latter, duplicate, strange, witty, fishhook radical (no. 5)


Link: https://jisho.org/search/泣%20%23kanji
Meaning: cry, weep, moan


Link: https://jisho.org/search/競%20%23kanji
Meaning: emulate, compete with, bid, sell at auction, bout, contest, race


Link: https://jisho.org/search/薬%20%23kanji
Meaning: medicine, chemical, enamel, gunpowder, benefit

wwwjdic info

See http://nihongo.monash.edu/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?1B

JIS code (JIS X 0208) 4F3B
Kuten code 47-27
Shift-JIS code 985a
Unicode 516d
Bushu (radical no.) 8
Traditional radical 12
Grade 1
Stroke Count 4
Frequency ranking 93
JLPT Level 4
Classic Nelson 283
New Nelson 371
Halpern NJECD Index 1965
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 2461
Halpern KLD Index 1244
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 1710
Heisig index 6
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 6
Gakken index 20
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 61
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 8
Morohashi index 1453
Morohashi vol.page 2.0045
Henshall index 76
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 8
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 8
R&W Japanese 1st ed. (Sakade) Index 6
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 19
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 6
Tuttle kanji card 24
Crowley Index 124
Kanji in Context Index 6
Japanese For Busy People Index 1.A
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 153
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 6
SKIP code 2-2-2
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 2j2.2
Four Corner code 0080.0
De Roo code 461
Pinyin reading(s) liu4 lu4
Korean reading(s) ryug
ON reading(s) ロク リク
KUN reading(s) む む.つ むっ.つ むい
Nanori reading(s) く むつ ろっ ろつ
English meanings six
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 3235
Kuten code 18-21
Shift-JIS code 89b3
Unicode 4e59
Bushu (radical no.) 5
Grade 8
Stroke Count 1
Frequency ranking 1841
JLPT Level 1
Classic Nelson 260
New Nelson 56
Halpern NJECD Index 3339
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 4145
Halpern KLD Index 2104
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 2849
Heisig index 71
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 75
Gakken index 1713
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 2
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 1339
Morohashi index 161
Morohashi vol.page 1.0354
Henshall index 1041
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 983
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 1017
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 1030
Tuttle kanji card 1007
Kanji in Context Index 1908
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 25
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 71
SKIP code 4-1-1
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 0a1.5
Four Corner code 1771.0
De Roo code 3556
Mis-classification code SP4-2-1
Pinyin reading(s) yi3
Korean reading(s) eul
ON reading(s) オツ イツ
KUN reading(s) おと- きのと
English meanings the latter; duplicate; strange; witty; fishhook radical (no. 5)
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 3563
Kuten code 21-67
Shift-JIS code 8b83
Unicode 6ce3
Bushu (radical no.) 85
Grade 4
Stroke Count 8
Frequency ranking 1380
JLPT Level 2
Classic Nelson 2532
New Nelson 3104
Halpern NJECD Index 338
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 396
Halpern KLD Index 253
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 300
Heisig index 432
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 463
Gakken index 1192
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 590
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 1049
Morohashi index 17309
Morohashi vol.page 6.1064
Henshall index 838
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 1236
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 1300
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 678
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 479
Tuttle kanji card 500
Kanji in Context Index 252
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 1171
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 439
SKIP code 1-3-5
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 3a5.1
Four Corner code 3011.8
De Roo code 373
Pinyin reading(s) qi4
Korean reading(s) eub
ON reading(s) キュウ
KUN reading(s) な.く
English meanings cry; weep; moan
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 3625
Kuten code 22-5
Shift-JIS code 8ba3
Unicode 7af6
Bushu (radical no.) 117
Grade 4
Stroke Count 20
Frequency ranking 610
JLPT Level 2
Classic Nelson 3364
New Nelson 4244
Halpern NJECD Index 1847
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 2322
Halpern KLD Index 1200
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 1639
Heisig index 434
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 465
Gakken index 609
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 2927
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 464
Morohashi index 25831
Morohashi vol.page 8.7280
Henshall index 463
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 852
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 871
R&W Japanese 1st ed. (Sakade) Index 379
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 789
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 487
Tuttle kanji card 640
Kanji in Context Index 1020
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 1463
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 441
SKIP code 1-10-10
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 5b15.1
Four Corner code 0021.6
De Roo code 457
Mis-classification code PP2-10-10
Pinyin reading(s) jing4
Korean reading(s) gyeong
ON reading(s) キョウ ケイ
KUN reading(s) きそ.う せ.る くら.べる
Nanori reading(s) かい わたなべ
English meanings emulate; compete with; bid; sell at auction; bout; contest; race
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 4C74
Kuten code 44-84
Shift-JIS code 96f2
Unicode 85ac
Bushu (radical no.) 140
Grade 3
Stroke Count 16
Cross-reference code J0693B
Frequency ranking 702
JLPT Level 3
Classic Nelson 4074
New Nelson 5224
Halpern NJECD Index 2375
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 3011
Halpern KLD Index 1539
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 2100
Heisig index 1736
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 1873
Gakken index 541
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 2568
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 323
Morohashi index 32188PX
Morohashi vol.page 9.0964
Henshall index 398
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 359
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 360
R&W Japanese 1st ed. (Sakade) Index 521
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 247
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 420
Tuttle kanji card 439
Kanji in Context Index 315
Japanese For Busy People Index 2.6
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 672
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 1752
SKIP code 2-3-13
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 3k13.15
Four Corner code 4490.4
De Roo code 1964
Pinyin reading(s) yao4
Korean reading(s) yag
ON reading(s) ヤク
KUN reading(s) くすり
Nanori reading(s)
English meanings medicine; chemical; enamel; gunpowder; benefit

