Can we have a "ooops, made a typo" feature?

Which dev is working on it?

It’s a joke… Wanikani won’t add a typo feature ever, but there is a joke about how the summary page was gone for 19 days or so, and it never got reinstated, but the title of the thread stayed the same and so we are in a perpetual state of 19 days waiting for features to be implemented/ returned

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I also make some typos sometimes and its almost entirely due to trying to complete my words too quickly. I think its fair to assume that if I slowed down just a teensy bit and just trusted my gut feeling I should be able to accurately and properly get a word down correctly. After all, there is no pressure to hit the submit button.

Because ultimately what ive seen is that I will get a word right or wrong and if I get it right its because I trusted my intuition and knowledge on the word. So therefore my opinion is that a typo feature would be abused and people would be worse off for it. Oh I was just 90% of the way. I will give myself credit for it.

Here it is either you know it or not. I’m also not entirely sure people are doing the lessons properly, for example opening the dictionary in one place and having the lessons open elsewhere. It should be done the right way strait through, no peeking, no cheating. I even consider looking at the meaning and pronunciation when you get one or the other wrong to be self defeating.

You certainly can slow down and be more careful. Personally, my normal typing speed is fast, and that comes with occasional errors I go back and fix. Nowhere but here would I be required to lock in the word as is permanently as soon as I hit space so it’s not my habit, y’know? Thus I don’t view it as going TOO quickly, just going quickly (positive). So when I used Wanikani I used a script to undo typos and weird glosses, and pretty soon switched to full-blown Anki mode (no typing at all, just marking myself right or wrong). I could’ve done it as you said, but to me, that’d be making every single review slower, and I’d need a pretty good reason to justify that.

But more importantly, I don’t really have a reason to try to make you stop adhering to typos failing your reviews if you like it. If something you’re doing means enough to you to make posts on the forums “defending” it, unless it’s really awful I’d probably support you and anyone else continuing because it’ll still make the learning process feel good to you.

The reason I got involved in the thread earlier on, though, is because Japanese learners are commonly learning a new language for the first time, and there’s a lot of fear and uncertainty stoked among newcomers. May not be you specifically, dunno, but a lot of the worry about “cheating” feels like it comes from that place. Like people think if they don’t take on the strictest self-discipline, if they don’t feed the SRS the exact right inputs, they aren’t going to learn. And that’s what I try to dissuade by letting people here know that I’ve learned Japanese pretty well now, and I did lots of stuff during WK and now on Anki that people here would call self-sabotage. You just need to be ready to read these words, so the belief that I don’t need to know them perfectly because I’ll see them all the time after was my guiding principle. As long as there’s genuine effort to engage with the material, it’ll work out in the end.

All that to say, do what works for you, just make sure you don’t get so hard on yourself it stifles the fun and ease out of it. At this point my biggest piece of learning advice for anyone – well if they’re not at the point that they know this, absolute #1 will be that you have to be engaging with the real language, or working towards being able to do that, there’s no other way to truly learn it. But close behind, the best thing anyone can be told imo is that while it takes a lot of time, language learning is truly easy to do. If you keep showing up and engaging with it, you borderline cannot fail. And taking pressure off yourself makes it easier to continue showing up.

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I am not entirely sure people here are using the same definition of “typo.” Some people seem to be using it to mean any wrong answer?

Like, I keep answering “slimate” recently. It’s within typo allowance so it’s whatever. I don’t need to slow down and make sure I hit the c instead of the s, because there’s no knowledge misunderstanding. I am aware the climate is not made of slime. My fingers just consistently hit the wrong letter, like all the times I proof read a comment and realise I’ve added a k to now.

Typos are not a misunderstanding of the language you’re learning, they’re a typing issue.

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I am sure looking up is ok, just no need to convert to right or something after looking up.

If anything, cross referencing should be encouraged. Don’t put too much trust in one source (which is relatively stagnant). Also looking from grammatical and idiomatic usage perspectives.

