# 極主夫道 | Week 4 Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [December 25, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906 "2021-12-25T07:57:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NyappyTiramisu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nyappytiramisu/32/345668_2.png) [@NyappyTiramisu](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NyappyTiramisu)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/1 "2021-12-25T07:57:54Z")
# Chapter 7 **Start Date:** 25 December **Last Week:** [Here](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-3-discussion/54808) **Next Week:** [Here](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-5-discussion/55021) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/8/e/b/8eb8dbcee1fc567fa24c41262581aadb59608a6e.jpeg) [極主夫道 ・The Way of the Househusband Home Thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/join-us-%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-%E3%83%BBthe-way-of-the-househusband-beginner-book-club/54153) ## Vocabulary List > **[The Way of the Househusband](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hv8GNR4DHkkSau79PYu2hMVgA8IkgDlWdhlBWnOB_S0/edit?usp=sharing)** > > This Sheet is private Please read the editing guidelines before contributing! ## Useful resources - Kansai-ben: [kansaiben.com | Kansai-ben index](http://www.kansaiben.com/9.Index/2index.html), [Kansai-ben in 極主夫道](https://japanese-sakura-neko.com/5-kansai-dialect-you-should-start-using-in-conversations-now-the-way-of-the-househusband/), [Osaka-ben transmogrifier](https://osaka.uda2.com/) - [Yakuza slang/極道用語](http://www.usamimi.info/~kintuba/zingi/zingidic-ya.html) - [Onomatopoeia](http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/search/?keyword=pipi&submitSearch=Search+SFX&x=) - Contractions: [Reference thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/quick-contraction-reference/33461), [more exhaustive list](https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2019/07/contractions.html) ## Discussion Guidelines - Please blur out major events in the current week’s pages, and _any_ content from later in the book/series, like this: texthere - When asking for help, please **mention the page number** (or % for eBooks). - To you lurkers out there: join the conversation, it’s fun! ## Participants Mark your participation status by voting in this poll: _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/1))_ _If you’ve read it before but will join in the discussion (or have read ahead), please select “I’m reading along”!_ ---
**Author:** ![aamunoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aamunoz/32/484793_2.png) [@aamunoz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/aamunoz)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/2 "2021-12-25T18:14:09Z")
Another hilarious chapter. I filled in the vocab spreadsheet (first time doing so in a bookclub 😊). Finally, all that time playing Hanafuda in Clubhouse Games for the Switch paid off! 😂 If only I played more Mahjong in there, I would have known the pon one as well without having to look it up. But in my defense, Mahjong is hard! Interestingly, the version in the video game above is just called “Hanafuda”. However, when I looked it up to be sure, it seems that [the version of Hanafuda where you can call “koi-koi” is actually a variant that is itself called “Koi-Koi”](https://jisho.org/word/%E3%81%93%E3%81%84%E3%81%93%E3%81%84). ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/3 "2021-12-26T20:40:13Z")
Wow, you did a great job too! You answered my main question before I even asked it (半か丁か), and if I’d checked the spreadsheet first you would have saved me a lot of time on instant glue. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![aamunoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aamunoz/32/484793_2.png) [@aamunoz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/aamunoz)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/4 "2021-12-26T23:03:36Z")
Whenever there is a bunch of kanji strung together like in that second example, my first instinct is to just throw it all into Jisho and see what comes out 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/5 "2021-12-26T23:20:55Z")
That’s what I did, but had to look up most (all?) of the kanji by radical, then copy/paste to Jisho, then back to my dictionary … 😅 ---
**Author:** ![aamunoz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aamunoz/32/484793_2.png) [@aamunoz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/aamunoz)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/6 "2021-12-27T04:13:15Z")
Ah, gotcha. If it makes you feel any better, these kanji are all in WaniKani. So in time, you’ll be able to read and type words like this even if you don’t know what they mean. That’ll make looking them up easier 😁 Even words with kanji that aren’t in WaniKani become easier to look up, because you think, “well, this kanji looks like this other one I know, so let’s try using the same reading as that one”, and often it will be the same! I did that recently with 秘訣, where I guessed the second kanji was read けつ since it looks like 決 and that was right. So, it does get easier! ---
**Author:** ![MaraVos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maravos/32/443784_2.png) [@MaraVos](https://community.wanikani.com/u/MaraVos)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/7 "2021-12-27T19:27:02Z")
Thanks! I seem to be one of the book club participants with the lowest WK level 😅 but that’s okay! It’s still going pretty good, even with hardly any furigana. Just a little bit extra sleuthing from time to time. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![sansarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sansarret/32/370654_2.png) [@sansarret](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sansarret)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/8 "2022-01-09T00:45:58Z")
