美少女戦士セーラームーン 第二期 ブラック・ムーン編 🌑

That’s one thing I like about the Dark Kingdom in the (original) anime and the live action series. You get a lot of rivalry, and stepping on each others’ toes over who’s doing which task.

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Ohhhh, that makes sense, thank you! I really appreciate your detailed answer. For some reason when she first woke up I was thinking this was some sort of time-space Black Moon trick, and apparently my mind couldn’t quite grasp it was real. :smiley:

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Playing catch-up with the thread:

For some reason, despite not having seen any of the first anime in more than fifteen years, and remembering basically none of its specifics, I’d internalized that this was a plotline in the manga as well. Was happy to realize that the story was moving straight into its second arc sans memory-erasure.

The pacing of Sailor Moon could perhaps best be described as “aggressive,” but I think it’s better for
it.

I feel like this was just common of artists using their colored pages at the time. I know Toriyama basically never adhered to any consistent colors. I definitely feel like she’s prioritizing the individual illustration over design consistency, which is fine, because the colored pages and chapter covers all look great.

Edit – Chapter 19 really goes wild with its chemistry terms, and due to the combination of them and Takeuchi’s loose presentation, I’m still not clear on exactly what’s happening at the beginning of its encounter with the Fool Brothers. Everyone steps into a crystalline enclosure that nullifies their powers because of the magic of enantiomers? The first brother doesn’t actually split up, but just looks like he does, because a crystal structure is growing around the heroes? Or are there beams of light being shot at them? I can’t tell? Something something chirality center, which is a chemistry term with applications to crystalline structures, but I feel basically invoked like it’s magic here?

I’m having fun but am a little confused, and I don’t think it’s because of language issues?

Edit edit – I do actually have one language question, though. This is the first bit of dialogue in the series I’ve felt unclear on. Does anyone have a firm idea of what’s going on in Usagi’s このおひめさまか知んないけど知ってんのっっ あんたの親は‼︎ here? I understand what it’s contracting, but not the thrust of the sentence itself. Anyone enlighten me? Been bothering me for the last two days.

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Yeah, that’s a difficult part, and I just imagined it as “I magicked the magic, and now you can’t move.” I think the one brother did split up, to corral the group into the center, and that’s when the crystal appeared to keep them from moving.

As for Usagi’s line, I think it helps a little to split the sentence on けど, and then un-invert the second half of the sentence by moving the は topic from the end to the front.

  • このお姫さまか知んない
  • けど
  • あんたの親は知ってんの

I took 「このお姫さまか知んない」 as “I don’t know about this princess thing,” but I can’t really a reasoning why into words.

I parse 「知ってんの」 as 知っている + の (questioning) = “Do (they) know?” If I have it any bit right, then I think it makes more sense when connected to the rest. “Do your parents know!! The trouble you’ve caused us!”

In all, I took it as, “I don’t know about this princess thing, but do they know? Your parents! About all the trouble you’ve caused us!”

Or, a little more smoothly in English, “I don’t know about this princess business, but do your parents know about all the trouble you’ve caused us?!”

Looking at the 90’s Tokyo Pop translation (which is often not reliable, but looks pretty good here), they went with, “I don’t know what you’re a princess of, but do your parents know what you’re up to!! All the trouble you’re causing for us!”

The 10’s Kodansha translation went with, “I don’t know what you are a princess of, but do your parents know what you’ve done?! You went around causing problems for everybody!!”

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Ah, attaching the bit about the parents to her complaint in the next half of the bubble made sense of it for me! Thanks! For some reason it just wasn’t clicking.

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Act.24 攻撃—BLACK LADY

Notice: In the tankoubon release, this is labeled Act.22.

This Act appears in the following releases:

  • Tankoubon vol. 6
  • Shinsouban vol. 5
  • Kanzenban vol. 4

I failed to mention last week, but this is the final Act in tankoubon volume 6. The story continues on tankoubon volume 7.

Participation

  • I’m reading along (ready for Act.24)
  • I’m taking my time (still on an earlier Act)
  • I’ve gone on ahead (Act.25 and beyond)
  • I’m no longer reading this series

0 voters

You can always change your answer later if you’d like.

Pages

Release First Last
Tankoubon 145 end
Shinsouban 97 140
Kanzenban 97 140

(Last pages are estimated.)

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Voted for “reading along” earlier, since I was caught up right in line, but then I couldn’t put down the climax of the second arc and read through to the end in one sitting.

