# Borrowed phrases or words that don't carry the original meaning when used in Japan

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**Category:** Japanese Language
**Created:** [February 25, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681 "2021-02-25T03:44:16Z")
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### Author: ![monkeyshine89](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/monkeyshine89/32/300944_2.png) [@monkeyshine89](https://community.wanikani.com/u/monkeyshine89)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 5:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/21 "2021-02-25T05:13:02Z")

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Ah sorry very vigorous auto complete.

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### Author: ![Chellykins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/chellykins/32/399545_2.png) [@Chellykins](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Chellykins)
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I don’t think this is a borrowing, but in Japanese, pulling someone’s leg (足を引っ張る）means holding them back, not telling a joke.

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### Author: ![monsuta87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/monsuta87/32/76380_2.png) [@monsuta87](https://community.wanikani.com/u/monsuta87)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/23 "2021-02-25T05:57:11Z")

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my first thought was cunning 😆

Also ミス as a mistake

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### Author: ![Ladymerelan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/ladymerelan/32/226490_2.png) [@Ladymerelan](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Ladymerelan)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/24 "2021-02-25T06:07:53Z")

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Yup, I live in one of those $$$$ hahaha

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### Author: ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 6:43am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/25 "2021-02-25T06:43:28Z")

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A German loanword mashup is アルバイト which comes from Arbeit. The German word means „work“ (or „job“, depending on context) but in Japanese it specifically means part-time job.  
I guess the Japanese think that we Germans are slackers and that our day jobs are comparable to Japanese part-time jobs 🤣

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### Author: ![NanaNanaNana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nananananana/32/366627_2.png) [@NanaNanaNana](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NanaNanaNana)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/26 "2021-02-25T07:08:41Z")

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For the lucky individuals who only have 35 hour weeks in Germany, I can see where people who work 60 or 70 hours a week might view this as “part-time” although it is considered “full-time”.

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### Author: ![Csinger](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@Csinger](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Csinger)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/27 "2021-02-25T07:12:59Z")

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One I hear from time to time is the standalone phrase 「ドンマイ」, which comes from the English phrase “don’t mind” but means “don’t worry about it”.

> [@CDR-Strawberry](#):
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> “American dog” (corn dog) because the first time I tried to order one in a conbini, the poor worker had no clue what a コーンドッグ

This is more or less true, although I believe “American dogs” are made with wheat batter, so “corn dog” would technically be incorrect. Granted, “American dog” is also a misnomer, so it’s kind of a moot point.

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### Author: ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/28 "2021-02-25T07:14:59Z")

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Yeah, in Japan they seem to have a strong focus on “time spent in the office” - regardless of the output.  
Although, to be fair, 35-hour-jobs are not the norm in Germany (I only ever had 40-hour-jobs) and there are many people who also do 60-70 hours a week.

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### Author: ![drdru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/drdru/32/385496_2.png) [@drdru](https://community.wanikani.com/u/drdru)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/29 "2021-02-25T07:38:55Z")

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I find ベランダ used to mean balcony quite confusing.

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### Author: ![Nemuitanuki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nemuitanuki/32/448041_2.png) [@Nemuitanuki](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Nemuitanuki)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:50am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/30 "2021-02-25T07:50:18Z")

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I’m too lazy to read the thread right now. Has any mentioned “straight” tea?

I thought straight tea would mean no sugar and just tea. Straight up tea.

I got a mouthfull of sugar.

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### Author: ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/31 "2021-02-25T07:57:12Z")

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What, like 午後の紅茶? I guess they mean “not ミルクティー or レモンティー,” the other two products in that line.

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### Author: ![Nemuitanuki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nemuitanuki/32/448041_2.png) [@Nemuitanuki](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Nemuitanuki)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/32 "2021-02-25T08:05:58Z")

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I thought straight meant unsweetened 😭

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### Author: ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 8:11am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/33 "2021-02-25T08:11:47Z")

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Ah, yeah, they do have you covered, you just have to look for the “sugarless straight tea” lol 🙂

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/0/b/e/0be9434112705d7edff42fe6069062505557728f.jpeg)

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### Author: ![alo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/alo/32/239506_2.png) [@alo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/alo)
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Veranda is the English word although it may be more commonly used in England and the commonwealth.

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### Author: ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/35 "2021-02-25T08:20:02Z")

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But veranda means porch rather than balcony, or am I mistaken here? At least that’s the meaning of the German word Veranda…

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#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/36 "2021-02-25T08:29:01Z")

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I’ve heard it used for any outdoor enclosed space but that was in places like Hawaii. That could just be Japanese influence the other way.

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### Author: ![drdru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/drdru/32/385496_2.png) [@drdru](https://community.wanikani.com/u/drdru)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/borrowed-phrases-or-words-that-dont-carry-the-original-meaning-when-used-in-japan/49681/37 "2021-02-25T09:40:52Z")

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At least in French ‘veranda’ has a unique meaning of a porch surrounded by windows. If you call a balcony a veranda people will definitely not understand.

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### Author: ![Simian60](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/simian60/32/353342_2.png) [@Simian60](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Simian60)
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> [@Leebo](#):
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> This one is adapted from British English, I believe. “Mansion” can mean a luxurious apartment apparently. (At least Wiktionary lists that as British English for [mansion](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mansion))

I think that may be an error.

You can convert a mansion to multiple flats, but a flat/apartment could only ever be a mansion sarcastically.

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> [@Simian60](#):
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> I think that may be an error.
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> You can convert a mansion to multiple flats, but a flat/apartment could only ever be a mansion sarcastically.

This site, which says it is “Powered by Oxford,” lists “a large block of flats” as a British English meaning as well.

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In Polish “weranda” can mean a porch, but also a, how to say it, enclosed balcony - with ceiling and windows. (Or maybe I’ve been misusing the word my whole life 😮 )

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