Beginner reading material that is *actually* for beginners?

We also have a new super beginners reading club. We haven‘t decided what to read yet, so maybe you are interested to join us?

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Just here to say that I’m also a member of the “they told me to read Yotsuba” club.
I picked it up last year and I was overall disappointed (maybe it even contributed to my temporary break and eventual reset…)
However I’ve heard that the second volume is supposedly easier to read? Not sure if that’s true, and anyway I’m not trying it again for a while.

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I think it’s only easier because, by then, you are used to the language and speech patterns.

I only read Yotsubato after I got to a point where reading manga in general was already easy (so not beginner anymore), so I don’t have quite the same experience as other people, but I would still not recommend it to a beginner.

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Come here! We are deciding in super easy books!

Second one is definitely easier to read.

Also, the first chapter of the first volumes is one of the hardest

:sob:

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If you understood everything, I’m not sure if that’s good either. In my opinion, one should be challenged in order to evolve their skills. I understand the frustration of not being able to understand something, but give it time and continue to be challenged. You’ll get better :wink:

Here’s a couple of recommended books I’m reading right now:

Japanese Sentence Patterns

Common Japanese Collocations

Hope this helps.
Happy studies :wink:

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That’s great! I’m here waiting for that to happen to me too!

I also absolutely love this series. Each level has three volumes. I bought all three volumes for Level 0 at once on Amazon and have loved them. I’m looking forward to purchasing Level 1 next! Definitely very much recommend.

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I’ve had the first collection of the Level 0 White Rabbit Press readers sitting on my bookshelf for like, a decade. I would pull them out randomly, and see that I didn’t know the vocab or couldn’t read the first two, and I’d put it back. It says you’re not supposed to look anything up. Well, after reading this thread and the beginner reading group thread I pulled it out and I just read every single one of them and oh my gosh. They are easy! They are funny! Why did I wait? So, thank you everybody :slight_smile:

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Yay! Glad you’re experiencing success!!

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I bought Ikki ni Yomeru in that website. It’s been useful for me so far because of how the simple the stories are. It includes Sakura Momoko’s America Sarigani.

I have purchased all the levels, though I am only at level 2, and I agree that they are really good. The difficulty doesn’t increase to rapidly, but I always feel like I am constantly challenged to improve, which I love. The stories themselves are also really good. Some are funny, other quite informative about something quintessential Japanese. My favourite stories though are the Japanese folk tales.

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I mean, Yotsubato was about the first thing I read, and I got a lot out of it, but I’m also of the opinion that slamming your head against something until that something breaks is a good way to learn a language, so.

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I get the physical reading material when I’m in Japan.
I’ll check it out then.
Right now what I find most intriguing (and comforting as weird as it may sound) to read is A dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar.

It’s an extremely important experience to have and doesn’t contradict evolving but supports it.
Language is a tool of communication, as such it’s suppose to become secondary to whatever you’re using it for. Not having a Silver Bullet experience every once in a while can be quite harmful to some learners. The brain must have positive feedback of ease, familiarity and success in order to realize it has evolved. Otherwise it will end up interpreting all reading material as a hostile environment and push the learner to quit.
It’s especially crucial for self learners that have no way to assess where they actually stand in the process. Graded readers where designed for this very reason.

What I’m trying to say is that while the +1 is importenet for the learning process
The +0 is the actual using process it’s the difference between “I’m learning to read Japanese” and “I’m reading”.

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I like https://matcha-jp.com/easy it’s a travel website with articles about japan, all of them in very easy japanese and the harder words are translated. I feel like this is the only source where I can actually read the stuff!
Plus you can use browser extensions like rikaichamp to help translate the words you don’t know!

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Just bought one of them today! The nice lady at the shop said they were very good.

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I have no idea where I got these from since the website’s links don’t work anymore, I just found it on my “Japanese” folder. The PDF has a collection of stories / articles based on JLTP level from 5 to 1. I’ve been going through 5 and 4 and can recommend them to anyone trying to go through graded readers.

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Yes to what Ayadurtle said, and also Gabrielmpf, I think you’re laying it on a little too thick here.

Yes, I wanted to have a positive experience successfully reading something, and yes, I want to learn from what I’m reading. It’s possible to get both. And also worth noting: they’re graded readers, so once I get up a few levels they’ll get harder and I’ll struggle again, don’t you worry!

But most important of all: I think everyone here is probably challenging themselves quite a bit! In fact, I’m guessing we all do quite a bit of self-scolding, and negative talk. In my case, too much of it. I don’t think there’s any need for you to show up here and be the you-aren’t-challenging-yourself-enough police.

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