Adjusting my strategy after that 10-day vacation…

Hi everyone,

As I described in last year’s post:

that experience really opened my eyes to the long-term effects of using vacation mode during an extended break. I experienced a significant drop in lesson accuracy and it took quite a while to get back on track—something many of you have echoed in your responses.

Based on that experience, I’ve rethought my approach for my extended-offline trip this year. This time, rather than enabling vacation mode, I decided to pause new lessons a few weeks in advance and let the clock run normally during my break. My expectation is that when I return, I’ll face around 900 reviews. Given that I can push through roughly 100 reviews per hour, I plan to tackle this backlog over a focused 2–4 day period.

(Ah, my progress since then: I was at level 31 a year ago, I stopped new lessons 3 weeks ago right after unlocking level 39. The 30’s are the 地獄 “hell” levels, so I hope at least some of my dramatic slowdown is due to that and not just having ruined my rhythm from that one vacation…)

I’m hopeful that this method will keep my daily burn rate up without the pitfalls of disrupting my natural review rhythm. The idea is that by keeping the SRS schedule intact, even if it means facing a larger review count upon my return, the long-term retention and consistency of my study will (I hope) remain intact.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this revised strategy. Have any of you tried a similar approach for longer breaks? How did it work out for you?

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I just had a 3-4 month vacation mode. When I restarted two weeks ago, I had forgotten quite a bit, but within a few days I was getting it all back again. The first few days were like a review and then it was all smooth sailing.

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How long have you been studying Japanese for?

For me, in my first year of learning, I put everything into WK and as soon as I took a week off it was basically over for me. However, once I started reading and using what I learned, getting something wrong or missing a spelling wasn’t the end of the world.

Something to remember is SRS is designed for the “bare minimum” of input of the kanji or word to retain the knowledge. All in all I wouldn’t read too much into “what you forgot” and just keep pushing reviews for a bit until you feel comfortable adding lessons again. SRS is a great tool but it’s not perfect nor the only way of retaining what you learned. Doing WK alone basically makes a kanji with a couple strokes as important as one with 20 and you will forget the couple strokes one because you aren’t using them.

Good luck and don’t stress about setbacks, they happen and aren’t worth changing strategies unless it is truly unenjoyable.

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This time, about four years. I studied it in college over twenty years ago for five semesters, and I’d retained basic (-masu/desu) conjugations and about 50–100 kanji, but my vocabulary had deteriorated a lot — I retained very few words I hadn’t learned the kanji for, basically just functional words like たくさん and もう. (I also had no opportunities to keep up practice since other commitments required I keep up practice at another foreign language.)

I resumed spoken and kana-based study in 2020 as a pandemic project and then I started WaniKani in late 2022 when I just got too frustrated that my access to written Japanese was so minimal. (I’m hard of hearing and need subtitles for English TV, so that just compounded the problem.)

I feel I’m in a much better place now than I was a year ago, even though the 30’s levels have been quite difficult. As you mentioned, part of the difficulty is that when you first learn a kanji some of them look very visually distinct and you can Burn say, 誰 before you find out there’s a whole family of left-right kanji with 雄、推、確、権、稚, etc. and you hadn’t been paying attention to the components.

But in the 30’s levels they start throwing you multiple kanji sharing an overall look, radical configuration and/or a reading at once, which makes you concentrate on those distinctions. This was good — but it also resulted in a few dozen resurrections when I realized I didn’t really know what 誰‘s left component was once I’d learn all those alternatives.

I also started using the WK Double-Check userscript to viciously mark wrong things like mistakes WK let slide — no, 依頼 does not mean “trust” — and cases where I felt I was still guessing at things like vowel length or when I confused homophones. (It also let me say, “I feel Master confident on this one, but I don’t feel Enlightened confident; let’s knock it back to Guru for one more try.”) It’s frustrating that I still have a couple dozen Level 1–10 items still getting knocked down all the way to Apprentice after hitting Enlightened five or six times, but I just have to keep trying.

I was a linguistics student, and so I took a lot of languages at once at uni and frequently got annoyed by elders in my classes via continuing-education programs. But now that I’m middle-aged I’m discovering that brain plasticity isn’t a myth — I have to work much harder to retain things and especially fine distinctions like 績 vs. 積 when read セキ.

Still, it’s gratifying that now — even with “just” ~1000 kanji burned — I can read a lot, and guess at even more. I can now read 少年漫画 without a magnifying glass for the furigana! And Japanese subtitles on TV shows are now more helpful than distracting. That’s a lot of progress in two years for an old dude, I think!

I was neither fish nor fowl trying placement tests into local Japanese classes and was loathe to spend hundreds of dollars on classes that were 90% below my level just to progress, but soon I’ll be able to take a beginner-intermediate class. Italki and other on-demand online tutoring is helpful too. I have a long visit to Japan planned next year and I’m just crossing my fingers I’ll get something more than 「日本語お上手ですね!」…

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I just wanted to jump in and say hi since my background is so similar to yours. Studied Japanese in university over 20 years ago and retained basic conjugation and some vocab. I have made some attempts over the years to get my Japanese back, but never made it past high N4/low N3, which is about where I wasy way back when.

Yup, this too. Not a good fit in a beginner class, not a good fit in an intermediate class. I guess that’s why I went with self study and immersion/reading this time around.

I did go through Wanikani a few years ago, but did too much and burned out around level 22. This time I’m taking it slowly (10 lessons per day) and hope to make it to the top this time. Level 24 and up, with only new materials, sure feels harder than the first 20 levels!

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi! Your strategy sounds good to me. It will be interesting to hear how it works out when you get back!

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