> **Chapter 7 translation** > > ９１。 > そうなの急にPTAの仕事が入っちゃってぇうちの亮太少し預かってくれない？ > Well, listen, there is an emergency PTA thing, can you look after my Ryota for a little while? > はいいいですよ > Yes, sure > 本当！？助かるう > Really? You saved me! > いい子にしてなよ！ > You, behave yourself! > たまに見る怖そうなおじさんだ。。。 > This is one scary-looking guy … > ９２。 > さぁて。。。亮太くん何して遊ぼか？ > Hmm, Ryota-kun, what should we play? > ９３。 > お世話になりました > I’m very grateful to you > ん？おい待ったんかい > What? Hold on! > 甘いのいらんか？ > Do you want sweets? > ９４。 > さっきクッキー焼いた所なんや > I just finished baking some cookies > 。。。これおじさんが作ったの？ > Did you make these yourself? > 超うめぇ > Super delicious! > 焼いといて良かった > Thank god I baked them in advance > ９５． > よっしゃ なんかゲームでもしょか > Alrighty, what kind of game should we play? > え！ゲームあるの！？ > Ah? You have games? > おつゲーム好きなんか > What games do you like? > あのね あのね 僕モリオカー超得意な。。。ん > I’m, I’m, I’m very good at Morio Kart // Did they use Morio not Mario on purpose? > ９６． > 半か丁か > Odd and even > ９７． > こいこい ポン ピンゾロ > Koi-Koi。。。 。Pon。。。 Snake eyes。。。 > 思ってたのと違う！！！ > I thought we’ll be playing different games! > ９８． > もしかしてねえちゃんとかおった方が良かったんか。。。？ > Perhaps, it would be better if some girl took care of him? > あっこれ ポリキュアのコバルトポリスだ！！ > Oh, this is Polycure Cobalt Police! > ９９． > どーしたぁ > What!?? > １００． > ケガしてへんか亮太くん！ > Are you hurt, Ryota-kun? > ご。。。ごめんなさい。。。これ。。。これは。。。 > S-s-sorry…this… this is > 嫁が大事にしとるポリキュアのなんたらかんたら > My wife treasures this Polycure what’s her name. > 。。。おい！おい！！しっかりせぇっ！！ > Hey! Hey! Get a grip！ > ポリキュアの青いのぉ！！！ > You blue Polycure thing! > １０１． > ど。。。どうしょう > What are we going to do… > 心配すんな ケツモチは任せろ > Don’t’ worry Leave it to me to clean after you > 失敗は誰にでもある > Everybody makes mistakes > 大事なのはその後。。。 どう取り返すかや > What’s important is whether you can fix then after or not > １０２． > うちの組長もよう言うとった > That’s what my boss used to say > １０３． > やってもうたんたら埋めたらぇぇ > If you made a mess, you bury it. > １０４． > あれー何してんの？ > Huh? What are you doing? > １０５． > 瞬間接着剤 > Super glue ---
**Author:** ![anon99047008](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@anon99047008](https://community.wanikani.com/u/anon99047008)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/9 "2022-01-09T01:20:46Z")
> [@sansarret](#): > > Did they use Morio not Mario on purpose? Yes. Nintendo is notoriously lawsuit-happy, so they have to use a fake name to dodge troubles. ---
**Author:** ![yamitenshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/yamitenshi/32/713252_2.png) [@yamitenshi](https://community.wanikani.com/u/yamitenshi)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/10 "2022-01-09T02:43:20Z")
This is gonna be a quick one, I don’t have much to remark on this time 😄 > [@sansarret](#): > > Well, listen, there is an emergency PTA thing, can you look after my Ryota for a little while? No corrections on this one, but one point of note: both 急 and 入っちゃってぇ express it’s something that came up suddenly. > [@sansarret](#): > > Thank god I baked them in advance This feels both a bit forced with the explicit mention of “in advance” and a bit strong with “thank god” - you’ve got the idea, but the “in advance” meaning of ～ておく doesn’t necessarily mean “in preparation for something” or whatever, just something you did beforehand. Considering the previous sentence and this being a surprise visit, something like “good thing I baked these” is enough. > [@sansarret](#): > > よっしゃ なんかゲームでもしょか > Alrighty, what kind of game should we play? なんか is something along the lines of “something like …” - so this is Tatsu suggesting playing the game (and being open to other suggestions), not so much him asking what kind of game to play (which would be strange anyway considering what follows). > [@sansarret](#): > > Did they use Morio not Mario on purpose? Yes - in addition to the lawsuit-happy nature of Nintendo as mentioned by @anon99047008, it’s just common practice to slightly change popular brand names, so you’ll get things like WcDonald’s, Bepsi and Burger Queen. Japan doesn’t have fair use laws around copyright, so making use of a company name legal in any way, shape or form requires written approval from said company. Most publishers and authors opt to change the name in favour of going through the hassle. > [@sansarret](#): > > 心配すんな ケツモチは任せろ > Don’t’ worry Leave it to me to clean after you ケツモチ refers to something like the Yakuza cleanup crew (referring to disposing of evidence and such), so I’d say this is more like “leave it to the cleaners” - but it’s not wrong per se, since he does mean himself > [@sansarret](#): > > 大事なのはその後。。。 どう取り返すかや > What’s important is whether you can fix then after or not どう is how rather than if, so this is “how you make things right” rather than “whether you can fix them or not” * * * I gotta say, you’re making noticeable progress 🙂 It’s mostly some nuances and minor things here and there but no outright mistakes (as far as I can tell anyway), and your only point of (mild) confusion was the use of Morio instead of Mario. Do you notice reading this manga is getting easier for you by this point? ---
**Author:** ![sansarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sansarret/32/370654_2.png) [@sansarret](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sansarret)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E6%A5%B5%E4%B8%BB%E5%A4%AB%E9%81%93-week-4-discussion/54906/11 "2022-01-09T17:15:00Z")
> [@yamitenshi](#): > > I gotta say, you’re making noticeable progress 🙂 It’s mostly some nuances and minor things here and there but no outright mistakes (as far as I can tell anyway), and your only point of (mild) confusion was the use of Morio instead of Mario. Do you notice reading this manga is getting easier for you by this point? Believe me I had many other confusions along the way:slight\_smile:The biggest one is why reading Japanese is so difficult. With this manga I rely on pictures so much. The text here is also very colloquial (plus dialect), so harshly different from beginner grammar textbooks like Genki. I feel more comfortable reading now then let’s say a year or two ago, when having kanji without furigana would make such text out of reach for me. I should probably acknowledge to myself that I’m making some progress. Thank you for your feedback!