Daily Schedule For Consistency and Retention: Exactly 14 days per level and about 10 lessons per day

I want to do something similar to this schedule, though I’m in the long levels now and I have way more radicals and kanji, that will make it hard to do a lot of them in the same session (for example I’m having almost 40 radicals so only one batch is already 20 in one day, same with the radicals, all at the same time will lead close to 30, I guess for me it’ll be still 2 days for radicals and 2 days for each set of kanji.

i just reset from 34 to 33 after spending 44 days on it (am 9 days average like you were as well) because my brain just suddenly refused to intake more info.

i’m gonna aim for a 14 day level up after this fiasco as well.

thanks for sharing the details of your plan.

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I’ve been trying to schedule my next level (level 5, leveling up in 2 days from now, level 4 has taken like 24 days :rofl:, to be fair about 7 of them were finishing level 3 vocabulary) following the pattern but I’m thinking that if by sunday you have 100 lessons left that would make it 20 lessons a day to start doing the radicals on friday, right? Level 5 is pretty much a nightmare in number of lessons, with almost 200, so it’ll take me like 20 days again (which I don’t really have a trouble with, I’m just playing around with a comfortable but still efficient schedule).

Wow. I had forgotten that some of the early levels have so many total lessons! I think at that time I was probably doing about 20 lessons per day. But go at a pace that works for you when there are so many. The number of lessons decreases quite a bit in the later levels.

By the way, the reason that 100 lessons remaining at the end of Sunday works is that after leveling up those lessons are mix of previous level and current level, so usually about 40 of those are from the previous level. Once you get through the 40 over the next 4 days, then you’ll see the radicals from the current level on Friday. Of course the counts vary, but it’s been relatively stable from levels 30 to 44. But you can actually look up how many lessons from the former level are still in there by going to the Levels page for the former level and counting how many vocabulary are still marked as new. Since I usually don’t feel like counting all the items each time, I just estimate.

For example: today (Saturday) I leveled up to Level 44. And now I have 138 lessons. Knowing that doing 10 on Saturday and Sunday will only get me to 118, I decided that I’ll do 15 lessons per day for 4 days. That should get me through the remaining vocabulary lessons from Level 43 and then I’ll start the Level 44 radicals on Friday. Hooray!

That sounds very familiar!

As an example of how I’ve adjusted recently, I took an extra week recently on Level 41. My daily review counts had increased and I was struggling with a lot of the older items were coming up. So I only did reviews for that week and that helped lower the number of Guru items quite a bit. I think the Guru count when from almost 500 to about 350 or so. That really lowered the pressure.

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I understand now. I’ll be playing around with the schedule to see what works better.

Sorry, this is my first ever post but I came across your post by searching and I’m really interested in this ‘two week’ model. One thing I’m not getting is… you’ve mentioned where you blast the radical lessons (the first day/Friday) and then Kanji group two (day 5/Tuesday) but when do you do the kanji group one lessons? And what do you mean by ‘standard’?

Thank you so much if you’re able to reply, I know I’m a few months late :sweat_smile:

Hi! And welcome to the community. Happy to explain.

The way that the lessons are ordered, as soon as you finish the lessons for the radicals, the kanji for the current level come next. So you’ll automatically start doing the kanji lessons as you do your 10 lessons for the day. Those are the “kanji group one”, which are the unlocked set that you see on the dashboard when you start a new level. The locked set of kanji on the dashboard is what I’m referring to as “kanji group two”. And “locked” just means that even if you did all the available lessons in one sitting, these locked kanji would not be available yet. These unlock after you guru the radicals in the level. So that’s why I call out the radicals in the schedule to mark on which day they go from apprentice to guru.

By “standard” I mean that you would do a set of 10 lessons in the afternoon and then review those 4 hours later. I do my 10 lessons in the 5pm hour so I can review them in the 9pm hour.

And on every day, I try to do most of my reviews first thing in the morning (or at least after I’ve had my first cup of coffee).

One more thing that I should have mentioned in the original post: Some of the early levels have a lot more items, too many in fact to learn 10 lessons per day and still level up every 2 weeks. My advice would be to feel it out and go at a pace that works for you. It’s reasonable in my opinion to stay at 10 a day and take longer on the earlier levels so that 1) you don’t burn out and 2) you don’t have a huge bunch of reviews whenever they come due.

Does that help? Let me know if you have any more questions.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much! I’ve just come back to WK after a long way away, though my first attempt didn’t get me very far (barely unlocked level 2). I’m starting over and taking a fresh look at how the SRS system works and how to create a good schedule/routine for myself.

I’ve seen other posts about schedules, but yours has been the only one that has made sense to me! I’d like to spend between 10 - 14 days per level, and it seems like 14 days would be best for me given my work schedule. I’m thinking about doing lessons in the morning, reviewing those during my lunch break, and then having another review session before sleeping:

8 - 9 a.m. - 10 morning lessons
12 - 1 p.m. - review of morning items during lunch + 10 new lessons
5 - 6 p.m. - review of afternoon items

So far, I’ve just been doing reviews as they pop up, and doing no more than 10 lessons a day. I restarted with level 1 6 days ago, and a script I installed says I can expect to reach level 2 in 5 to 6 days. I’m looking forward to trying out this schedule when I unlock level 2!

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Makes sense to me. I think that could work. Especially if it fits your daily schedule. Let us know how it goes!

This is close to the schedule I am using right now, only I do the lessons right after my reviews. I still get less than 100 reviews a day. Based on your schedule and at your level, how many reviews do you get per day? Is it more than 100? Because if it is, I may have to go even slower when I reach your level. I don’t want to do more than 100 reviews a day.

