Beginner Japanese Book Club // Currently Reading: Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun

By the way thank you, @Belthazar, for keeping on top of the thread title :slight_smile:

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But you’re entirely lovely on the forum!

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Haha, thank you. It’s nice to see you are more active on the forums again too :green_heart:

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I have gone through most of the nominations now. The difficulty poll for Detective Conan is closed so I sadly can’t vote for that. Also some of the nominations have been around for a long time Oo.

Looking forward to the vote!

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Alright, nomations are in!

I think they’re all in the OP already, but let me know if yours hasn’t been added.

I have realised that I am laughably unavailable on Saturday, so the vote will open either on Friday 21st or Sunday 23rd, depending on whether I have time on Friday. It will make for some exciting anticipation on Friday seeing whether it goes live or not!

If you haven’t already, please take the time to vote on the difficulties :slight_smile: as I said before, it’s most helpful if you can rate a fair number of them, because the ratings are only useful as a comparative measure.

(It seems Detective Conan’s poll is closed, so… no need to vote on that one! If it doesn’t win we can discuss, but I’ll leave it in for now.)

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Vote for the next book - now!

Can I vote?

If you are interested in joining the next book club we run, you can - and should - vote!

Please look under “Current Proposals” in the first post for more details on each option, including links to sample pages which will help you gauge the difficulty.

Please take difficulty into account

Some people do find that reading a work they love or know already is inherently motivating, but please be realistic. Look at the samples and compare to others. Remember that both language and density contribute to difficulty.

Difficulty Scores

The number in front of each option is a difficulty score based on club members voting, where 1 indicates “no effort at all” and 5 indicates “so much effort my head might explode!”. These scores aren’t objective by any means, so please look at the sample pages for yourself as well.

When will we start and how many will we pick?

We will likely begin reading on the 10th of July, one week after we finish reading 日常. If a short manga (expected less than 8 weeks) wins we will also read the second place option following that without holding another vote.

List of "short" manga

At a guess, the following manga will take less than 8 weeks.

  • Rainbow-Coloured Photograph
  • This Art Club has a Problem!
  • Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun

How does the vote work?

The poll will be closed on Saturday 29th at the latest, or sooner if voting has dried up.

You can vote for up to 4 options.

You can change your vote at any time by clicking ‘Show vote’ at the bottom.

  • [2.68] Rainbow-Coloured Photograph [Manga]
  • [3.07] Ao’s Island and a Cat [Manga]
  • [2.71] A Tropical Fish Yearns for Snow [Manga]
  • [2.89] Koizumi-san Loves Ramen [Manga]
  • [2.71] This Art Club has a Problem! [Manga]
  • [2.67] Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun [Manga]
  • [2.82] Magi [Manga]
  • [2.91] My Hero Academia [Manga]
  • [2.79] Death Note [Manga]
  • [3.43] Great Detective Conan [Manga]
  • [2.63] Ogawa Mimei’s Collection of Children’s Stories [Book]
  • [3.09] Scary Lessons [Book]

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… There are at least 2 level 1 users who joined less than a day ago voting. While it’s not against the rules, it feels weird that their votes get one of the proposals in first place exaequo right now.
I would feel a bit less weird if they introduced themselves or something. Just 5 minutes total read time? That’s like going straight for this thread, voting, and then leaving again :sweat_smile:

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so are you saying you want the rest of us to help you stack the votes in your favor

…shall we rally the troops? :laughing:

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I hate to suggest this, but it might be a good idea to restrict voting to trust levels 1 and higher. That way people can’t make fake accounts to skew the vote. I know it’s not a guarantee that’s what happened here, but it’s certainly suspect.

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people are seriously that evil over our little ol’ book clubs… that’s sad :frowning:

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Well, if you want to rally the troops to vote on my nomination, I won’t complain.

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I mean, they are voting for one of the books I also voted for, that’s how I noticed. I don’t really feel like winning that way, though. So we should disband the troops instead.

It takes about one week max to get level 1, so that could be an option, since we do leave the poll up for nearly a week anyway. Worst case scenario, they would manifest themselves and we can wait a bit before closing the poll (or manually factor their votes in).

I am seriously interested in folklore and fairy tales, so I really hope the collection wins!!

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And I think it should be winning at this point, if it wasn’t for the two strange accounts.
I just removed my own vote on Hanako to balance things out a bit, but I hope the situation will get clarified soon-ish.

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I hope it will win since it’s the one that got immediately my attention! May I ask you if there’s any particular edition you suggest?

I found the one in the link below, but I’m not sure if it’s fine! Thank you in advance~

Amazon Jp

This new accounts voting problem reminded me of How to Set Up Email Notifications for the Forum thread, because it is focused on inviting people who aren’t using WaniKani to the book clubs.

So technically it is possible for someone to vote with completely new account, because they got info about book clubs from someone else. Or were lurking until now, after all, this section is visible for anyone without logging in, and decided to create an account for the vote. :woman_shrugging:

But I also don’t like how easy to is to screw the vote that way. I don’t even think it’s necessarily

I think even if these votes are fake, people may be thinking they are doing the good thing - by helping Hanako gain recognition or something.

That being said, I also don’t feel like winning that way, so I also changed my vote. Even if Hanako is a short manga and actually even it if won, the 2nd place would still be read.
If these new people want me to bring my vote back, I agree they should at least introduce themselves here, although I realize it might be hard for someone after people were just discussing if you are fake :stuck_out_tongue:
So, if you are not fake, that’s great! That’s means more people reading along, more activity in the book club, and all the good things. So come on and say something :hugs:

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Is there any particular reason we’re assuming the new users are fake? At least one of them has liked some stuff elsewhere on the forums and voted for more than just a single book in the poll, and the other hasn’t read anything else than this thread based on their stats, but they could just be a lurker who signed up to join the club (that’s how and why I joined the forums when I first did)

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Yes, I was also thinking about that thread, which seems to be the exact use-case @CDR-Strawberry had in mind…

But maybe it would be easiest to simply ping those two new members and directly ask them, instead of discussing about them and thinking about policies? Probably they didn’t know they should introduce themselves or something…
(I would do it myself but I don’t know how to figure out which users you’re talking about, so @Naphthalene if you could maybe do that?)

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The ones being talked about are presumably @Iixend and @courtchar

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I was thinking about pinging myself, but couldn’t figure out if it’s would be considered more polite or more rude (to point them out by the name in the bad context), so thanks for being the one to suggest this :slight_smile:

I thought this happens when someone has erased their account, but this doesn’t seem to be the case here…? :thinking:
Edit: oh, I see it worked now, may I ask how? I still can’t do it.