Notes
Note that the post 2823 solved B2, no post before this is related to B3

Notes
Attributes of the 5 kanji comparison
Attribute
WaniKani Level 2 57 15 11 17
ON reading(s) ロク リク オツ イツ キュウ キョウ ケイ ヤク
KUN reading(s) む む.つ むっ.つ むい おと- きのと な.く きそ.う せ.る くら.べる くすり
Nanori reading(s) く むつ ろっ ろつ かい わたなべ
English meanings six the latter; duplicate; strange; witty; fishhook radical (no. 5) cry; weep; moan emulate; compete with; bid; sell at auction; bout; contest; race medicine; chemical; enamel; gunpowder; benefit
Cangjie YC NU EYT YUYTU TIOD
JIS code (JIS X 0208) 4F3B 3235 3563 3625 4C74
Kuten code 47-27 18-21 21-67 22-5 44-84
Shift-JIS code 985a 89b3 8b83 8ba3 96f2
Unicode 516d 4e59 6ce3 7af6 85ac
Bushu (radical no.) 8 5 85 117 140
WK Radicals Six Nose Tsunami, Stand Stand, Older Brother Flowers, Comfort
Traditional radical 12
Grade 1 8 4 4 3
Stroke Count 4 1 8 20 16
Frequency ranking 93 1841 1380 610 702
JLPT Level N5 N1 N1 N2 N3
Classic Nelson 283 260 2532 3364 4074
New Nelson 371 56 3104 4244 5224
Halpern NJECD Index 1965 3339 338 1847 2375
Halpern Kodansha Kanji Dictionary Index 2461 4145 396 2322 3011
Halpern KLD Index 1244 2104 253 1200 1539
Halpern KLD (2nd edition) Index 1710 2849 300 1639 2100
Heisig index 6 71 432 434 1736
Heisig index (6th Ed.) 6 75 463 465 1873
Gakken index 20 1713 1192 609 541
O’Neill (Japanese Names) index 61 2 590 2927 2568
O’Neill’s Essential Kanji Index 8 1339 1049 464 323
Morohashi index 1453 161 17309 25831 32188PX
Morohashi vol.page 2.0045 1.0354 6.1064 8.728 9.0964
Henshall index 76 1041 838 463 398
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji index 8 983 1236 852 359
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kana & Kanji (2011 ed.) index 8 1017 1300 871 360
R&W Japanese 1st ed. (Sakade) Index 6 379 521
Japanese Kanji Flashcards, Series 1 (White Rabbit Press) 19 1030 678 789 247
R&W Japanese 3rd ed. (Henshall) Index 6 479 487 420
Tuttle kanji card 24 1007 500 640 439
Crowley Index 124
Kanji in Context Index 6 1908 252 1020 315
Japanese For Busy People Index 1.A 2.6
Kodansha Compact Kanji Guide Index 153 25 1171 1463 672
Maniette’s “Les Kanjis dans la tête” Index 6 71 439 441 1752
SKIP code 2/2/02 4/1/01 1/3/05 1/10/10 2/3/13
Spahn & Hadamitzky’s Kanji Dictionary descriptor 2j2.2 0a1.5 3a5.1 5b15.1 3k13.15
Four Corner code 80 1771 3011.8 21.6 4490.4
De Roo code 461 3556 373 457 1964
Pinyin reading(s) liu4 lu4 yi3 qi4 jing4 yao4
Korean reading(s) ryug eul eub gyeong yag
Mis-classification code SP4-2-1 PP2-10-10
Cross-reference code J0693B

