# 極主夫道 | Week 6 Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [January 8, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140 "2022-01-08T08:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NyappyTiramisu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nyappytiramisu/32/345668_2.png) [@NyappyTiramisu](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NyappyTiramisu)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/1 "2022-01-08T08:46:06Z")
# Bonus Chapters **Start Date:** 08 January **Last Week:** [Here](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-5-discussion/55021) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/8/e/b/8eb8dbcee1fc567fa24c41262581aadb59608a6e.jpeg) [極主夫道 ・The Way of the Househusband Home Thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/join-us-%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-%E3%83%BBthe-way-of-the-househusband-beginner-book-club/54153) ## Vocabulary List > **[The Way of the Househusband](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hv8GNR4DHkkSau79PYu2hMVgA8IkgDlWdhlBWnOB_S0/edit?usp=sharing)** > > This Sheet is private Please read the editing guidelines before contributing! ## Useful resources - Kansai-ben: [kansaiben.com | Kansai-ben index](http://www.kansaiben.com/9.Index/2index.html), [Kansai-ben in 極主夫道](https://japanese-sakura-neko.com/5-kansai-dialect-you-should-start-using-in-conversations-now-the-way-of-the-househusband/), [Osaka-ben transmogrifier](https://osaka.uda2.com/) - [Yakuza slang/極道用語](http://www.usamimi.info/~kintuba/zingi/zingidic-ya.html) - [Onomatopoeia](http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/search/?keyword=pipi&submitSearch=Search+SFX&x=) - Contractions: [Reference thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/quick-contraction-reference/33461), [more exhaustive list](https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2019/07/contractions.html) ## Discussion Guidelines - Please blur out major events in the current week’s pages, and _any_ content from later in the book/series, like this: texthere - When asking for help, please **mention the page number** (or % for eBooks). - To you lurkers out there: join the conversation, it’s fun! ## Participants Mark your participation status by voting in this poll: _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/1))_ _If you’ve read it before but will join in the discussion (or have read ahead), please select “I’m reading along”!_ ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/2 "2022-01-09T16:36:39Z")
For those of us who already watched the anime, it looks like the last bonus chapter will be totally new content! I’m saving it for a time when it feels like my brain is functioning within normal parameters … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lucylavelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/lucylavelle/32/358444_2.png) [@lucylavelle](https://community.wanikani.com/u/lucylavelle)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/3 "2022-01-09T23:47:35Z")
Finished! I didn’t originally think that this book was going to be the sort of thing I enjoyed, but figured I may as well join in anyway - but I’m so glad I did, because I loved it. Its so funny, and unexpectedly sweet. Big thanks to @NyappyTiramisu for organising everything, and also to everybody who filled in the vocab sheet and participated in the threads. I’m a little shy and I tend to mostly lurk - so I’m very grateful to all of the people who keep these threads alive. ---
**Author:** ![trout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/trout/32/298232_2.png) [@trout](https://community.wanikani.com/u/trout)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/4 "2022-01-10T01:57:50Z")
Thanks @NyappyTiramisu for suggesting this book as well as moderating. I’m not really into manga all that much but the story’s premise about a reformed yakuza member caught my attention. Just like @lucylavelle, I’m also glad I read this fun book. The writer has a great sense of humor and the artwork was outstanding but the things I enjoyed most were learning stuff about the yakuza as well as kansai ben. I never knew kansai ben was so different from standard Japanese. For me, this was a nice introduction to this dialect. And thanks to everyone else for your help and comments! ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/5 "2022-01-11T02:45:37Z")
I finally read the last bonus scene, and I definitely have some questions … Will try to post them in the morning when I’m more clear headed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aamunoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aamunoz/32/484793_2.png) [@aamunoz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/aamunoz)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/6 "2022-01-11T04:54:00Z")
This was a fun manga! I laughed out loud quite a bit reading it. ---
