Advice for us low-levels?

For me, things started to get serious for the first time around level 13. I think there was a graph somewhere in the forum that it’s the level most people quit WK.

Then I got used to it for a bit before things started to feel a bit hard again around level 21 or so.

Now that I’ve finally started to burn stuff it gets better again :slight_smile:

Save your stamina, it’s a looong journey of ups and downs.

And of course, whenever there’s some down time between reviews, run to grammar learning! And start reading as soon as possible :slight_smile:

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Any recommendations on where to practice grammar/reading?

You’ll know when you try and able to keep a habit :smile:

Reading:
I recommend some progressively difficult materials, that is, not too hard. But, do read some real and perhaps difficult materials once in a while too.

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+1,000,000,000,000! (factorial, not an exclamation mark!)

Well I had most my basic grammar from Human Japanese & Human Japanese intermediate, then Genki. For free resources I find Maggie Sensei’s website not bad, although I only use it as a supplementary resource.

Reading is a bit trickier if you’re a total beginner. At around level 10-ish I started to be able to get through NHK Web easy with rather great difficulty. Other than that, Satori Reader :slight_smile: And Chokochoko Library & Yomimaru – both have N5 reading materials.

They’re all probably listed in the Ultimate Additional Japanese Resources List topic :slight_smile:

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Didn’t expected to see a Drag Race gif in a forum about learning Japanese lol

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Level 9 and the same for me, had like 8 reviews today. 64 items in apprentice queue.

Oh. All you people who have a lot of time can start Kaniwani. It’s the reverse of Wanikani that syncs to the WK account, if you don’t already know. By reverse I mean it asks you to give Japanese words from their English translations. Some people only review burned words there, but I did it for all vocab until recently. It definitely takes a lot of time, especially as you’ll learn more and more vocab + it takes longer time to recall Japanese words from English than vice versa.

It was taking more time for me than WK that I am currently on KW break for my master’s thesis (now done yay!) and JLPT (almost).

I feel KW gives my head pain whenever I see 100-300 reviews, because it’s way harder to recall Japanese words from their English counterparts. D: But I find it really helpful to reinforce my memory both ways (English-Japanese/Japanese-English). A necessary evil.

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Same here! Sometimes I dread Kaniwani because it’s a lot more difficult.

It’s a lot more difficult, yeah, because English–>Japanese is a lot harder but also it’s easier to parse the word from the Kanji. Kaniwani gives you no help.

It’s also hard because synonyms are sooo freaking hard to distinguish on Kaniwani (right now “neighborhood, near, previously, last, and best” synonyms are hitting me so hard.) I have a whole lot more leeches on Kaniwani than Wanikani because of all the synonyms.

I write them down and ask my Japanese coworker about the difference and the first thing he says is “They’re the same, it doesn’t matter. No one cares.” I have to keep telling him that it does to Kaniwani haha.

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Thanks. I levelled up four days ago but I have not started my lessons yet. Hopefully, I will enter Death before you leave!

Youre in for a real treat aha

Oddly enough, I was the same, but over time I now find KW generally much easier and faster - though possibly because it’s set to Burned Only. I dread my WK reviews much more.

I think it’s because of that, sure. The first KW reviews (of new items) are always the most painful :smiling_imp: then it got better. Sure, we have to add synonyms pretty liberally here and there to make it work, but it’s definitely good for reinforcing memory.

Even for WK, the first 2 reviews were usually quite a headache. After the 4 hour and the 8 hour reviews things get better ^^

unless they’re leeches…:

:sob:

It’s not more difficult. I only get about 50 to 70 reviews a day, compared to WK where I get between 150 to 200 a day. Also, KW only asks you for the reading, whereas WK asks you for reading and meaning (except for radicals). So 150 WK reviews is equivalent to about 300 KW reviews.

I’m starting to burn my WK level 23 items now so the KW reviews are getting more difficult because the kanji I draw with stylus on my IME have grown from 5 strokes to 16 strokes. But you get used to it.

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Yeah I understand that you do more work with WK than KW but I’m not doing burned only so sometimes I unlock the vocabulary and right away I have to remember it for KW. And the synonyms…all the synonyms…

WK is more work but it’s easier for me.

Any reason why not? More difficult does not always mean better.

Because I have no burned items yet and I live in Japan so it’s more necessary for me to remember the vocab from English to Japanese for daily life.

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This was also my reason for not doing just burned items, cos I started KW almost at the same time as WK and…there wouldn’t be any burned items for half a year :joy:

It’s hard to do new vocab on KW but I think it makes it easier to recall words, and recalling them earlier by half a year is worth the pain I think.

I think.

I’m back from KW vacation mode after 3-4 weeks (while not taking a break from WK) so now I have gazillions of reviews there :sob:

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Pay attention to the colours young one
BLUE for radicals
PINK for kanji
PURPLE for vocab
and you know where you write your answers (I might get it wrong and need to update it)
BLACK for meaning
WHITE for japanese pronounciation

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Learn pronunciation, listening and pitch accent properly. So that you learn every vocab properly.

It is hard to correct old memory’s mistake.

The most simple way is to enable audio in lessons and reviews.