O - R [adobjg] A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar :white_flower: Home Thread Previous Part: N Next Part: S Reading Week Start Date Reading Entry Count Page Numbers Page Count #20 Aug 5th お to おく 7 343 - 358 16 #21 Aug 12th お〜になる to Relative Clause 7 358 - 380 23 Links are to the of…

I hadn’t realized that を at so many uses! I knew about を2 but hadn’t seen it explained that clearly before. Didn’t know about を4. おく: the hardest part about おく is definitely how it is contracted in informal conversation :sweat_smile:. Awesome that the dictionary mentions some of the contractions!

I knew 多い from learning it on WK but never really learned how to use it, so the dictionary entry was super useful :slight_smile: And just met it in the wild today, so I thought I would post it here: ▶ よつばと！ chapter 101

られる (1): I have (unfortunately) finally reached the passive, which together with causative, have always caused me pain. I feel like I can never completely understand it, and the dictionary hasn’t helped me much so far. My main issue is the “indirect passive” and the negative nuance associated to it …

From my understanding, indirect passive is something that’s done to you but you didn’t like that. “Your cake was eaten by your brother” “your car was stolen on you by the thief” instead of active “your brother ate your cake” “the thief stole your car”. The other passive is more neutral, changing the…

[image] snowwater: My main issue is the “indirect passive” and the negative nuance associated to it - I really cannot distinguish it from the “direct” passive. For example: 一郎は花子にだまされた is presented as direct passive, while 私は弟にケーキを食べられた is presented as indirect. Both agents are marked by に, and …

Thank you so much (and also thank you @Akashelia ). It’s becoming more clear now, but I’ll definitely check the resources you recommended.

I’m here at last! お I noticed a couple things right away: 1) I’d already forgotten how to output these keigo forms, due to barely seeing them in native media and never practicing writing them… 2) お-Vますになる being the honorific polite expression and お-Vますする being the humble polite expression actual…

[image] fallynleaf: Example (d): 宮本さんの奥様はとてもおきれいだ。 Mrs. Miyamoto is very pretty. Obviously a more direct translation of this is Miyamoto-san’s wife is very pretty. Presumably you’d also be able to state “Mrs. Miyamoto is very pretty” with just “宮本さんはとてもおきれいだ”, though of course there would be …

[image] Book9: Since さん/様 are gender neutral and the only name they have is the last name, I don’t see it as inherently sexist to call someone X’s wife. To be clear, the issue that caught my attention was the translation, not the original Japanese. Translating “宮本さんの奥様” as “Mr. Miyamoto’s wif…

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