(I recently reset WaniKani from somewhere in the 20s because I was on vacation mode for over a year and I couldn’t remember anything.)

I am using a similar schedule and I have found it really useful.

Coming into this year I set myself a goal of doing 24 levels this year, which is pretty close to 14 days/level. I am happy to say that I’ve this is now the longest continuous period of time that I’ve stayed on WK since joining almost 4 years ago. I’ve achieved nearly a third of my levels during this stretch.

My schedule for anyone who is interested:

  • During my morning routine getting ready for work - Do reviews
    Commute to work - do 10 lessons
  • Lunch break - do reviews (This is almost always only the reviews that I did on my commute so it is super manageable to knock out during lunch)
  • Commute home - do another 10 lessons
  • Night - do my last batch of reviews for the day.

I find doing it this way that I achieve 0 new lessons/0 reviews at least once per level. Also, because I only do reviews at set times I am worrying less about things and my reviews are just about always at the same times every day. Also worth noting in my schedule is that I use Wednesdays as my “break day” and I never do any lessons on those days. Just gives me a day to relax a bit since I find learning new stuff more strenuous than reviewing.

I think in general though the most important thing is to keep a schedule and get consistent whether you are going fast, slow or somewhere in between. What works for one person won’t necessarily work for another because there life schedules are drastically different.

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I’m in agreement with you 100 reviews per day is a challenging but doable number. I think I get slightly more than 100 reviews a day but pretty close. Tomorrow looks like 107.

Usually, if I keep my Guru items between 300-350, then the reviews are in this range. Right now I have 346 Guru and 47 Apprentice.

A few levels back my Guru items had ballooned up to almost 500 and the daily reviews were too much. So I took an extra week and just did reviews, bringing the Guru items down.

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Absolutely right. As you said, once you figured out a consistent schedule that fits in with your life, you were able to stick with it for the longest period yet. That’s awesome.

@zurt That was super helpful, thank you!

So just to clarify - using your above schedule, you just hammer through all the radicals regardless of how many on the Friday, and… on the Saturday do ten lessons of the kanji (group 1) and continue with ten new lessons each day until Tuesday? But then on Tuesday it says “learn all kanji in the unlocked set” - does that mean that’s the plan for the next few days a la ten lessons a day, or hammer through all the new kanji in one day and then vocab as ten lessons a day afterward?

So I guess I’m a bit confused about whether you learn all the radicals and each group of kanji in one day, and then the ten daily lessons are vocab, or if you do all the radicals at once (which is doable) and then only learn ten kanji a day after this?

Sorry if you’ve explained this already :see_no_evil:

@zurt oh and sorry, one more thing - is this schedule assuming you don’t make any mistakes in your reviews? :see_no_evil:

In the lower levels, there are more radicals per lesson and more kanji are unlocked after guruing those radicals. Later on, you often just have ~5 radicals and unlock maybe 6-8 kanji by guruing the radicals, so it becomes more managable to tackle them in one go :+1:

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That’s right. This works well for the later levels since the number of radicals per level is less than 10.

But… since the number of radicals is much bigger in levels 1-10 (34 in Level 2! 33 in Level 4!!!), I think most people will want to break the radical lessons up into multiple days. So then the level would probably take longer than 2 weeks. But that’s completely okay! Because establishing the habit is most important at the beginning. Later on the schedule will align easier.

Once the radicals per level are 10 or less, on Friday I would just stop after learning all the radicals. Usually, since the lessons are in batches of 5 (by default, but you can change this in settings), a handful of kanji might appear in the lessons so I just do those because it doesn’t hurt.

And then when the second set of kanji opens up on Tuesday, the second set of kanji is generally less than 10 (at least as far back as I can remember), so you can do all the new kanji lessons.

Fortunately this schedule works even if you make mistakes. I certainly make plenty of mistakes. With regard to how the mistakes affect the schedule, there’s a lot of little details. Here are a few:

  • Each radical that you guru unlocks 1 or more kanji in the second set. So you can make mistakes on radicals.
  • In the first set of kanji, because they don’t unlock anything, you can make mistakes and you’ll have time to review them again without slipping the schedule.
  • In the second set of kanji, because in most levels you need to guru a certain number of these, you can makes mistakes on a few. (“Fast” levels are the exception but they don’t appear until you’re above level 40)
  • But here’s the simple rule: to level up, for the number kanji that are in the level, you must guru that number minus 3. So if there are 33 kanji in the level, you must guru 30 of them to level up.
  • That means that once you start the second set of kanji on Tuesday, you can make mistakes on 3 kanji and still level up on Saturday.

But overall, even if mistakes push back the day that you level up, the 2 weeks schedule has plenty of extra days between when you level up and when you start the radicals for the new level. So as long as you keep doing the remaining vocabulary in 10 lessons per day, it should be possible to stay on schedule.

Last point though: it’s more important to stick with the 10 lessons per day habit than to force the schedule to align with the 2 weeks. In fact, if someone were to ask “What’s the simplest schedule to stay consistent with WaniKani?” My answer would be:

  • Just do 10 lessons per day every day.
  • Do all of your reviews every day.
  • But if the number of reviews becomes too many, then take a break from lessons until the number of reviews per day is manageable again.
  • Then continue this until you’ve gone through all the levels.
  • And don’t worry about how long it takes.
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Thanks for the tip. I’ll know what to do when I reach the higher levels now.

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