**Author:** ![meagstudies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/meagstudies/32/632481_2.png) [@meagstudies](https://community.wanikani.com/u/meagstudies)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/7 "2022-01-11T19:04:21Z")
Finished!! This was such a fun read, I’m so glad I decided to join the book club in time for this manga! That last bonus scene was a bit difficult, but I think I got the gist of it I noticed 尋常 has been listed twice in the vocab sheet (for pages 155 and 157). I think this is because it’s in the title on 155 but doesn’t show up in the actual reading until 157. I was going to get rid of the duplicate, but I don’t know which entry would be better to keep, the one in the title or in the reading ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/8 "2022-01-11T19:27:16Z")
Finally wrote up my questions about the last skit! 1. page 157 Why does the nerdy clerk shout “いざ 尋常に” when he first starts putting coins in the machine? > **my googling yielded** > > ## ready? fight! > > 尋常とは「普通に」ということです。 > > 卑怯なことをせずに戦え！ということですね > > So I’m guessing now that it’s a reference to video games … 1. page 158 starting with “このガチャのアソートは大体決まっている” until the end (in other words, the whole page haha) … Here’s what I’ve worked out so far. First he says the ratio is generally fixed (decided). Then in the following panels he says the secret’s out, it’s 5 out of 50. And then “in other words, if we have ten …” He definitely has more than ten, so he should have some different characters, but he doesn’t, so he’s implying it’s rigged, I guess? Now that I’ve worked them out to the best of my ability, I don’t feel _as_ mystified, but I’d still appreciate any other views. 🙂 > [@meagstudies](#): > > I noticed 尋常 has been listed twice in the vocab sheet (for pages 155 and 157). I think this is because it’s in the title on 155 but doesn’t show up in the actual reading until 157. I was going to get rid of the duplicate, but I don’t know which entry would be better to keep, the one in the title or in the reading Just personal opinion, but I’d delete the later one and keep the earlier one. ---
**Author:** ![meagstudies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/meagstudies/32/632481_2.png) [@meagstudies](https://community.wanikani.com/u/meagstudies)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/9 "2022-01-11T19:31:29Z")
> [@MaraVos](#): > > Just personal opinion, but I’d delete the later one and keep the earlier one. That’s what I was thinking too, but I wasn’t sure since I didn’t know how we handle chapter titles (there haven’t been any in this book until now). I went ahead and deleted the later one ---
**Author:** ![2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/2oc3aodkgwsglxfz/32/742852_2.png) [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/10 "2022-01-12T00:29:34Z")
> [@MaraVos](#): > > page 157 Why does the nerdy clerk shout “いざ 尋常に” when he first starts putting coins in the machine? Clerk…? My understanding is this was just another customer wanting to use the Gacha machines… Oh, _that_ clerk… Regarding 尋常に, my interpretation is that it comes from the expression 尋常に勝負 which means “let’s a have a fair match”. ([Source](https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1033416515) - basically it says 尋常に means something along the lines of 見み苦ぐるしくない - e.g. not in a disgraceful manner ). This is normally used before starting a match, so it coincides with your googling - I believe it can be used in sports, but I have heard it in video games too (Genji from Overwatch uses this phrase). Basically this phrase is used by this person to signal they are ready to start the challenge (of getting the rare gatcha, basically). > [@MaraVos](#): > > Then in the following panels he says the secret’s out, it’s 5 out of 50. And then “in other words, if we have ten …” He definitely has more than ten, so he should have some different characters, but he doesn’t, so he’s implying it’s rigged, I guess? I agree with your interpretation. He seems to be implying that since 5 out of 50 are the rare ones, he should have a good chance to get one by pulling 10. What conclusion can be reached from the fact that he only gets the same common figure though, I’m not sure - maybe he’s just very unlucky. ---
**Author:** ![liveunderwater](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/liveunderwater/32/618749_2.png) [@liveunderwater](https://community.wanikani.com/u/liveunderwater)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/11 "2022-01-12T01:06:04Z")
> [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](#): > > Clerk…? My understanding is this was just another customer wanting to use the Gacha machines… Chapter 5. The overly talkative Animeland store clerk. Same build, hair, glasses, shirt, and clipped run-on dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![NyappyTiramisu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nyappytiramisu/32/345668_2.png) [@NyappyTiramisu](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NyappyTiramisu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/12 "2022-01-12T12:23:23Z")