[Descent of the Durtle into Madness](List of radicals in the clue Kanji, sorted in ascending order)
[Descent of the Durtle into Madness](Order of combinations to brute-force a 4-word (or 4-letter) solution)
[Descent of the Durtle into Madness](Summary of ideas from the first day of B3 guessing (12/29 - 12/30))

"Help" from Koichi - responses to questons
(all included in case he said something significant nobody noticed)

List of responses

Concept ideas

Concepts
Cangjie inpjut
Theory

Every hint seems to point towards looking at the past of Kanji and turning away from WK

You see, I believe that this isn’t a place
for Disciples of the Crabigator.

The earliest point of Origin for written Kanji, after Bone Script was Cangjie, a legendary figure that had four eyes there are 4 keywords in the hint and eight irises.

When trying to derive a writing system, a phoenix dropped an object at his foot with a hoofprint of a Pixiu, which became the inspriation for Kanji.

This mirrors the hint

You seek spiritual ascendence
through your Lessons and Reviews.
We seek physical descendence

Whilst Cangjie sough enlightenment, something physical dropped before his feet from the sky.

Why is this important? Well, Cangjie has an input method named after him! Considering the previous clue used shift-JIS, I think this input method is a good starting point. It also tends to use up to 4 keys to input characters.

Cangjie input

The Cangjie input method ( Tsang-chieh input method , sometimes also Changjie , Cang Jie , or Changjei [1]) is a system by which Chinese characters may be entered into a computer using a standard keyboard. Invented in 1976 by Chu Bong-Foo, the method is named after Cangjie (Tsang-chieh), the mythological inventor of the Chinese writing system; the name was suggested by Chiang Wei-kuo, then Defence Minister of Taiwan. Although the input method was initially based upon traditional Chinese characters, it has since been revamped so that Cangjie and the simplified Chinese character set can interact.

Considering the previous clue used shift-JIS, I think this input method is a good starting point. It also tends to use up to 4 keys to input characters.

Cangjie codes

The key words “you” and “I” show up quite a lot in the text

seek physical descendence,
that is the key
difference
between you and I

So the following theory was put forward to use this as a subtraction cipher to subtract the keys y,u,i and possibly o from the Cangjie codes using the keywords “descend” and “difference” to support this logic.

Unfortunately these codes are very non-specific, and give many other possible kanji ‘C’ gives over 50 possible kanji, so I have simply tabulated the first options given. We need to do something else to these codes to narrow down which kanji we should actually be focusing on

Alternatively, this was an interesting development;

Tools

Keyboard
A virtual Cangjie input keyboard can be found here to test your solutions - Cangjie keyboard

Yojijukugo

Theory

Come back to me only when you’ve collected
all four keywords.

Yojijukugo is a Japanese expression consisting of four kanji, which could be linked to the four keywords.
It could be the last step of the riddle if we can go from 4 kanjis to an english expression.

The hint also uses some famous sayings (Rome built in a day, talk about dated, …) that can lead to Yojijukugo.

See these articles for examples of Yojijukugo, or further explanation.
Tofugu article
Wikipedia article

Against this theory, the hint seems to suggest we’re looking for four separate words to then need to assemble into the right order.

Attempts

Tools

https://yoji.jitenon.jp/ A Yojijukugo lookup dictionary (all in Japanese)


B2 notes

Direct link

Page contents

Hey! Don’t scare me like that.
I’ve got 91 things to worry about,
and you’re just another one.
Not to mention, I’ve got a new boss…
She’s changing everything around,
and I don’t like her at all.
Speaking of mean things worth worrying about,
here is your clue for the password to B3.

ac b7 b4
9b b5 a0
b0 b1 a1

If you can figure out what these nine pairs have in common
you may be able to descend to continue your descent.

