Check the Natively links for digital and physical purchase options. Both digital and physical are or have been available as both two and four volume editions, so check which one you’re buying. The two volume edition books are marked 上 and 下; the four volume edition books are marked 1, 2, 3, 4.
Note that for the ABC we plan to read the first volume of the two volume edition, which is the same as the first two books of the four volume edition. We will likely then go on to finish the novel (reading the last book/two books) as an informal club.
Schedule
Page numbers are from the four volume paperback edition. Note that week seven covers the tail end of book one and the start of book two.
Week
Start date
Chapters
Pages
Page count
Week 1
May 31st
prologue and chapters 1.1 to 1.3
pages 11-46
36 pages
Week 2
June 7th
chapters 1.4 to 1.5
pages 47-81
35 pages
Week 3
June 14th
chapters 1.6 to 2.1
pages 82-115
34 pages
Week 4
June 21st
chapters 2.2 to 2.3
pages 116-150
35 pages
Week 5
June 28th
chapters 2.4 to 2.6
pages 151-195
45 pages
Week 6
July 5th
chapters 2.7 to 3.2
pages 196-234
39 pages
Week 7
July 12th
chapters 3.3 to 3.5
pages 235-246 and 11-33
35 pages
Week 8
July 19th
chapters 3.6 to 3.7
pages 34-63
30 pages
Week 9
July 26th
chapters 3.8 to 3.10
pages 64-108
44 pages
Week 10
Aug 2nd
chapters 3.11 to 4.1
pages 108-140
33 pages
Week 11
Aug 9th
chapters 4.2 to 4.3
pages 141-178
38 pages
Week 12
Aug 16th
chapters 4.4 to 4.6
pages 179-210
32 pages
(This is the end of book 2. Chapter 4 continues up to subchapter 4.16 for a further 125 pages in book 3.)
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Oh wow; I’ve only been keeping an occasional eye on the ABC, so I wasn’t expecting 香君 at all. I’m really tempted to join, since I’ve been wanting to read more non-LN fantasy in Japanese, but my schedule is probably going to be horrendous this summer. I’ll be traveling both the second-to-last week of May and likely for a good chunk of July, at the very least, so I’ll have to keep a close eye on starting date polls, I think.
Starting date is May 31st, since we just follow on from the previous ABC, unless someone wants to ask for a delay so they can get hold of their copy of the book.
The book helpfully has a table of contents which gives page numbers for both the main and subchapters. The ABC pace is 30-50 pages a week for modern books; here’s my first pass at a schedule based on that. Page numbers are from the 4 volume edition. (Note that all of the volume breaks fall in the middle of chapters: chapter 3 is split across books 1 and 2, chapter 4 split across books 2 and 3, and chapter 5 split across books 3 and 4.)
Week 1: prologue and chapters 1.1 to 1.3 (pages 11-46) : 36 pages
Week 2: chapters 1.4 to 1.6 (pages 47-94) : 48 pages
Week 3: chapters 2.1 to 2.2 (pages 95-131) : 37 pages
Week 4: chapters 2.3 to 2.5 (pages 132-176) : 45 pages
Week 5: chapters 2.6 to 2.7 (pages 177-216) : 40 pages
Week 6: chapters 3.1 to 3.3 (pages 217-246) : 30 pages
(This is the end of book 1.)
Week 7: chapters 3.4 to 3.6 (pages 11-48) : 38 pages
Week 8: chapters 3.7 to 3.9 (pages 49-93) : 45 pages
Week 9: chapters 3.10 to 4.1 (pages 94-140) : 47 pages
Week 10: chapters 4.2 to 4.3 (pages 141-178) : 38 pages
Week 11: chapters 4.4 to 4.6 (pages 179-210) : 32 pages
(This is the end of book 2. Chapter 4 continues up to subchapter 4.16 for a further 125 pages in book 3.)
This schedule stays within the 30-50 page guideline, keeps all the end of week breakpoints at subchapter endings, and doesn’t have a week split between two books.
