# ホリミヤ ・ Horimiya 🎀 👓 Week 5 Discussion Thread (Absolute Beginner Book Club) **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [September 23, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360 "2023-09-23T23:56:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/41 "2023-09-27T20:43:31Z")
> [@lprubin](#): > > スツピン It’s a small ッ in katakana too. スッピン 🙂 Page 41 is in next week’s reading, though. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![lprubin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/lprubin/32/193250_2.png) [@lprubin](https://community.wanikani.com/u/lprubin)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/42 "2023-09-27T21:06:28Z")
The vocab spreadsheet says it’s part of this week as pages 41 and 42 vocab are included in it. The home thread also includes 41 and 42 in this week. My mistake if that’s not where to look for what’s included for the week. It’s my first week catching up to y’all. ---
**Author:** ![sliceolif3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/sliceolif3/32/644753_2.png) [@sliceolif3](https://community.wanikani.com/u/sliceolif3)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/43 "2023-09-28T18:11:08Z")
Finally caught up! It really does feel easier with time, even though I still have to look up new words and brush off unknown grammar but I can definitely knows the general meaning. When I started I feel like I was reading chinese or something lol ---
**Author:** ![Gorbit99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/gorbit99/32/7307_2.png) [@Gorbit99](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Gorbit99)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/44 "2023-09-28T18:23:19Z")
> [@sliceolif3](#): > > When I started I feel like I was reading chinese or something lol I mean, that’s not that far from the truth, is it ---
**Author:** ![8bg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/8bg/32/583859_2.png) [@8bg](https://community.wanikani.com/u/8bg)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/45 "2023-09-29T01:14:46Z")
Best bet is to check the “Final panel this week” in the intro post! ---
**Author:** ![anon99047008](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@anon99047008](https://community.wanikani.com/u/anon99047008)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/46 "2023-09-29T16:12:25Z")
Week 6 is now live! Welcome to Chapter 2! > [@ホリミヤ ・ Horimiya ribbon eyeglasses Week 6 Discussion Thread (Absolute Beginner Book Club)](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/63406): > > Welcome to Week 6 of the Horimiya book club! We are reading as part of the [Absolute Beginner Book Club](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/34698)! Week 6 September 30 2023 Pages 41 - 59 (39 - 57) Chapter 2 Last Week [Week 5](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/63360) Next week [Week 7](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/63482) Home Thread [ホリミヤ・Horimiya](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/62664)play_button The final panel(s) for this week Vocabulary [ホリミヤ Volume 1 Vocabulary List - Google Sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1ofa8HV6l6lGcdj8peCmuzE7yaQvpNjHDZPAY2VJVlE0/edit?usp=sharing) Please read the guidelines on the first page before adding any words. Please note that this was auto-generated and might need some additional editing, but… ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/47 "2023-10-01T21:50:48Z")
> **page 32** > > 悪かったわね > That wasn’t bad > > もう。。。セールには行かない > I won’t go to another sale again… > > でも３パックも買えたのすごいわあ助かる > But it’s great that you were able to get three packs, it helps > > あ。。。そういえば > Come to think of it… > > えーっとあの 会ったよ偶然んとその。。。 > Um… I met someone by coincidence, it was… > > 何!? 誰!? 会った!? > What? Who? You met someone? > > 堀さんが ユキって呼んでる人 > …That person you call ‘Yuki’ > > (Success! I conquered the clause modifying a noun =P ) ---
**Author:** ![noxxxxxious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/noxxxxxious/32/637906_2.png) [@noxxxxxious](https://community.wanikani.com/u/noxxxxxious)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/48 "2023-10-01T22:00:39Z")
> **page32** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 悪かったわね > > That wasn’t bad > > I believe this is Hori saying “Sorry”. > Sometimes 悪い/悪かった will be said as a “My bad” or sort of light way of apologizing. I think this kind of captures Hori’s stubbornness, cause imo she should probably say ごめん but she’s not very honest about her feelings, so she says this instead. > > > **Quick side note** > > > > A quick side-note that you will most certainly hear in anime and read in manga, is when people say stuff like this or won’t say thank you despite being thankful, you’ll hear someone say: > > [素直すなお](https://jisho.org/word/%E7%B4%A0%E7%9B%B4)じゃないな！ > > (Definition 2) ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/49 "2023-10-01T22:35:22Z")