Looking back at what happened specifically in Chapter 24:

It’s in full climax mode at this point and really gets you excited for the end.

Thoughts
  • “Black Lady” coveting her will-be dad like that might raise a few eyebrows, and initially seems like something that makes more sense for Usagi’s character arc than hers, but Usagi acknowledging her own jealousy, as well as speaking about universal clumsiness while navigating overwhelming emotions, successfully frame it as an aspect of Chibiusa looking for validation for me, and mistakenly trying to achieve it through faux-“grown-up” means, not knowing how to express more healthily that she needs unconditional love.

  • The Wiseman’s true form (and several panels of him this chapter) provides some straight-up horror comic visuals. It’s fitting that the villain is an evil planet, I suppose.

  • Demande’s role makes for an exciting cliffhanger, and it’s nice to see differing villain motivations—a highlight of the arc in general—playing out right to the end. I’d actually missed that he kills Sapphire until searching back through for this post, and was wondering where he’d disappeared to for the climax.

  • I was surprised but delighted by Pluto playing such a large role in the climax. The other Sailor Soldiers are kind of dropped by the arc after their episodic spotlights in its first few chapters, but it more than makes up for it with the arcs it gives Usagi, Mamoru, Chibusa, Pluto, and even the villains.

Other than that, just lots of beautiful and creative panels about as usual.

I suppose this is a bit of a spoiler for my thoughts on the arc as a whole, but it was already cemented by the time I got to this chapter: I like it much more than the series’ opening arc, which I also mostly enjoyed.

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Read act 24 last night. This arc is just okay for me, but I do like it better now that things are reaching a breaking point.

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When I hit the between-chapters page earlier today, I thought, “Wait, that’s it for the chapter? I have to wait a week to continue???” It’s a con of being bound to one chapter per week, but the pro is it ensures I give time to everything else I’m reading through. (At least I’m not having to wait a whole month, like everyone reading along back when it was published.)

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Knowing the arch is close to ending is making me want to do read catch up. I don’t even remember what act I am on, but I have quite a bit of reading to do. ^^

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I’ve been trying my best to keep quiet about this one thing Naoko kept doing, but finally I had to take action. I have “corrected” one of her panels.

Here are the original page numbers for comparison:

  • Tankoubon Volume 6 Page 184
  • Shinsouban Volume 5 Page 136
  • Kanzenban Volume 4 Page 136

Note that you have to look at both the page before this one, and this one, to fully appreciate the edit.

Here is the page with the corrected panel.

I’m low-skill in image editing, so I couldn’t move the sound effect.

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Oh you’re right! Haha this is too good! :joy:

I’m amazed at the amount of details you notice. I tend to get a bit lost in all the sparkle and gloss over these. :sparkles:

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I do wish I could turn off noticing some of this. It’s happened quite a bit so far in Sailormoon, this right hand/left hand switch, and it stands out to me every time.

Props go missing occasionally as well. In one scene, a girl sees Chibiusa turn Luna-P into an umbrella. The girl is holding an ice cream cone. After Chibausa makes birds appear from under the umbrella, the girl is scared, and hangs on to her mother who’s now appeared in the scene. But…the girl’s ice cream is now missing. To add to the confusion, the mother tells the daughter that they need to hurry along home because it’s cold out. So…why did you buy your kid an ice cream cone when the weather’s cold?

In the grand scheme of things, the hand thing is a minor complaint. It just feels like it should have been an easy thing to get right. Naoko was doing about 45 pages a month of Sailormoon, and that was on top of however many pages a month of her main series, Sailor V. I don’t know how much help she had. I look at a lot of other comics I read that have a much smaller page count per chapter, simpler artwork, and often times no background, and I do appreciate the work Naoko did all that much more.

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Now that you mention that (and yes, her monthly page count even with just Sailor Moon alone was fairly insane), how long into Moon’s run did Sailor V keep going? Also, is there a general sentiment that that was her passion project whereas Sailor Moon was more a contractual obligation as part of the multi-media initiative Toei wanted? (If so, I’ll definitely have to read that one day, since Sailor Moon already seems pretty wild and idiosyncratic.)

Does it remain firmly fixed in Moon-“prequel” mode even later into its run?

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Saliormoon ran from December 28, 1991 to February 3, 1997.

Sailor V is harder for me to pinpoint (I’d need more time than my work schedule morning break I’m on at the moment), but it was originally a one-off piece published August 3, 1991. I don’t know offhand when it became serialized, but it may have started April 1992. It ran until July 3, 1997.