I think the bonus chapters are among my favourites so far, I always love seeing the lives of side characters 😁 Thanks everyone for reading along, this was a lot of fun and the discussions extremely helpful! 😊 ---
**Author:** ![fyrember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/fyrember/32/427476_2.png) [@fyrember](https://community.wanikani.com/u/fyrember)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/13 "2022-01-13T15:45:38Z")
Wow these chapters were pretty fun, it’s nice to see a bit more about the other characters and gives us a bit of a breather from the househusband’s adventures, which is nice! I have a couple questions, mainly words that I couldn’t decipher: > **Page 150** > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/a/7/4/a74052e74830907a422b84f8afcd889021a8b157.jpeg) > > I’m not sure what シノギ means > > I found either this: > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/0/f/5/0f585b1e9ed1ceba9f8ca6028c34063899d12a68.png) > > or the noun version of this verb: > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/8/6/1/861b88543600759884dd6808377f7611d1496bf5.png) > > Either way I don’t really understand what he means, I can stretch it to something like “the first thing in my path to endurance…” which would really be something like “The first thing in my routine…”, however it seems a bit too much, does anyone have a better interpretation? > **Page 153** > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/4/3/0/4301ebe9cd84d6cd46fec8f7d35bce59977aa9de.jpeg) > What’s サツ here, I can only find it to mean “Police” and it makes no sense in this context, gaaah ---
**Author:** ![NyappyTiramisu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nyappytiramisu/32/345668_2.png) [@NyappyTiramisu](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NyappyTiramisu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/14 "2022-01-13T16:47:00Z")
About page 153: This is サッと with a small ツ, meaning quickly 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fyrember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/fyrember/32/427476_2.png) [@fyrember](https://community.wanikani.com/u/fyrember)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/15 "2022-01-13T16:49:56Z")
I just can’t distinguish the small and big つ in this manga, it happened in another page but i could figure that one on my own. Also the mix of katakana and hiragana confused me, I thought it was particle と and that he went to shop and サツ , whatever that meant hahaha. Thanks for the clarification! ---
**Author:** ![NyappyTiramisu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nyappytiramisu/32/345668_2.png) [@NyappyTiramisu](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NyappyTiramisu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/16 "2022-01-13T17:05:19Z")
Oh I feel you, I constantly mix up big and small つ in vertical writing, particularly in manga 😅 ---
**Author:** ![anon99047008](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@anon99047008](https://community.wanikani.com/u/anon99047008)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/17 "2022-01-13T17:59:36Z")
> **Pg. 150** > > if I’m understanding [this Wikipedia article](https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%8E%E3%82%AE) correctly, the third dropdown talks about Yakuza/gangsters using the term シノギ to basically mean their methods used to get funding, which I imagine would be their day-to-day stuff, so I think you have it right that he is meaning it’s his routine. ---
**Author:** ![2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/2oc3aodkgwsglxfz/32/742852_2.png) [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/18 "2022-01-13T22:29:35Z")
> [@fyrember](#): > > Also the mix of katakana and hiragana confused me, I thought it was particle と and that he went to shop and サツ , whatever that meant hahaha That’s _actually_ the と particle, that’s why it’s written in hiragana. This is one of the properties of onomatopoeic words - a lot of them end in と or accept the と afterwards (this is usually marked with “Adverb-to” or “Adverb taking the to particle” in Jisho) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/7/3/5/7353959682bd9ceb48ed3d05e05aad88805185ec.png) So the _real_ onomatopeia is “ザッ” and と is the particle that quotes it and turns it into an adverb. This might seem a bit strange, but it’s something that also happens in English. 「With a “bam!” the door closed」- the “bam” sound gets quoted. ---
**Author:** ![DIO-Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/dio-berry/32/828567_2.png) [@DIO-Berry](https://community.wanikani.com/u/DIO-Berry)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-6-discussion/55140/19 "2022-01-16T17:38:42Z")
The clerk is too relatable. I feel called out for when I pull JoJo gacha 😭 😂 good thing there’s Mercari