# 夜市: Week 10 Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [July 10, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828 "2020-07-10T13:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Naphthalene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naphthalene/32/219185_2.png) [@Naphthalene](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naphthalene)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/1 "2020-07-10T13:05:54Z")
[Join the Intermediate Book Club here!](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/18908) [夜市 Home Thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-night-market/43154) ## Week 10 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/b/9/5/b95663479dadf5c67fcb1ed9cd19bb0aef6e87e5.jpeg) **Start Date:** July 11th **Previous week:** [Week 9](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/44707) **Next week:** [Week 11](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/44927) ## Reading: | End Page | End Percentage | End Phrase | Page Count | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 157 | 73% | [End of section 5] | 16 | ## Discussion Rules - Please use spoiler tags for _ **major** _ events in the current chapter(s) and _ **any** _ content in future chapters. - When asking for help, please mention the chapter and page number. Also mention what version of the book you are reading. - Don’t be afraid of asking questions, even if they seem embarrassing at first. All of us are here to learn. - To you lurkers out there: Join the conversation, it’s fun! :durtle: ## Participants Mark your participation status by voting in this poll. _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/eefara/32/296524_2.png) [@eefara](https://community.wanikani.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/2 "2020-07-15T12:15:01Z")
Woohoo! I finished way early this week. Hopefully it’s because I’m reading a little faster than when I started the book. I’ll see if I can post questions for this week and last week in a bit. Seeing Komori again was pretty freaky, I gotta say. Hopefully he’s out of the picture for good and not some horrible creature that can survive a beheading. I’m also curious as to what Ren’s mom’s plan was. She just kinda dropped him off and left, right? ---
**Author:** ![jacobalbano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/jacobalbano/32/266878_2.png) [@jacobalbano](https://community.wanikani.com/u/jacobalbano)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/3 "2020-07-15T16:30:47Z")
This section was cool. I like the detail about the talismans Ren put on Kazuki to keep away the 死神; I like when a character is shown to be an expert in a field you don’t even know exists. The mood of this story is getting really good. ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belerith/32/518237_2.png) [@Belerith](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/4 "2020-07-15T17:47:34Z")
> [@eefara](#): > > spoilery spoiler I think he was just there to be a bit freaky and showcase what happens to the people who die on the 古道. I mean it matched what レン described would happen if you didn’t ward against it, and he didn’t care about coming by the guy who killed him at all either. I’m pretty happy about getting to finish at the end of a section. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/eefara/32/296524_2.png) [@eefara](https://community.wanikani.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/5 "2020-07-15T18:01:36Z")
> [@Belerith](#): > > I’m pretty happy about getting to finish at the end of a section. I agree; there’s something inherently satisfying about it. ---
**Author:** ![maskedkoala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/maskedkoala/32/290760_2.png) [@maskedkoala](https://community.wanikani.com/u/maskedkoala)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/6 "2020-07-18T01:53:38Z")
Cool section, indeed. Another addition to our list of things to not do in Fairyland: Don’t get born in Fairyland. Also, wondering if they bring カズキ back to life, will he still be the property of 古道. I feel like they were maybe setting it up a few sections ago when he was saying that he wanted to stay there and explore, too. I have a feeling that maybe he’ll end up trading places with レン. ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/eefara/32/296524_2.png) [@eefara](https://community.wanikani.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/7 "2020-07-20T13:28:08Z")
Question posting time, finally. Forgive any formatting/spelling errors; I’ve been banished to my phone for typing Japanese text for the time being. > **Questions** > > 65%: レンはすぐ目の前にある墓地の風景には **目もくれず** 、カズキの体屈みこんだ。 > “Without taking his eyes from the graveyard”? > > 66%: 雨の寺があるという **だいたい** の場所もわかっている。 > “The place usually called a/the rain temple”? > > 70%: 母は **四軒** の宿屋の一つで働いていた。 > Is this saying that there were four buildings to the inn? > > 70%: 決して宿屋が見えぬところまで遠くにいってはいけない、 **宿泊客が何をいってもついていってはいけない** 、そのようにきつくいいきかされていた。 > I highlighted the middle part, but I’m having trouble understanding the sentence as a whole. What are the repeated ~いってはいけない bringing to the table? > > 71%: ーー海も街も **見えはする** けれどね、決していくことはできないのよ。 > “I’ve seen the town and sea, but…”? And that’s it for this section, surprisingly. ---
**Author:** ![theghostofdenzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/theghostofdenzo/32/643458_2.png) [@theghostofdenzo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/theghostofdenzo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/8 "2020-07-20T14:40:33Z")
> [@eefara](#): > > 65%: レンはすぐ目の前にある墓地の風景には **目もくれず** 、カズキの体屈みこんだ。 > “Without taking his eyes from the graveyard”? That’s how I read it as well. > [@eefara](#): > > 66%: 雨の寺があるという **だいたい** の場所もわかっている。 > “The place usually called a/the rain temple”? The だいたい is attached to 場所 and it can mean “approximate”. So “approximate location of a place called the rain temple”. > [@eefara](#): > > 70%: 母は **四軒** の宿屋の一つで働いていた。 > Is this saying that there were four buildings to the inn? [軒](https://jisho.org/word/%E8%BB%92-1) is the counter for buildings. I feel like it’s saying there are four inns, but I’m not 100% 🙂 I’ll leave the rest for someone else ---