Solution (spoiler)
  • Add 1 to 91 since there is one more problem
  • Prefix each pair by 92

    92ac 92b7 92b4
    929b 92b5 92a0
    92b0 92b1 92a1

  • Lookup the kanjis using Shift JIS

    町 長 超
    兆 跳 帳
    腸 蝶 庁

  • All these kanjis have チョウ as their on’yomi.
  • Wanikani uses “Mrs. Chou” as the mnemonic for チョウ
  • “Mrs. Chou” is the password
Technical explanations of the solution

See Post 2884 by @Belthazar

  • Computers use bits (0 and 1) to represent anything.
  • Multiple bits together form a number in binary (base 2).
  • Hexadecimal (base 16) is used to represent binary numbers in a more concise way.
  • To represent text, computers use numbers and an encoding for the mapping between numbers and characters:
    • ASCII is a very old charset, but only covers english letters (and punctuation, and special characters)
    • Nowadays Unicode is used to cover basically everything, which is very convenient
    • Before Unicode, Shift JIS was used in Japan to represent the japanese language (katakana, hiragana, kanji, punctuation)
  • The 9 pairs of characters are all valid hexadecimal numbers, which led to conversions using several charsets until the good answer using Shift JIS

Concept ideas

List of ideas

They’re hex codes

  • For colors
  • For ascii characters
  • For unicode characters
  • For Shift JIS characters (but one invalid value; also made no sense)
  • Compared bit patterns (even ones, odd ones, etc) (no luck)

They’re hex codes that need to be changed to:

  • decimal (not seeing a pattern there)
  • octal (there either)
  • binary (same)

They’re unicode hex codes part of set 91 (credit to @Oyashiro) :

  • combine 91 with each of the pairs in the B2 clue to get:
    %91ac %91b7 %91b4
    %919b %91b5 %91a0
    %91b0 %91b1 %91a1

  • These Unicode values then convert to the following chars (not all are Japanese):
    醬醷醴
    醛醵醠
    醰醱醡

  • Alternately, trying the above with 92 instead of 91:
    銬銷銴
    銛銵銠
    銰銱銡

They’re related to HHG (based on previous hints)
They’re related to WaniKani somehow (pages, kanji, radicals, TOS, etc.)
They’re related to Japan (highway numbers, train stops, )
They’re related to Portland (where Tofugu is) (unlikely)
Related to butts (re: the first two passwords)
Related to Christmas
Grid coordinates for something (but ac and 9b don’t follow pattern)
Any of those things, but there’s some manipulation first (reversed, shifted, etc) (based on the ‘changing things around’ text)
Something related to the 91 in the text (which was 99 problems in the famous song)
Physical shape (a, b, 9, 4 sort of) look like the same thing rotated/flipped)
They could be part of an url?(The page url for b2 starts with “b4” which is in the square)

"Help" from Koichi - responses to questons
(all included in case he said something significant nobody noticed)

List of responses

Also, CyrusS knows something.

Passwords tried (some)

List of passwords

hex
number
numbers
letter
letters
hexadecimal
hexadecimal number
a
g
9
shape
All variations of 42 and 42+
Tis-100
Box
Durtle
Password
Pass to b3
Code to b3
B2
Square
Nothing
Key to b3
Level
Floor
Storey
colors
radicals
unicode
Symbol
Symbols
White
Black
Space
API
Public Api
RSAencryption
Kristen
Kanae
Every number from 0 to 101
155
notes
musical notes
character
Ipv6
paper size
japanese paper size
ascii
ascii extended characters
Hint to b3
Hint
Descend
Descent
Descending
Pass
Encryption
Matrix
Math
stellar sequence
stars
star sequence
Christmas
Christmas hint
Christmas riddle
magenta
green
cmyk
durtle color
durtle green
durtle shell
green shade
hex colors
colors
hexadecimal colors
durty butthole
sake
sake radical
osake
nihonshu
alcohol
alcohol radical
gold
gold radical
metal
metal radical
booze
beer
nothing
satan
shiritori
level61
level 61
next level
paradise
paradiso

bitch (hey, worth a try)

kin
king
shu
kane
okane
sake
a2a4a5a6a7
shell colors
shell color
alphanumeric pairs
turtle shell colors
durtle butt
kanji
musical notes
intervals

Contributions from individual members (to easily see all thing proposed by one person)