I never really looked into these dates before. I’d read that she worked on the two series concurrently. But when you consider Sailor V is 16 chapters to Sailormoon’s 60 chapters (plus various short and long side stories), it looks like Sailor V took a back seat to Sailormoon. It also looks like the one-off spurred Sailormoon, but Naoko maybe wanted to continue Sailor V once Sailormoon got off the ground. (Just idle speculation on my part. I’m sure there are interviews out there with actual details.)

If I remember right, there are some cameo appearances, like Usagi and Naru walking by in the background in a chapter of Sailor V. I’ve also read that the events of Sailor V cannot fit into the timeline of Sailormoon.

It is interesting to consider Sailor Venus’s appearance (rough estimate without looking into it, maybe August 1992) was alongside Sailor V’s still being early on in its run (at best, maybe six chapters).

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Act.25 対決—DEATH PHANTOM

Notice: In the tankoubon release, this is labeled 「Act.23 再生—NEVER ENDING」.

Edit: I failed to mention, this is another tankoubon Act that was double-length, and was later split in two.

Here is the final page of the Act.

This Act appears in the following releases:

  • Tankoubon vol. 7
  • Shinsouban vol. 5
  • Kanzenban vol. 4

We’re down to two Acts left in the Shinsouban and Kanzenban volumes. The story continues in Shinsouban volume 6 and Kanzenban volume 5.

Notice: The Kanzenban release has two side-stories in volume 4. Due to these being spread around between releases (such as roughly volume 11 in the Tankoubon release, and volumes 11 and 12 in Shisouban, and scattered about in Kanzenban), the weekly reading schedule is skipping side stories for now.

But don’t let me stop anyone who wants to read them now! For anyone who wants to get to know the characters better, these first two short stories feature Chibiusa in the first and Rei in the second.

Participation

  • I’m reading along (ready for Act.25)
  • I’m taking my time (still on an earlier Act)
  • I’ve gone on ahead (Act.26 and beyond)
  • I’m no longer reading this series

0 voters

You can always change your answer later if you’d like.

Pages

Release First Last
Tankoubon 4 50
Shinsouban 142 189
Kanzenban 142 189

(Last pages are estimated.)

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Thank you for the information about the tankoubon version! I should really remember to check the home thread, but I never do, so you are saving me.

The tricky thing for me was I forgot that this arc has two long acts that were each split in two. The splits tend to happen near the end of a story arc, where a lot of action happens.

After the current split act, the next one (following a one-act-per-week schedule) comes up in September. In that case, there’s a super-long act that was split into three acts on re-release. (I’ll of course try my best to mention that when it comes up!)

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Well ahead now, but thoughts from my recent blind trip through Act 25:

Act thoughts
  • I love that the all-cast illustration preceding the chapter in the Kanzenban doesn’t help clarify anything. Also, I was a bit confused by Chibiusa’s two classmates appearing here, as the Kanzenban saves their introduction for the back of the volume.

  • Pluto’s sacrifice takes up a huge chunk of the chapter, and I think it makes an effective bit of tension and pay-off for her small arc of frustration over not being able to more directly help. Also a fitting way to restore Chibiusa to normal.

  • Then again, I don’t know how … great the message about hugs and kisses not being the only proofs of affection are, versus watching over and thinking of someone from afar, if Chibiusa is saying she never gets that kind of physical affection from her parents. They aren’t exactly stranded far away from her. They all live in the same castle.

  • The spatial distortions caused by the encroaching Nemesis as it attempts to destroy them are petty funky.

  • I wondered if Demande mightn’t get some moment of redemption, but he’s dispatched rather bitter and crazed as he attempts to take everyone out before Nemesis has the pleasure. Ah well. He didn’t deserve anything else.

  • Nemesis/Death Phantom drawing them all into its core to provide access to its weakness is a bit baffling, but somewhat alleviated by revelations next chapter (or rather, later in the same chapter, in earlier releases). Plus maybe—ignoring “next chapter’s” revelation—he was simply overconfident in his ability to absorb the Silver Crystal from there. Orrrr … I guess I can speak more about how to make sense of these scenes after everyone’s through the content for next week.

On a side note, the official SM YouTube channel has been uploading episodes of the '90s anime, so I watched the first episode of S earlier, as that’s the arc I’m in in the manga. It is … jarring.

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I’m still here, back on Act 19!

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