Ooh, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/50 "2023-10-02T21:10:53Z")
> **page 33** > > 由紀かな。。え。。会ったってその格好で > You met yuki… like this? (in this form) > > 会話したわけじゃないけどね > It doesn’t mean we had a conversation, though > > 何考えてんだろ私 > What am I thinking > **page 34** > > 私以外の人に宮村のそういう格好とか見てほしくないな > I don’t want people other than me to see you like this > > ごめんなんでもない > Sorry, it’s nothing > > 忘れて麦茶持ってくる > I forgot to get the tea > > 作り置きしてあったかな > I wonder if (?) it was premade > > おにいちゃん食べないの? > Oniichan, you’re not eating? ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/51 "2023-10-02T21:15:02Z")
> [@soggyboy](#): > > 忘れて麦茶持ってくる > I forgot to get the tea You just combined lines from two separate panels. This is: 忘れて（ください） Just forget it. 麦茶持ってくる I’ll go and get tea. ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/52 "2023-10-02T21:16:18Z")
Haha, thought I was ahead of the curve because people are always telling me ‘these two panels were one sentence,’ my b. ---
**Author:** ![Gorbit99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/gorbit99/32/7307_2.png) [@Gorbit99](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Gorbit99)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/53 "2023-10-02T21:32:26Z")
> **p33** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 会話したわけじゃないけどね > > It doesn’t mean we had a conversation, though > > Theoretically this doesn’t translate to “it does not mean…”, that has a very different meaning in English than the intended meaning here. わけ is often used in contexts where you can’t translate it as “reason/cause/meaning”. Instead it sort of translates to “But we didn’t talk”. As opposed to “it doesn’t mean that we talked”, which would mean “yes, we met, but you can’t therefore say that we talked”, it means “Yes, we met, but we didn’t talk with each other”. > > This form of わけ is common, probably more common than using it as “reason”. ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/54 "2023-10-02T21:36:31Z")
> **page 33** > > Yeah, the literal meaning I found when I looked up わけ didn’t seem to quite fit the conversation, but I put it anyways. I was guessing it was something more like what you said. ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/55 "2023-10-03T22:09:27Z")
> **page 35** > > 堀さんあの > Hori-san, um… > > 俺も堀さんのそういう格好とか > I also [don’t want others to see] this form of yours > > 料理してるとことかね > [things like] cooking, > > 結構大きな声出して怒るとことか > Getting angry and using a big voice (? or would it be something closer to expressing big opinions?) > > 実は。。家ではどうでもいい髪型してることとか > In truth…the inconsequential (?) hairstyle you have at home > > その。。。筋肉の付き方がよかったり > Your muscles are nicely toned (This one lost me, thanks Gorbit for the translation haha) > > うるさいわよ！ > You’re so annoying! > > そういうの他の人見られたら嫌だなって思うよ > Seeing these kinds of things in other people would be disagreeable, I think > > それは私も嫌よ > So I’m also disagreeable… This page was harder than the last few 😅 ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/56 "2023-10-03T23:53:51Z")
> **page 36** > > なんかね > Something like > > この時間は俺だけのものだ って思うし > This time it’s something only for me. > **page 37** > > バカ言ってんじゃないわよ！ > Don’t call me an idiot! > (?Or is she calling him an idiot) > > 冷たい！ > Cold! > > おねえちゃんぼくのぶんは > おねえちゃん、where’s mine? > > ああもう！ > Jeez! > > なんでこうこっ恥ずかしいこと平気で言えるのよ > How is he able to say embarrassing things calmly? > > 無自覚？！無自覚なの？！ > Oblivious? Is he oblivious? > > 正解 > Correct. > **page 38** > > おねえちゃんの「バカ」はいっかいいうととまらないんだよ > Once she says ‘baka’ one time she won’t stop > > そうなの？ > Is that so? > > 訳わかんない > I don’t understand the reason > > 誰しも > Everyone > > 他人には見せない一面がある > There is one side I don’t show to other people > > お互いのこういう面を知ったのは偶然だけど > However, by chance we knew these sides of each other > > 学校での堀さんがイヤって訳じゃないけど > The school Hori is not ‘disagreeable,’ but > > そうやって怒ったり家では飾り気がなかったりする > Doing things like getting angry and being natural/unaffected at home > **page 39** > > こっちの堀さんの方がかわいいよ > This Hori is cuter > > 勝手に言ってなさいよ > Saying things as you please > > バカ > Idiot > > 他人は見せない時間の共有者になった > We became part time owners of the times we don’t show others Okay, I’m done with this section. 🫠 ---