Feel free to suggest alternatives, or to point out mistakes in my page counting arithmetic
Personally, I would prefer a slightly slower pace, especially at the beginning. It seems like the ABC varies their schedules wildly, presumably just picking whatever gives convenient break points in the book. As one example, 本の読み方 スロー・リーディングの実践 📚 Book Club: starting November 9th! was read very slowly for a “fast” book that has the same difficulty as 香君. I also know that some of the books around the low to mid 30s had a schedule around this pace overall, but they seem to start a little slower like 傲慢と善良 😤😇 (Advanced Book Club).
It’s really week 2 that is my biggest concern. What would it look like if week two was just 1.4 to 1.5 and would that negatively impact the rest of the schedule? I’ll also look at my kindle version later, because these might be small page big font bunko pages, and maybe it’s not a big deal.
We read 本の読み方 slowly for a mix of reasons: non fiction rather than the club’s usual fiction; it includes extracts from classic lit which are harder difficulty than the book proper and which the book actively encourages you to read through multiple times; and it would have been ironic to read a book about slow reading at a fast pace (We classified it as “slow” pace for ABC, not “fast” pace.)
If we make week 2 be chapters 1.4 and 1.5, that’s 35 pages. We could then do week 3 as 1.6 and 2.1 (34 pages), week 4 2.2 and 2.3 (35 pages), week 5 is 2.4 to 2.6 (45 pages) and week 6 is 2.7 to 3.3 (51 pages, but the last page is only 4 lines of text). That makes weeks 5 and 6 both pretty long, but splitting them in 3 would mean either splitting inside a chapter or having a sub-30-page week. (We could do either of those things, of course. I personally prefer week boundaries at chapter ends because I find it easier to avoid overshooting the endpoint when I’m reading.)
The bunkobon volumes with these page numbers are 39 characters per column, 17 columns per page.
I think I prefer this to the original schedule. I’d rather weeks 5 and 6 be a little longer if it means the first four weeks are on the shorter side. Curious to hear what others think.
Here’s a more “relaxed” schedule, which takes one extra week but has only two weeks with a page count in the 40s. It does mean that week 7 is “end of book one and start of book 2”, and that we never finish a “big” chapter on a week boundary, but I think that’s not a big deal.
Week 1: prologue and chapters 1.1 to 1.3 (pages 11-46) : 36 pages
Week 2: chapters 1.4 to 1.5 (pages 47-81) : 35 pages
Week 3: chapters 1.6 to 2.1 (pages 82-115) : 34 pages
Week 4: chapters 2.2 to 2.3 (pages 116-150) : 35 pages
Week 5: chapters 2.4 to 2.6 (pages 151-195) : 45 pages
Week 6: chapters 2.7 to 3.2 (pages 196-234) : 39 pages
Week 7: chapters 3.3 to 3.5 (pages 235-246 and 11-33) : 35 pages
Week 8: chapters 3.6 to 3.7 (pages 34-63) : 30 pages
Week 9: chapters 3.8 to 3.10 (pages 64-108) : 44 pages
Week 10: chapters 3.11 to 4.1 (pages 108-140) : 33 pages
Week 11: chapters 4.2 to 4.3 (pages 141-178) : 38 pages
Week 12: chapters 4.4 to 4.6 (pages 179-210) : 32 pages
(This is the end of book 2. Chapter 4 continues up to subchapter 4.16 for a further 125 pages in book 3.)
I think an 11-week schedule with this split would be ideal for me, I’d prefer not to split across volumes midweek due to reading physically. Starting slower and having a longer middle few sections is probably better. However, the 12 week schedule also looks alright, other than the mid-book split being a bit annoying, but I don’t see an easy way around that other than making Week 6 long and week 7 quite short.
Either way though, I don’t mind that much, 11 or 12 weeks is fine and if there’s people prefering to go slower I defer to them. If it’s the 12-week one I can just read ahead in week 6 to the end of volume 1 to resolve it.
Yes; there are also two items for each of the four volume books. I’ve left feedback notes about that but it will probably be a while before Brandon gets to it.
Yes, I think I’m responsible for that I wanted to somehow add the four-volume version to Natively as well and pressed the “sync” button; the rest is history
