# チーズスイートホーム: Week 1 Discussion (Chapters 1-3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [June 21, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427 "2019-06-21T19:07:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/43 "2019-06-22T20:00:25Z")
> [@scallions](#): > > Is it just me or is seeing some of the kanji and furigana using [https://read.amazon.co.jp/manga](https://read.amazon.co.jp/manga) _really_ difficult? I have the eBook via Rakuten Kobo, which is likely the same images as you’re seeing. It’s definitely what I’d consider too small of a resolution. It’s probably a product of the source material being from 2004. For those reading paperback, here’s what we e-readers see: ![i_0010%20sample](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/3/8/e/38ed02cb07d13cc30b9d324478fa440d9c2b74b9.jpeg) I’ve seen worse (especially for ebooks of 1990’s manga), but it can still be difficult at times reading the furigana in チーズ. So far it’s been kanji I already know the reading of, so it hasn’t been too difficult. Edit: One more example (showing a more difficult one, with the furigana on 気持ち): > **Scene from chapter 3** > > ![i_0024%20sample%202](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/6/e/1/6e13f9baa8a74c05c37b73c52925793046af826a.jpeg) Edit 2: This isn’t meant to be a complaint of the book on my part, by the way. But, rather, if we e-book readers have any question on what seems like a clear-to-see kanji, please be understanding =) ---
**Author:** ![scallions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/scallions/32/510698_2.png) [@scallions](https://community.wanikani.com/u/scallions)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/44 "2019-06-22T20:04:37Z")
Here’s what I’m looking at. It’s painful right now. 😩 ![%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%88_2019-06-22_15-03-38](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/b/0/b/b0becf3cf0a13b45b33e05d5add6cac23415ed9e.png) ---
**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/45 "2019-06-22T20:06:27Z")
> [@scallions](#): > > Here’s what I’m looking at. That’s about 75% the size I’m getting. Can you zoom in? I’ve never bought e-manga via Amazon, so I’m not familiar with their reader. Do you have a tablet or smartphone you can view it on to see how zooming works out there? ---
**Author:** ![scallions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/scallions/32/510698_2.png) [@scallions](https://community.wanikani.com/u/scallions)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/46 "2019-06-22T20:27:48Z")
It trolls me when I zoom in. I begin to zoom in and a second later it zooms back to normal, however it gets blurred with each zoom, haha. I don’t own anything other than my laptop, so those options wouldn’t work out. Best I could do is take pictures and use image viewers to zoom in and enhance. A pain, but , it’s worth it. It’s only for volume 1, anyway. I’ll get the real deal later on. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/47 "2019-06-22T20:37:53Z")
> [@scallions](#): > > It trolls me when I zoom in. I begin to zoom in and a second later it zooms back to normal, however it gets blurred with each zoom (Keeping in mind I do not know your computer software proficiency), this sounds like you may be using your web browser’s built-in zoom, rather than Amazon’s built-in zoom function (if there is one). The browser’s built-in zoom function (which you do not want to use) can probably be invoked by Ctrl+[mouse scroll wheel up], or Ctrl+[plus key]. (Not certain about on a Mac keyboard.) Typically, an image viewer (emanga pages are just image files, after all) allows zooming in by using a [mouse scroll wheel up] with the mouse hovering over the image. If you are using Amazon’s built-in zoom function, and it still causes issues, you can also try with another web browser (if you are able to install one). Firefox and Chrome are two common decent web browsers that can be installed and run on a variety of operating systems, so they’re easy recommendations. ---
**Author:** ![jsantosf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/jsantosf/32/244183_2.png) [@jsantosf](https://community.wanikani.com/u/jsantosf)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/48 "2019-06-22T20:44:58Z")
Wow, thanks for the detailed explanation. I appreciate this mini grammar class 😄 ---
**Author:** ![scallions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/scallions/32/510698_2.png) [@scallions](https://community.wanikani.com/u/scallions)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/49 "2019-06-22T20:45:33Z")
I’m quite computer literate. I am using my browsers zoom. This manga reader from Amazon doesn’t have one (that I can locate). I have Chrome, although I never use it. I’ll check it out and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/50 "2019-06-22T21:13:08Z")
> [@scallions](#): > > This manga reader from Amazon doesn’t have one (that I can locate). I just signed up for [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) and bought a cheap manga so I could test this. As you say, there’s no (that I can find, either) zoom function. But it appears to zoom to fit your window. Try to unmaximize the window, then resize it larger than your monitor. That will cause the image to resize large enough to read. I realize this is not a sufficient way to view the manga (unless you’re on a Linux system with a window manager that lets you move a window with Alt+[mouse click]). But I figured I’d toss it out as something to try. Edit: Alternative for Firefox, press Ctrl+[i] for the Page Info window, then click on the Media tab. Look for files with an address starting with “data:” and you can view the pages full size. But they may not be sorted in order. Again, not a real solution, but throwing out possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Viridithon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/viridithon/32/201749_2.png) [@Viridithon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Viridithon)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/51 "2019-06-22T23:54:34Z")
