Bootstrapping grammar?

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Have you tried using a textbook (together with bunpro, perhaps)? They usually have a progressive quality to them. Building on grammar you’ve learned already, so you can focus on one new thing at a time.


Try tae kim’s grammar book, it’s pretty nicely done, and you’ll have most of the usual grammar usage explained, instead of just memorizing it without any understanding.

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When you’re listening,

  1. Can you pick out individual words and phrases yet?
  2. Have you learnt to ignore all the filler yet?

Listening is going to a garbled mess until you get those down, no matter how many word/much grammar you know.

In short, yes. Pick some anime you like, maybe ones you’ve watched a couple of times, and watch them without subtitles. Then you don’t have to worry about the not understanding bit.

For reading, you probably need more vocab/kanji or it’s going to be really frustrating. There’s no harm in having a go as long as you keep your expectations in check and your prepared to give up until later though. If you can get parallel readers then those are at first, otherwise check out:

Learning the stuff in the abstract is good and all, but it’s never going to click unless you’re getting exposure to native content.

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Yes, supplementing kanji/grammar/vocab study with active reading and listening is :ok_hand:

I found graded readers in combination with a structured grammar resource quite good for internalizing grammar! And now I’m further along in my grammar study, native materials for children and preteens have become a lot easier to digest.
Other people dive straight in to only using native materials, but you need a lot of grit to get through them without some existing grammar knowledge and vocab (when we’re starting out, we probably have less knowledge than a Japanese 2 year old).

The structure of a text book or YouTube playlist helps my grammar study feel progressive instead of just randomly memorizing grammar points, because new grammar structures build on each other (as mentioned already by @Saida above). Also the example sentences in Bunpro should help contrxtualise a given point, even if you need to rely on the translations for unknown vocabulary.


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