# A little grammar help, please!

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**Category:** Grammar\
**Created:** [July 14, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775 "2018-07-14T13:04:15Z")\
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This is a sentence from this evening’s listening practice. What is the use of the と?

その世界地図の周りをオーリブの枝が、上から下へと下がっています。

Is it 途? As in “way”. Outside the use of 途中, I haven’t seen it much!

Thank you for any help!

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/2 "2018-07-14T13:09:18Z")

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Does it come with an English translation? Without any context, my best guess is that it’s the conditional と.

[https://bunpro.jp/grammar\_points/143](https://bunpro.jp/grammar_points/143)

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**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/3 "2018-07-14T13:09:26Z")

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Here’s a Stack Exchange answer on it.

> <https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/9343/particle-%e3%81%a8-with-%e3%81%b8-%ef%bd%9e%e3%81%b8%e3%81%a8>

I’m not sure what version of と it is, but I would say I don’t see anything conditional about it. Someone in the comments there talks about the “making things into an adverb” と. So that could be it.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/4 "2018-07-14T13:16:02Z")

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Thank you!

The full part was,

この旗は真ん中に北極を中心とした世界地図が書いてあります。  
その世界地図の周りをオーリブの枝が、上から下へと下がっています。  
オーリブの枝は平和を表しています。

It was about the design of the UN flag.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/5 "2018-07-14T13:16:54Z")

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Ah! Thank you for the link :).

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/6 "2018-07-14T13:19:29Z")

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I wonder if there’s any relation between this へと and the と that’s kind of a conditional and kind of just used as a conjunction.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/7 "2018-07-14T13:21:36Z")

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I’ve never seen that と described as being able to follow a particle like that. But then again, my Handbook of Japanese Grammar Patterns doesn’t seem to have anything that fits へと. It might be a unique compound particle. When I google around for it, I don’t see things like をと or にと come up as generalizations.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/8 "2018-07-14T13:27:54Z")

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@Leebo @seanblue

Here is the flag and the script for more context. However, I think that the Stack Exchange link’s description suits best here.

Thank you both!

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/a-little-grammar-help-please/31775/9 "2019-07-14T13:27:55Z")

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