There seems to be a difference by reader too. Bookwalker has always had sharper images for everything I’ve found on their site. I’ve also noticed the difference within series like Inuyasha and Youkai Watch as well since Bookwalker made them available while I was still collecting them on other sites. ---
**Author:** ![rumyrrh247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rumyrrh247/32/258039_2.png) [@rumyrrh247](https://community.wanikani.com/u/rumyrrh247)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/52 "2019-06-23T00:19:16Z")
On page 8, does anyone know what the boy is chanting before he falls? It looks like うきや きや きや あい Is this just play/baby talk as he is walking? ---
**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/53 "2019-06-23T00:48:43Z")
So cute. 😊 Chapter 3, page 26, 戻ってきちゃった 🤔 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/8/9/4/894d06a03ba41b3ae7228763ba552855da3663d2.png) So far, this has been the one that feels less natural. Also, what would やらから be? 😅 Same page: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/5/0/0/500bef06f453d91eb4fc6390ab12c8645c40785f.png) It’s nice to be able to read 3 chapters of this in 10 minutes or so. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![scallions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/scallions/32/510698_2.png) [@scallions](https://community.wanikani.com/u/scallions)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/54 "2019-06-23T01:00:13Z")
Alright, guys. I’m wrapping up chapter 3 as I type this (last page). This is the first manga I am reading fully in Japanese and I wish to ask what the best educational approach is? I have a bunch of tabs open atm… dictionaries, kanji-by-radical look ups, etc. Is this… cheating? I find myself having to use jisho a bunch, as well as using the cheat sheet provided in the thread for vocab that チ uses. ---
**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/55 "2019-06-23T01:04:44Z")
I’d say that’s the way to start. Hopefully, you’ll need to look less stuff up as time goes on. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/56 "2019-06-23T01:04:48Z")
> [@scallions](#): > > This is the first manga I am reading fully in Japanese and I wish to ask what the best educational approach is? It sounds to me like you’re on a good path. I will always recommend [https://ichi.moe/](https://ichi.moe/) for dropping full sentences into, as sometimes two words form an expression that you won’t discover by looking them up separately, and ichi.moe will parse them as a single expression. Although, when it comes to Chi’s baby-talk, ichi.moe won’t be much help. For the adult characters, though, it should be useful. ---
**Author:** ![Viridithon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/viridithon/32/201749_2.png) [@Viridithon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Viridithon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/57 "2019-06-23T01:25:31Z")
Since Chi tends to use r’s instead of d’s, I read it as やだ から. Consulting the English version, it comes up with “Pwease, no more. I’m gonna pway dead,” so it seems to agree with やだ／いやだ. ---
**Author:** ![\_Marcus](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@\_Marcus](https://community.wanikani.com/u/_Marcus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/58 "2019-06-23T02:06:24Z")
Page 8 > [@rumyrrh247](#): > > On page 8, does anyone know what the boy is chanting before he falls? > It looks like うきや きや きや あい > > Is this just play/baby talk as he is walking? It looks to me more like うきゃきゃきゃあぃ (but small hiragana handwriting and my poor eyesight is not a good combination) and it certainly looks to me like he’s singing some kind of happy song. Beyond that, I’ve no idea! ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/59 "2019-06-23T02:47:30Z")
Aye, those are definitely small ゃ. I pretty much read it as a sound effect of joyful playing rather than a direct quotation of what he’s saying, but perhaps I’m on the wrong track there. ---
**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/60 "2019-06-23T02:50:00Z")
You’re the master of searching for random Japanese songs, though. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/61 "2019-06-23T03:06:27Z")
Curiously, when I Googled for うきゃきゃきゃ, suggestion number one was this: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSzj-FmTwXg) It was followed by several videos of children playing, though, so I’m still pretty sure it’s onomatopoiec for a child’s laughter or something. If you’ve really got your heart set on a song, I did find [this](https://utaten.com/lyric/%E6%B2%B3%E5%90%88%E9%83%81%E4%BA%BA%28A.B.C-Z%29/S+L+Boy/), though I haven’t been able to find any recordings of it on Youtube aside from someone’s **terrible** karaoke rendition. ---
**Author:** ![DD\_Owl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/dd_owl/32/237486_2.png) [@DD\_Owl](https://community.wanikani.com/u/DD_Owl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427/63 "2019-06-23T03:47:18Z")
What does もうやだから mean on page 26? Outside from もう I don’t really understand anything here, could someone break it down word by word if that’s even possible, since やだから might be one word [Previous page](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0-week-1-discussion-chapters-1-3/37427.md?page=4)