2023 will be a busy reading year if the start is anything to go by.
My goals are:
I’m currently a little behind on one VN club and will be behind on a second one tomorrow. xD And I expect the VN clubs to account for a lot of my reading these first few months.
First time joining, and I am pretty excited to do some serious reading this year! :3
I’ve set my goal at 10 books because I am trying to be more ambitious in 2023. Should be doable? Though I feel that the real challenge will be for me to stay consitent and keep reading once my start-of-the-year enthusiasm fizzles out.
Book clubs might help with that. Peer pressure and all
I was thinking more camaraderie and sharing the story with other people, but then peer pressure have never worked to get me to do a thing, only to do the opposite. xD
You can also pick a story that you’ve already read and lurk in the respective reading book club thread .
What if I pressure you to do the opposite of whatever I pressure you to do?
Are you saying using reverse psychology? Not sure that would work in this case. I might have said I’d do the opposite, but it would be more like if someone tries to pressure me to do something, I won’t. But pressuring me not to do something, would entirely depend on if I wanted to do the thing or not. If I never wanted to do the thing, pressuring me to not do it, won’t change my original plan to not do it. xD
Question as a noob on here: When you guys say you’re extensively reading, are you deliberately picking books that are at a comfortable level of reading, or is it just “read whatever you can”?
I believe the spirit of the thread is based off this post: A great introduction to extensive reading
But doubtless there is individual variation in how it’s interpreted. The majority of my reading is extensive (few to no lookups, go by feel, go go go!) with occasional intensive reads when I have the desire or energy. I also feel like variety is essential to extensive, which I…mostly do? I have some genres I barely touch (I have read one war novel, I have checked the box. Please no more) but otherwise try to be openminded and give new things a whirl.
Also re: difficulty - I pick whatever. Sometimes this has been painful, but…
I’ll be honest. I use this more as a yearly goal setting, occasionally talk about books challenge. I don’t yet do much extensive reading since my vocabulary is a bit too small for it yet. I’m always happy when I find things where I understand most of it though.
Instead I’m using this thread to challenge myself to read more, which, I guess, is one definition of extensive. So I guess it fits?
As others have said, it’s up to you. The original idea was to really power through books, as @pocketcat said. In fact, the first book I read when I started this thread was pretty challenging for me.
That being said, using it as a way to keep track of your reading goal, like @MissDagger, is fine too. That’s pretty much how I am using it right now.
I really just think of this as the less-spammy version of the read-every-day thread . Personally, I think challenging books are fine; they still fit the learning-by-doing philosophy.
I never internalized for myself any kind of division between “extensive” reading and anything else and have just read whatever the same as I would have anyway (i.e. for fun, with simple frequent and quick lookups whenever necessary), across any difficulties, and no one’s yelled at me about it for what that’s worth.
There is the N+1 rule, but to me personally it’s a combination of understanding enough to be able to build the context and then understand the remaining words I don’t know from context or understand enough to be able to follow the story without missing too much.
EDIT: Ironically, I started reading 怪獣8号 today and not only is there a ton of slang I can’t comprehend, there is zero furigana even for harder words (names get furigana the first time around, though )
I’ve recently learned that while peer pressure is powerful, it doesn’t even come close to the motivational boost I get from looming deadlines I think my brain is a little broken.
Book clubs are an excellent idea though, I’ll just have decide on which ones to join (I am suffering from having too many interesting options)
In my case I have a gigantic backlog I read whatever I want from it. The difficulty doesn’t matter that much to me. If something is harder to read I will just need to put more effort into reading it.
Of course sometimes I have a hard time to decide what to read next, I start reading too many things without finishing any of them.
Me curious, why do you say that?
The way I understand the definition of extensive reading is that you’re not only reading lots of books but you’re reading lots of different books. You’re improving your vocab and exposure to writing styles, which can only stretch so far within a single genre and/or series. So reading say, 10 volumes of the same book series would be a lot of reading, but not extensive reading.
This is how I learned it and what I hold myself to, but I’m not concerned with how other people want to do it (and especially not how people want to use this thread so long as it motivates them).
Huh, that’s interesting. When I think of extensive reading on a book level, “a lot over a large area” is what comes to mind for me as well. Hadn’t really thought of it that way. Personally whenever I hear extensive reading, I always think of it more on a reading session level. High reading speed and high comprehension, sort of as the opposite of intensive reading where one might spend several seconds on a single sentence
I think “extensive reading” for language learning purposes is just the opposite of “intensive reading” - i.e. trying to read smoothly without stopping to do lots of lookups and such, and learning through large amounts of exposure. The breadth of content doesn’t matter (and in fact you might want to stay within a limited subject area or author for a while since you need a really high comprehension % in order to reliably learn new words just through context).
If I were describing a native speaker as “extensively well-read,” I would expect them to have read a wide variety, but that’s a different use of the word.
This is all pretty pedantic, but that’s how I think of it at least ¯\(ツ)/¯