# セーラー服と機関銃🏫🌺 (IBC) - Week 14 **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [May 17, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951 "2024-05-17T13:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Domjcw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/domjcw/32/662743_2.png) [@Domjcw](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Domjcw)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/1 "2024-05-17T13:12:46Z")
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But please do not post until you are familiar with **Spoiler Courtesy!** > **Spoiler Courtesy** > > Please follow these rules to avoid inadvertent ネタバレ. If you’re unsure whether something should have a spoiler tag, err on the side of using one. > > 1. Any potential spoiler for the current week’s reading need only be covered by a spoiler tag. Predictions and conjecture made by somebody who has not read ahead still falls into this category. > > 2. Any potential spoilers for external sources need to be covered by a spoiler tag and include a label (outside of the spoiler tag) of what might be spoiled. These include but are not limited to: other book club picks, other books, games, movies, anime, etc. I recommend also tagging the severity of the spoiler (for example, I may still look at minor spoilers for something that I don’t intend to read soon). > > 3. Any information from later in the book than the current week’s reading (including trigger warnings that haven’t yet manifested) needs to be hidden by spoiler tags and labeled as coming from later sections. > > > **Instructions for Spoiler Tags** > > > > Click the cog above the text box and use either the “Hide Details” or “Blur Spoiler” options. The text which says “This text will be hidden” should be replaced with what you are wishing to write. In the case of “Hide Details”, the section in the brackets that is labelled “Summary” can be replaced with whatever you like also (i.e, [details=”Chapter 1, Pg. 1”]). > > > > Hide Details results in the dropdown box like below: > > > > > **Example** > > > > > > This is an example of the “Hide Details” option. > > > > The “Blur Spoiler” option will simply blur the text it surrounds. > > > > This is an example of the “Blur Spoiler” option. ## Proper Nouns | Name | Hiragana reading | Notes | Kindle location first mentioned | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 赤川次郎 | あかがわじろう | the author | cover | | 尾田医師 | おだいし | Doctor Oda | 24 | | 目高組 | めだかぐみ | Medaka clan | 86 | | **Izumi’s family** | | | | | 星泉 | ほしいずみ | main character, Izumi | 170 | | 酒井好子 | さかいよしこ | aunt Yoshiko | 172 | | 星貴志 | ほしたかし | main character’s father, Takashi | 179 | | 酒井呈一 | さかいていいち | Uncle (Yoshiko’s husband) | 201 | | 知子 | ともこ | Tomoko (?Izumi’s mother) | 211 | | マユミ | - | mysterious woman in Izumi’s apartment | 348 | | 土田恒美 | つちだつねみ | Tsunemi, real name of the woman pretending to be Mayumi | 1,827 | | 岡崎真由美 | おかざきまゆみ | The real name of Mayumi, friend of Izumi’s father, photographer. | 2,549 | | **Classmates** | | | | | 奥沢哲夫 | おくざわてつお | Classmate of Izumi, Tetsuo (son of an executive, smart dresser, family expect him home for dinner on time) | 251 | | 渡辺周平 | わたなべしゅうへい | Classmate of Izumi, Shuhei (stocky, bowlegged, loves Judo) | 251 | | 竹内智生 | たけうちともお | Classmate of Izumi, Tomo. (Smart, heading for Tokyo university, wears glasses) | 261 | | 和子 | かずこ | classmate, | 433 | | **Schoolteachers** | | | | | 三浦久子 | みうらひさこ | Miss Miura, teacher | 357 | | 保科校長 | ほしなこうちょう | Headteacher Hoshina | 368 | | **Yakuza** | | | | | 健次 | けんじ | Kenji, Medaka gang member, short, unbalanced (brought the doctor in the car in the prologue), chews gum | 555 | | 英樹 | ひでき | Hideki, Medaka gang member, skinny and unhealthy looking, wears thick glasses | 556 | | 武 | たけし | Takeshi, Medaka gang member, stocky and overweight | 558 | | 佐久間 | さくま | Sakuma, Medaka second in command, unusually tall (‘beanpole’), in 50s | 558 | | 浜口 | はまぐち | Hamaguchi, local Yakuza chief | 1,034 | | 関根 | せきね | Sekine, head of the Matsunoki clan | 2,141 | | 元 | げん | Gen, Yakuza henchman in the Matsunoki clan | 2,306 | | 剛 | つよし | Tsuyoshi, yakuza henchman in the Matsunoki clan | 2,306 | | **Other characters** | | | | | 黒木 | くろき | detective, head of the S section | 870 | | 浜口物産 | はまぐちぶっさん | Hamaguchi trading company | 936 | | 野田代議士 | のだだいぎし | Representative Noda, politician, waiting for Hamaguchi | 1,064 | | 岩田 | いわた | Night watchman at Izumi’s apartment block | 1665 | | 関根正明 | せきねまさあき | Son of Sekine, the head of the Matsunoki clan | 2,073 | | 円谷重治 | つぶらやしげはる | Shigeharu, left name on business card at Izumi’s apartment | 2,665 | | マクシム | - | Maxim’s [I presume this is a reference to the famous Parisian restaurant] | 2,480 | | — | — | — | — | ## Participation Will you be reading along with us this week? _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/1))_ _If you’ve already read this book but are still going to join the discussion, please select “I have finished this part.”_ ### Don’t forget to set this thread to **Watching** in order to stay abreast of discussion! ---
