# シメジシミュレーション | Week 5 Discussion 🍄 **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [October 23, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691 "2020-10-23T21:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Radish8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/radish8/32/206088_2.png) [@Radish8](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Radish8)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/1 "2020-10-23T21:33:58Z")
# Chapter 5: てんごく ## Pages 53 - 62 **Start Date:** 24th October **Last Week:** [Chapter 4](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/46533) **Next Week:** [Chapter 6](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/46848) ![Shimeji Simulation 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/9/3/3/9335535a67d0f7136a1733492edfa5c194a8eb7f.jpeg) [シメジシミュレーション Home Thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/45355) * * * ## Vocabulary List > **[Shimeji Simulation Vocab](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VVaMt5HMqSEkl8wiWrPTPyAe8pdPab-l-Ei6mjYdXfI/edit#gid=1266771204)** > > This Sheet is private _Please read the editing guidelines in the first sheet before adding any words!_ * * * ## Discussion Guidelines - Please blur out major events in the current week’s pages, and _any_ content from later in the book/series, like this: [spoiler]texthere[/spoiler] - When asking for help, please **mention the page number** (or % for eBooks). - To you lurkers out there: join the conversation, it’s fun! * * * ## Participants Mark your participation status by voting in this poll: _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/1))_ _If you’ve read it before but will join in the discussion (or have read ahead), please select “I’m reading along”!_ * * * ---
**Author:** ![2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/2oc3aodkgwsglxfz/32/742852_2.png) [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/2 "2020-10-24T21:01:39Z")
One question please meow~ > **Page 57** > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/f/c/5/fc5d512bac1d174d796936c85358b4f0b82cb89d.png) > > Having trouble with the handwritten part in the upper left. > > 顔(?)もメガネと(?)＿ればそこそこ… > > is my best guess so far… Any help is appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/4 "2020-10-25T02:50:18Z")
Well, I hope everyone’s read up on their manual keigo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/5 "2020-10-25T09:13:55Z")
I second the question about page 57. I tried figuring out the kanji by drawing it on my phone, but to no avail. > [@yukinet](#): > > フアミレスビッチ family restaurant bitch? I think ビッチ means ‘slut’ in this case, to contrast it with 処女. **Page 56** ![Screenshot 2020-10-25 at 13.25.10](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/5/e/9/5e94cc6904a5bf61f16fe605877c02d6fc9249bd.png) What does てき mean? **Page 62** ![Screenshot 2020-10-25 at 13.17.13](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/1/a/4/1a49a2a6623052afdc286424a6dcf63d771273d9.png) I still struggle with に sometimes. Why is it 私には instead of just 私は? ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/7 "2020-10-25T17:13:13Z")
Thank you! I will need to have a better look at this when I am better rested, but it looks like it might help me on a very fundamental level! 😍 ---
**Author:** ![jhol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/jhol/32/419121_2.png) [@jhol](https://community.wanikani.com/u/jhol)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/8 "2020-10-25T21:11:44Z")
It definitely looks more like てき but from context I’m pretty sure it actually says とき. ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/micki/32/678994_2.png) [@Micki](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/9 "2020-10-26T10:31:14Z")
> [@Phryne](#): > > What does てき mean? Is it 言ってき - i.e. ~てくる with くる in its stem form? On second thoughts I think it’s 言うてき, it could be this meaning: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/6/3/e/63efd76d6350c6216008ac29ce6af564dc91a256.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belerith/32/518237_2.png) [@Belerith](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/10 "2020-10-26T23:06:16Z")
とき definitely makes more sense in context. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/11 "2020-10-27T06:32:54Z")
> [@Micki](#): > > On second thoughts I think it’s 言うてき, it could be this meaning: > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/6/3/e/63efd76d6350c6216008ac29ce6af564dc91a256.jpeg) I think you only get てき like that after nouns, not verbs? I guess とき makes more sense ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/12 "2020-10-28T18:01:42Z")
> [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](#): > > 顔(?)もメガネと(?)＿ればそこそこ… I asked on HiNative and it’s 顔もメガネも取ればそこそこ. Though I think を instead of that second も makes more sense, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belerith/32/518237_2.png) [@Belerith](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/13 "2020-10-28T18:21:23Z")
I think it looks more like を, too. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-5-discussion/46691/14 "2020-10-30T17:34:11Z")
If you compare it to other occurrences of て (e.g. have a look at the text in the box where it says ~させていただく) you can see that て is written with three straight lines in zig-zag (like a z) so this one must be something different, and the closest character would be と.