# 保守主義 different pronunciation?

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**Created:** [January 20, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365 "2022-01-20T12:53:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![shingo85](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@shingo85](https://community.wanikani.com/u/shingo85)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/1 "2022-01-20T12:53:16Z")

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In Wanikani i checked the male and female voice for the word. The pronunciation is quite different  
The female voice is pronouncing it like ほ…しゅしゅぎ  
and the male voice ほしゅ…しゅぎ

I wonder is it a individual preference or a female/male preference?

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**Author:** ![bakugames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/bakugames/32/702997_2.png) [@bakugames](https://community.wanikani.com/u/bakugames)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/2 "2022-01-20T13:02:51Z")

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I can only find it with one listed pitch, so I’d assume it’s a quirk of the speaker and how they pronounce it.

I am not sure if its related to gender. I haven’t seen much about it, but I don’t remember different pronounciations for different genders

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**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/3 "2022-01-20T13:05:30Z")

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To me it sounds more like Kenichi is devoicing the first しゅ while Keiko isn’t devoicing it.

Presumably they’re both valid.

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**Author:** ![bakugames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/bakugames/32/702997_2.png) [@bakugames](https://community.wanikani.com/u/bakugames)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/4 "2022-01-20T13:06:09Z")

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A bit like how they have different pronounciations of the g- sounds?

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**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/5 "2022-01-20T13:07:32Z")

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Similar I guess in that they are different but both possible pronunciations. But I think someone who doesn’t use that kind of が will probably never use it. While someone who doesn’t use a devoiced しゅ here might still devoice it in other words. So they’re not similar in that regard.

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**Author:** ![bakugames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/bakugames/32/702997_2.png) [@bakugames](https://community.wanikani.com/u/bakugames)\
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Makes sense to me. Vocalization terms always escape me, so its nice to get a clearer answer

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**Author:** ![hallowtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/hallowtime/32/836337_2.png) [@hallowtime](https://community.wanikani.com/u/hallowtime)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/7 "2022-01-20T19:35:14Z")

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probably a male/female difference for speech habits

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/8 "2022-01-20T21:08:56Z")

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> [@hallowtime](#):
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> probably a male/female difference for speech habits

It’s possible it’s just a “two different people” difference as well.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%88%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9-different-pronunciation/55365/9 "2023-01-20T21:09:29Z")

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