**Author:** ![Domjcw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/domjcw/32/662743_2.png) [@Domjcw](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Domjcw)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/2 "2024-05-19T11:33:06Z")
> **Sakuma and the street brawl** > > I was very confused reading this section to start with, because I thought it was Sakuma who got into a fight with someone who he bumped into. It made more sense once I figured out that wasn’t right. > > Although I can more or less work out what this means, is anyone able to break down this phrase? > > > 謹慎処分で気がムシャクシャしているところへ、パチンコはまるで出ない。他の連中が羽振りをきかせているのを見て頭に来たのだろう ---
**Author:** ![eaburns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/eaburns/32/623492_2.png) [@eaburns](https://community.wanikani.com/u/eaburns)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/3 "2024-05-19T19:09:26Z")
Maybe it’s because I’m rushing a bit more, but I feel like I’m having a harder time with this book the more I read it. That’s the opposite of my experience with most other books that seem to get easier or at least stay the same difficulty for me as I read them. ---
**Author:** ![araigoshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/araigoshi/32/585979_2.png) [@araigoshi](https://community.wanikani.com/u/araigoshi)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/4 "2024-05-19T23:51:37Z")
> [@Domjcw](#): > > I was very confused reading this section to start with, because I thought it was Sakuma who got into a fight with someone who he bumped into. It made more sense once I figured out that wasn’t right. I had some similar actor confusion in the discussion between Izumi and her aunt. There was one line of dialogue from Izumi about needing the boss’s permission to be there that I first misread as being from her aunt, so for a few lines more I had a vision of a familial power struggle incoming before it became clear that interpretation wasn’t fitting with the conversation and I had to go correct my mental image of who said that. ---
**Author:** ![Blackweather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/blackweather/32/672235_2.png) [@Blackweather](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Blackweather)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/5 "2024-05-20T14:45:54Z")
Lots of new characters and events upcoming and even more questions arising: - will Izumi have some more issues with her aunt? - is this 円谷 really responsible for killing Izumi’s father and if yes was it really just an accident in the airport? - why is 浜口 suddenly inviting Izumi for a dinner? ---
**Author:** ![Domjcw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/domjcw/32/662743_2.png) [@Domjcw](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Domjcw)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/6 "2024-05-20T15:09:42Z")
I loved the bit where Izumi suddenly switches voice and showed her aunt the implications of marching into a Yakuza stronghold I agree there are now multiple competing versions of the ‘accident’. I’m inclined to think that 円谷 is telling the truth. In which case those who have been suspicious of 黒木 may have been right all along. (My own theory is that the parcel is not drugs, but maybe an industrial secret). I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you (sorry, couldn’t help myself). I do know from reading ahead a week, but I’m not telling! ---
**Author:** ![pm215](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/pm215/32/510099_2.png) [@pm215](https://community.wanikani.com/u/pm215)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/7 "2024-05-20T17:54:05Z")
> [@Domjcw](#): > > I was very confused reading this section to start with Yeah, I thought this part was unnecessarily short on explicit subjects. There’s also a singular/plural ambiguity – you don’t know it was more than one person that bumped into them until the next page when it says four people… ---
**Author:** ![Boodil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/boodil/32/631992_2.png) [@Boodil](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Boodil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E6%9C%8D%E3%81%A8%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E9%8A%83%F0%9F%8F%AB%F0%9F%8C%BA-ibc-week-14/65951/8 "2024-05-21T21:30:49Z")
Glad I’m not the only one who found the street brawl scene challenging. For most of that scene, I just couldn’t get a mental picture of what was going on and I had to look up so much stuff it didn’t really feel like reading anymore. Did I understand correctly that Izumi is getting a new Mayumi roommate? If so, we’ll see how long this one is going to last, I guess.