涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱: Week 2 Discussion

Yeah, he is, but in narration, after the fact, and with the benefit of hindsight.
(P. 16)

Ah, now I see what you mean.
I’m usually taking that as internal monologue, except if the other person replies to it.
But yes, I like it too :slight_smile:

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Still behind…

谷口の計画する相手不在の仮想デートコースを三パターンほど聞き流しているうちに、ようやく俺は校門に到達した。
Having trouble with the katakana of all things. The dictionary gives pattern for パターン but I don’t see how that makes sense. I take it to mean it is a three-course date so how does that fit?

路傍の石に話かけるような口調で、ハルヒは言った。
Not really a question but I liked this sentence. And it’s not because it was short and understandable I promise

Oh, apparently that was it. Nice thing we have that break or I would never catch up.
Now I gotta run to read this week’s コンビニ

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Oh, is that what it means?

I thought that Taniguchi was regaling him with fantasies on how a date with his non existent girlfriend would go in his imagination, and he has 3 patterns, that is 3 different imaginings/ways of going about it.

It’s been a while and I don’t have the book with me, though. Will check back tomorrow to see if anyone had some insight to share. :slight_smile:

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I read it similarly. To me, it’s デートコースを三パターン so it’s a floating counter that attaches to the object: it’s three patterns (used as an unorthodox counter I guess?) of “date course” (date plan, date itinerary?). You can see that if we remove the numerical quantifier, the meaning stays roughly the same (except it would then not say “three” of those). Maybe there’s another way to look at it, but I don’t really see one myself…

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Yeah… that makes a lot more sense, actually. It didn’t fit that the 三 was there if it was 3 courses but it seemed weird to say you have a pattern for a date (still kinda weird but Japanese amiright).

On one hand, I do believe it’s quite common to actually plan a date in Japan, much more thoroughly than in the west. On the other hand, well Taniguchi is presented as a bit of a… Creep. :smiley: I guess while ‘indexing’ all the girls he also created ‘ideal date plans’.

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I have two ideas: a date with a going out to a three-course meal,

Or

A date involving a three-way?

I think it’s most likely yours and Belerith’s interpretation, then if not that my first option. The 計画 leans me that way.

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I’d go with Belerith on this one.

Vote for favorite bit of week 2 though is:
しかしハルヒがまともな返答をよこしたことは驚きだ。てっきり「うるさいバカ黙れどうでもいいでしょ、んなこと」と言われるものだとばかり思っていたからな。思っていながら話しかけた俺もどうかしてるが。

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