**Author:** ![Naphthalene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naphthalene/32/219185_2.png) [@Naphthalene](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naphthalene)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/9 "2020-07-20T14:48:55Z")
> [@eefara](#): > > **目もくれず** 、カズキの体屈みこんだ。 > “Without taking his eyes from the graveyard”? Without “giving” eyes → without looking. > [@theghostofdenzo](#): > > I feel like it’s saying there are four inns, but I’m not 100% That’s how I read it as well. > [@eefara](#): > > 70%: 決して宿屋が見えぬところまで遠くにいってはいけない、 **宿泊客が何をいってもついていってはいけない** 、そのようにきつくいいきかされていた。 > I highlighted the middle part, but I’m having trouble understanding the sentence as a whole. What are the repeated ~いってはいけない bringing to the table? It’s more like he is listing the things she said he shouldn’t do. The same happen in English. “she kept telling me sternly things such as ‘You should absolutely not go out of sight of the inn’, ‘whatever patrons say, you shouldn’t go with them’” (Had to flip the sentence around in English though). > [@eefara](#): > > “I’ve seen the town and sea, but…”? I can _see_ the sea and the town, but I absolutely can’t go there. ---
**Author:** ![theghostofdenzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/theghostofdenzo/32/643458_2.png) [@theghostofdenzo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/theghostofdenzo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/10 "2020-07-20T15:19:41Z")
> [@Naphthalene](#): > > Without “giving” eyes → without looking. Ah so it’s 目＋も＋くれる? ---
**Author:** ![Naphthalene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naphthalene/32/219185_2.png) [@Naphthalene](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naphthalene)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/11 "2020-07-20T15:21:01Z")
+ず for the negation but yes 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/eefara/32/296524_2.png) [@eefara](https://community.wanikani.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/13 "2020-07-20T17:22:13Z")
Thanks for the help, @Naphthalene and @theghostofdenzo! ---
**Author:** ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 7:58am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/14 "2020-07-26T07:58:49Z")
Life got me quite occupied lately, but now I’m catching up again 💪 A question and a remark from my side: 68%: 周囲に住宅が **なければ** 、古道も普通の山道と大きな違いはなかった。 The second part is clear (the old road was not much different from a normal mountain road), but I keep wondering why the author used ば in the first part. My intuition would be to translate this as As there were no buildings in the vicinity, but if I take ば into account, I rather get to **When** there were no buildings in the vicinity. ? Does this mean that the similarity only applied to those parts that were without buildings? Or am I misinterpreting something here? 69%: レンはゴザを敷き、吊るして寝床を作った。 My edition (Bookwalker ebook) has a typo here, I think: The furigana for 吊 is つる but the correct furigana would be つ. Do you also see this in the paperback book? (I hardly see any typos in Japanese books, that’s why I got interested.) Thanks for any insights! ---
**Author:** ![Naphthalene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naphthalene/32/219185_2.png) [@Naphthalene](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naphthalene)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/15 "2020-07-26T08:16:08Z")
> [@NicoleIsEnough](#): > > I rather get to **When** there were no buildings in the vicinity. ? Does this mean that the similarity only applied to those parts that were without buildings? Or am I misinterpreting something here? It’s more “if”, as in you can’t tell the difference if there are no building around. > [@NicoleIsEnough](#): > > My edition (Bookwalker ebook) has a typo here, I think: The furigana for 吊 is つる but the correct furigana would be つ. Do you also see this in the paperback book? > (I hardly see any typos in Japanese books, that’s why I got interested.) I got the same ebook as you, with the same typo, so I can’t really help 😛 ---
**Author:** ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 8:25am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/16 "2020-07-26T08:25:25Z")
> [@Naphthalene](#): > > you can’t tell the difference Oh! Putting it that way helps a lot with getting the “if” in there 🙂 Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![catbus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/catbus/32/240455_2.png) [@catbus](https://community.wanikani.com/u/catbus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/17 "2020-07-26T15:29:41Z")
> [@NicoleIsEnough](#): > > 69%: > レンはゴザを敷き、吊るして寝床を作った。 > My edition (Bookwalker ebook) has a typo here, I think: The furigana for 吊 is つる but the correct furigana would be つ. Do you also see this in the paperback book? > (I hardly see any typos in Japanese books, that’s why I got interested.) I have the paperback version and it also has that typo (on page 148). ---
**Author:** ![seanblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/seanblue/32/579844_2.png) [@seanblue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/seanblue)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E5%A4%9C%E5%B8%82-week-10-discussion/44828/18 "2021-04-01T01:48:48Z")
I just finished part 5. Why does this author love long, boring, and pointless backstories so much? It wasn’t as long or boring as the backstory at the end of Night Market, but I just did not care about レン’s backstory at all. Completely ruins the pacing.