@HealyHQ

All theories combined in this post

@greywillfade
  • Post 504 - Whether the hex codes (horizontal, greens and greys) were associated with the colours in a common durtle badge.
  • Post 751 - Tenuous link between terminology in reviews and the grid (Answered Correctly/ac, b4/burned 4, a1/apprentice 1). Doesn’t fully fit the pattern.
  • Post 1147 - Swapping the numbers for their l337 speak equivalent.
  • Post 1219 - Trying 42 in front of the grid elements to see if there are common radicals with the unicode (e.g. U+42ac). Trying the grid elements in reverse to do this.
@Belthazar
  • In UTF-8 encoding, these hex numbers are all “continuation bytes”.
  • In Shift-JIS it’s basically nonsense: ャキエ峽?ーア。
  • They’re all hexadecimal numbers.
  • They’re all hexadecimal numbers that contain either an A or a B.
  • More of a magic square than a sudoku. It’s not a magic square, though.
  • The existence of AC throws the spanner in any grid-reference-based theory.
  • (In answer to a question) The font is called Arvo, part of the Google font family.
  • (In answer to “is there a pear kanji?”) It’s 梨. Taught at level 44.
@cybershark
  • Post 140 - Converting to decimal and ASCII
@JavaSparrow
  • Post 24 - Passwords are case-sensitive, likely lowercase.
  • Post 72 - Bolded outliers ac and 9b, does table sequence matter?
  • Post 95 - 92 cipher/wire signal, other possibilities: chess? battleship? coordinates?
  • Post 109 - Factors and divisors of 91 and 92.
  • Post 148 - Converting to color hexes (rows)
  • Post 162 - Converting to color hexes (columns)
  • Post 205 - Since butts were involved for b1 and b2, could they also be involved in b3?
  • Post 246 - Unicode with 92 prefix (see post 235 by @Oyashiro)
  • Post 270 - Could the values be bit addresses? Google book for reference.
  • Post 295 - Recap of many theories: sudoku, poetry rules, date conversion, bit addresses, color hexes, troll answers, page source code, looking at durtle black market and harbinger badge for clues.
  • Post 440 - The values are the password but scrambled, possibly 9-character or 18-character result.
  • Post 1746 - Could 91 be considered a tenth pair? Could Koichi’s clues be referencing time, timezone, time travel, travel, or Japan?
  • Post 1750 - Bit address diagram for reference.
  • Post 2128 - Could regular durtle’s disciplinary post in fact be a hint? Witchcraft = hexes, stop with the hexes? (Hexes maybe aren’t involved in solution.)
@RysingDragon
  • Post 185 - Finding a search page
@Krispy
  • Post 204 - Conversion to numbers and reversed
  • Post 251 - Bolding interesting bits in the text before the hint
  • Post 253 / 259 - Using the kanjis for new, boss, etc
  • Post 795 - Pairs might be references to reviews items
@ctmf
  • Post 210 - Substracting 8 from everything
  • Post 226 - Keys on a Qwerty keyboard
  • Post 477 - There is no duplicate (like aa or 11) in the pairs
  • Post 907 - Using Jisho on kanjis obtained by unicode with 91 prefix (see post 235 by Oyashiro)
  • Post 911 - Conversion to decimal to lookup kangxi radicals
  • Post 932 - Plotting the decimal values
@TheMusicalNinja
  • Post 219 - Members of Tofugu
@rumade
  • Post 232 - Making each pair into words
@Oyashiro
  • Post 235 - Unicode with 91 prefix
  • Post 480 - Indexing posts in the content overhaul thread
@Kyasurin
  • Post 277 - IATA codes
@Kumirei
  • Post 286 - Closest answer yet
@banira
  • Post 321 - Conversion to binary
@Naphthalene
  • Post 334 - Discussion about badges added manually
@Masayoshiro
  • Post 378 - Indexing the text before the hint using the pairs
  • Post 924 - Base 13 is a H2G2 reference
@emucat
  • Post 381 - Indexing the text before the hint using the pairs (see post 378 by @Masayoshiro)
  • Post 824 - A kanji/radical of the level 16 modified by the content overhaul
@Toyger
  • Post 401 - Koichi’s poll
@Darcinon
  • Post 473 - Indexing the text before the hint using the pairs
  • Post 890 - Conversions to base 13
@DontWorryAboutIt
  • Post 507 - Stroke counts in the kanji found by the Unicode method, then converting to ascii (decimal, hex, base64)
  • Post 1105 - Assuming the 9 pairs translate directly into the password after alterations are made, and that “91” and “she’s changing everything around” are both hints, and are the only hints, there are a few possibilities:
    1. 91 is supposed to be used as some type of key to transform the pairs, which are shuffled either before or after the transformation
    2. 91 is a clue on how to shuffle the pairs, which then results in something easily translatable into the password (i.e. standard hex)
    3. The pairs correspond somehow to letters in a body of text, to which 91 is a reference, which are then shuffled to make the password
  • Post 2197 - A Vigenere cipher using key NINETYONE was used on the pairs with multiple variations on the method, not resulting in anything substantial
@Tyger
  • Post 508 - Using the mean of the values, the mean of each value, and converting to hexadecimal
@saruko
  • Post 930 - using the base 13 values of the pairs, taking the corresponding letter from the text above the box
  • Post 940 - let each letter and number stand for one radical, to build the 9 pairs into 9 kanji
  • Post 2089 - something to do with a towel? (HG2G reference)
  • Post 2091 - using a=1, b=2, c=3, convert the nine pairs to two digit numbers and find the mean value
@Lear
  • Post 1121 - Convert clue to kanjis, trying to make any sense out of a sentence
  • Post 1159 - Could we have a “seven deadly sins” theme?
@jsroberts92
  • Post 518 - References to B2 and HGG in the lobby text
  • Post 788 - 箱 is a level 16 kanji, 16 upside down is 91
  • Post 818 - Use Kristen as a cipher key
@seanblue
  • Post 519 - Base 60 and 91
  • Post 798 - Pairs are references to kanjis (AC is 172. So level 17, kanji #2)
@Kutsushokunin
  • Post 889 - Idea of using base 13
  • Post 897 - Base 13 conversion indexing a pokemon (and so on)
@cgsmith2
  • Post 891 - Size of sheets (like A4, A5)
@Glias

