Currently Reading: 10 Minute Biographies (2nd Grade Reader) // Absolute Beginners Book Club

I remember how difficult or let’s say challenging just one page was for me in the beginning with naze. So I was glad that it was usually just 2-4 sentences for a day and not more than that.

I can handle more now as I got kind of used to it, so I wouldn’t mind two pages a day. But if we really want to keep it absolute beginner friendly… I’m not sure? I’d still suggest to go with 1 page a day and maybe go with a faster speed later on.

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Yeah, I was thinking that too, 1 first month or so, then 2, since it is always harder at first =)
And we can vote as we go, see how people feel at the time

Another possible plan would be to read one page a day for the first half of the book (or however much), then split it off into its own book club for those who want to continue (possibly at a faster pace?) and move the ABBC on to another book. Since it’s a bunch of short stories, etc., it would probably be easy to find a spot to stop reading it as part of the ABBC and spin it off.

That way, the entire book gets read, but the ABBC can continue on, since I suspect that, even though it would certainly be possible, brand new readers are going to be hesitant to jump into the middle of a club that’s been going on for months.

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I think the issue comes from not having a definition of “Beginner” and “Absolute Beginner.” Would it be around N5/Genki 1 grammar, N4/Genki 2 grammar? N5 kanji, 1st/2nd grade kanji, Level 10 Wanikani kanji? Kanji density? Everyday vocab vs. Some business vocab vs. Romance vocab vs. Specialized/Technical vocab? Manga pictures to help? Illustrated book pictures to help? No pictures to help? Everyone’s using their own definition so our reactions are all over the place.

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All of those are hard to put a specific limit on. Especially when doing native material.
Any native material, even meant for children, will include grammar from every level, since they naturally know it. We can’t pin point it any more than “absolute beginner of reading native material”.

Minimum needed to join is also hard to say, since people use different methods and sources to learn.
All we can do is provide example pages and let people try it for themselves.

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If you only choose books/manga with furigana the number of kanji doesn’t matter.

Also, maybe it’s not in the right place, but the Master List of Book Clubs mentions this club being N5, Beginner Book Club being N4, and Intermediate Book Club being N3. But as @Toyger said, it’s really hard to define more specifically.

That’s what averages are for… If a book has a 2.5/5 and another has 3.5/5, you should be able to say with some confidence that the first is easier.

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Looks at ハルヒ’s score :eyes:

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Shh! That’s because people didn’t actually read the sample. :sweat_smile:

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Hello, I’d like to join the book club.

Can someone please tell me how do I join?

I had joined one before and failed to keep up so I’ll try to join this one, the other one has a discord server where people read/discusses the story, is this one the same?

Easy:

  1. Buy the book.
  2. Read the book.
  3. (Optional, but extremely preferable) Post questions, thoughts or other comments in the book’s thread.
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Yes, I definitely think one page per day. This is the Absolute Beginners Bookclub after all. There’s no problem doing another book at the same time for those who don’t like the book / pace.

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I was excited to join this group because I thought it was for people who were absolute beginners at reading. Can you confirm the part about the club being only for native material? i.e. for people who can already read?

I’d say that the minimum requirement would be the ability to read hiragana. When I started reading with a bookclub here two years ago I had little more than that. Of course, the more grammar you have, the easier things will be, but this is also a place to learn that. Kanji knowledge is actually not required because any book in the ABBC will have furigana. So, yes, I’d say this club is for people who are absolute beginners wanting to read native material.

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Oh hey I just realised I already actually own 10分で読める物語 二年生.
Or re-remembered, because I think I said the same thing during the last poll.
I’ll probably join if it wins, considering I already accidentally finished 結婚しても恋してる.
Though I’m not exactly keen on it, it’ll at least stop me from reading ahead.

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Out of honest curiosity, what would you suggest we read aside from native material? Textbooks?

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Nooooooooooo!:face_vomiting: Aaaargghh! :woozy_face:
I couldn’t think of anything worse! :nauseated_face:

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Graded readers?

I was wondering the same thing though…

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Some textbooks are just reading, with some questions on the side to make sure you understood it all.

Not really fair to generalize all textbooks as bad. :blush:

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How about other works written in Japanese? Aesop 's fables might be familiar enough to an absolutely new reader to serve as a bridge in the translation process.

Weeelll. By pure coincidence, my own nomination to this very book club just so happens to have Aesop’s Fables in Japanese. :slightly_smiling_face:

Tragically, it’s not doing so great in the current poll…

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