**Author:** ![Gorbit99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/gorbit99/32/7307_2.png) [@Gorbit99](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Gorbit99)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/57 "2023-10-03T23:54:37Z")
> **p35** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > その。。。筋肉の付き方がよかったり > > Your muscles are nicely toned (This one lost me, thanks Gorbit for the translation haha) > > You’re welcome, here’s a few more > > Now this page, I’d try to translate Miyamura’s speech as, > “Things like x, y, z… I also don’t want others to see these”, it will make more sense why in a second > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 料理してるとことかね > > [things like] cooking, > > We talked about this a bit earlier, but that とこ is short for ところ, which here takes up the meaning of “point in time”. In practice this pattern is roughly equal to “When X” in English. “when you’re cooking”. > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 結構大きな声出して怒るとことか > > Getting angry and using a big voice (? or would it be something closer to expressing big opinions?) > > Big voice = shouting > “When you are shouting out of anger (lit.: you’re shouting and get angry)” > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 実は。。家ではどうでもいい髪型してることとか > > In truth…the inconsequential (?) hairstyle you have at home > > どうでもいい is generally “does not matter”, but used like this, it’s a “does-not-matter hairstyle”, which won’t translate nicely, but maybe I’d say something like “when you don’t care about your hair at home”, though that isn’t literal. > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > そういうの他の人見られたら嫌だなって思うよ > > Seeing these kinds of things in other people would be disagreeable, I think > > 見られる → to be seen, here “if others saw (that would be bad)” ---
**Author:** ![Jintor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/jintor/32/627217_2.png) [@Jintor](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Jintor)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/58 "2023-10-03T23:58:03Z")
> **p35** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 結構大きな声出して怒るとことか > > Getting angry and using a big voice (? or would it be something closer to expressing big opinions?) > > A _loud_ voice, but yes, literally a ‘big voice’ > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > 実は。。家ではどうでもいい髪型してることとか > > In truth…the inconsequential (?) hairstyle you have at home > > どうでもいい is like ‘whatever is fine’. He’s saying she doesn’t care how messy her hair is at home (because she’s doing home stuff) > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > うるさいわよ！ > > You’re so annoying! > > Literally correct, but contextually probably more like ‘Shut up!’ (out of embarrassment) here. > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > そういうの他の人見られたら嫌だなって思うよ > > Seeing these kinds of things in other people would be disagreeable, I think > > 見られたら ＝ 見る＋～Vられる＋たら, so it’s more “If other people were able to see”. And 嫌だ is いや だ, which in this case is more like ‘would be bad’ or ‘no good’. So altogether, more like “If anyone else saw [these things], that would be bad, I think”. > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > それは私も嫌よ > > So I’m also disagreeable… > > Hori is saying here “That is / for me also / I don’t like it”, so it’s like “I also don’t want anyone else to see those sides of me…” (Or more succinctly, “That would suck for me too”) /edit I don’t believe it, Gorbeaten again ---
**Author:** ![soggyboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/soggyboy/32/632282_2.png) [@soggyboy](https://community.wanikani.com/u/soggyboy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/59 "2023-10-03T23:59:10Z")
> [@Jintor](#): > > /edit I don’t believe it, Gorbeaten again It was a good try (But I also like reading multiple people’s corrections to get different explanations, so no worries!) ---
**Author:** ![Gorbit99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/gorbit99/32/7307_2.png) [@Gorbit99](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Gorbit99)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360/60 "2023-10-04T00:00:18Z")
> **p36** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > この時間は俺だけのものだ って思うし > > This time it’s something only for me. > > Not this time it’s, but quite literally “this time is something only for me”. Or rather “This is a time specifically for me” > **p37** > > > [@soggyboy](#): > > > > バカ言ってんじゃないわよ！ > > Don’t call me an idiot! > > (?Or is she calling him an idiot) > > I believe ばか is “stupid things” here. “don’t say stupid things” > [@Jintor](#): > > /edit I don’t believe it, Gorbeaten again Is it worse if I tell you that I’m typing this up on a phone? Though I was already halfway done with my essay when you started typing yours up. [Previous page](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A4-%E3%83%BB-horimiya-week-5-discussion-thread-absolute-beginner-book-club/63360.md?page=4)