Post 1242

  • “make like your review pile”
  • Kristen and 92 are not clues
  • if there is swapping, it is within the pair and not among pairs
  • “mean” is probably not significant
  • descending…
@KingJMS1
  • Post 923 - General consideration about the number 9 and treating each character of the pair separately
@Saruko
  • Post 930 - Assigning a number to each character in the text preceding the box, then taking the nine characters that correspond to those base 13 numbers inside the box
@hachiken
  • Post 938 - Subtracting 42 from everything
@konekush
  • Post 939 - Mentioning musical notation

B1 notes

Direct link

Page contents

Whoa, where did you come from?
You want to descend further into Durtle Heaven?
Alright, I’m supposed to hand you one of these
pieces of, uh, scripture.

shqrywqjehi uqj rkjji

Good luck with that, then.

Solution
  • The text is encrypted using a caesar cipher

  • Reversing the encryption yields “crabigators eat butts”


Lobby

Direct link

Page contents

Oh hello. Welcome to Durtle Heaven™.
It truly is a Crabsmas miracle you came here today.
You wish to descend into Durtle Heaven?
That’s fine with me.
I’m a pretty apathetic durtle.
But, deeper durtles won’t be so easy.
They will surely test you with their difficult jiddles.
I’ve never gone deeper than B2,
so my only advice is this:
If you run into any trouble,
make like your Review pile and don’t panic.
That is the most important thing.

Well, in you go.
The password to get to B1 is quite easy.
It, uh, rhymes with “ass-word.”

Solution

Literally “password”


Access

Look closely at the image for the badge “Ghost of Crabsmas Durtle.”

Solution


Other

An unknown, brand-new user by the name of @a-regular-durtle created the following thread that seems related to this overall puzzle (you can purchase a durtle badge for $1):
https://community.wanikani.com/t/come-one-come-all-to-durtle-heaven/34319


#3

Lets do this :triumph:


#4

I have no idea what this is about but looking at the html code reveals quite a lot.


#5


#6

We should probably standardize what kind of hint we want to give people who don’t know what’s going on. I suggest 'Look at the crabsmas durtle really closely", and then if they join us in the B2 problem, welcome.


#7

Agreed
Should @TheMusicalNinja remove the link?


#8

Let’s make sure to blur passwords, so people that want to do it for themselves aren’t spoiled!!


#9

Already done

ON IT :+1:t4:


#10

Should we really give out the passwords? I don’t like this


#11

Lame. :roll_eyes:


#12

Well, it‘s blurred at least :man_shrugging:


#14

If people get really stuck I think it would be kinda unfair to keep it to ourselves


#15

A visual of where we’re at :durtle_the_explorer:


#16

did you really just draw this

giiiiiirl


#17

What’s unfair is giving people a shortcut


#18

You don’t have to look at the shortcut. It’s blurred out.


#19

Of course not! I found it on Google images, what a coincidence


#20

Wait … are we actually getting lower and lower into hell


#21

… no… it’s Durtle Heaven… shhhhh