At least, it’s better than flatly Show Info, imo.

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Worse being hitting the enter button instead of the back button. So I know what was typed is wrong, as I’m trying to correct it.

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The vanilla cheat is to just back out of your reviews, back to the dashboard, and start again, before completing the two halves of that item and getting a red “level down” on it.

You’ll take a small punishment in the form of 1~9 items’ temporary progress, without any real damage to your stats.

I don’t want any “punishment” for doing wanikani on my phone during comute. Not when it can easily be fix by an OPTION.

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Ah, well, better look into how to get custom scripts and mods to work on a phone then. WK’s team has been solidly opposed to this request for around a decade, now.

On the other hand, if Bunpro (app vaguely similar to WK but for grammar) is part of your planned Japanese learning stack, you can very liberally undo any mistake without any limitation on it.

Then I might just call it a loss and drop wanikani altogether if I have to resort to these walkarounds. What was the point of buying a service if you have to resort to third party to make it usable?

If I had know how much trouble that lack of such a simple option would be, I wouldn’t have subscribed.

More time to use services that actually care.

Sure, if it doesn’t fit, it doesn’t fit.
I see your purple thingy, so I know you got Lifetime at either $300 or $200 during a sale. I know I’d be in full on sunk cost mode and keep plowing even if I hated it.
If you really feel like dropping WK early, maybe there’s a way for you to email support and ask to be pulled out and get some kind of refund? Absolutely no promises, but I know the staff are made of actual humans and usually respond to inquiries and stuff without forcing you to go through an automated/A.I. hell.

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If anything, it will pass (again) the message that not having this can cause them to loose customers.

The answer to this is an iOS app called Tsurukame and it is amazing. You can enable an option so if your answer in english is only a letter off or so it still accepts it. Also if you were thinking in your head the right answer and just fat fingered the wrong character you can say you had the right answer to avoid it being marked wrong. Useful for when you have lots to review and you know you knew the real answer. To each there own though - not everybody wants that but I personally love the app.

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It’s most of time my phone android) , sometimes ipad, sometimes computer.

So vanilla is the only way to have someting consistant.

The lack of an undo feature is completely baffling to me and is the primary reason I will never recommend this site to anyone. It’s a devilishly greedy decision to keep you on this subscription-based service for as long as they can milk you. Defending the devs for not adding an undo, because YOU might cheat to level 60, is absolutely pathetic, and I personally hate you if you’ve done so.

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It would be better to have it “officially” but…

Refresh = Undo :man_shrugging:t2:

Works for me.

I check the pronunciation when I make a mistake in the spelling, and check the meaning when I get the meaning wrong, but I don’t cross check the other. (I did in the beginning, but I too realized that it defeats the purpose of the SRS learning mechanic)

I’ve noticed that once you make mistakes in the pronunciation or meaning twice, the corresponding tab opens automatically.
But I tend to check it myself after the first mistake, as the rank of said word will go down anyway.
That’s okay right?

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I think as long as you are making progress and learning it is fine to cheat a little bit like this. It’s a hard language already, if not one of the hardest ones.

People here made convincing arguments and I’m now in favor of a toggle for typos. Not sure how it would be implemented, but i think they already support English typos. English is a typo happy language apparently. Though i think it’s hard to tell between a genuine error and a typo from a code perspective in hiragana/katakana. Both are wrong.

Maybe on the first two reviews it would be acceptable. But the goal should be to know the word properly. But the good news is that if you are 90% correct you can find your correct kanji on almost all computer writing systems. For example I’m struggling to remember the う in 名字 some words have う others don’t. But on my phone keyboard this is not a problem it helpfully finds the right kanji

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Tsurukame is probably worth switching to iPhone for now that I think about it :laughing:, but you could give Kakumei or Flaming Durtles a try. Not sure if they are still actively developed or maintained though, and from a quick glance they may not have all the same features.Give them a try and see which you like better, or just start using your iPad for all Wanikani studies.