# シメジシミュレーション | Week 4 Discussion 🍄 **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [October 16, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533 "2020-10-16T19:38:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Radish8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/radish8/32/206088_2.png) [@Radish8](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Radish8)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/1 "2020-10-16T19:38:10Z")
# Chapter 4: かたち ## Pages 41 - 50 **Start Date:** 17th October **Last Week:** [Chapter 3](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/46377) **Next Week:** [Chapter 5](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/46691) ![Shimeji Simulation 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/9/3/3/9335535a67d0f7136a1733492edfa5c194a8eb7f.jpeg) [シメジシミュレーション Home Thread](https://community.wanikani.com/t/x/45355) * * * ## Vocabulary List > **[Shimeji Simulation Vocab](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VVaMt5HMqSEkl8wiWrPTPyAe8pdPab-l-Ei6mjYdXfI/edit#gid=872090872)** > > This Sheet is private _Please read the editing guidelines in the first sheet before adding any words!_ * * * ## Discussion Guidelines - Please blur out major events in the current week’s pages, and _any_ content from later in the book/series, like this: [spoiler]texthere[/spoiler] - When asking for help, please **mention the page number** (or % for eBooks). - To you lurkers out there: join the conversation, it’s fun! * * * ## Participants Mark your participation status by voting in this poll: _Poll ([view on site](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/1))_ _If you’ve read it before but will join in the discussion (or have read ahead), please select “I’m reading along”!_ * * * ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/2 "2020-10-17T06:01:51Z")
Well, that was… ah… curious. Some interesting panel borders, too. ---
**Author:** ![Radish8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/radish8/32/206088_2.png) [@Radish8](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Radish8)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/4 "2020-10-17T16:10:42Z")
Yeah, it takes some remembering 😅 I’m just catching up on chapter 3, so hopefully will be able to get to this one this weekend 😊 ---
**Author:** ![windupbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/windupbird/32/220114_2.png) [@windupbird](https://community.wanikani.com/u/windupbird)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/6 "2020-10-17T19:50:15Z")
> [@yukinet](#): > > page 45 I think you got the overall meaning right ^^ 弦を張ってないギター strings-not-affixed guitar guitar without strings The spreadsheet had 弦 as “stringed instrument,” but I think here it’s just “string” (like the string of the stringed instrument) I think the meaning for たまたま was off in the spreadsheet too - it said “occasionally,” but I think the “by chance” meaning is what was intended in this case. “By chance, I brought a guitar without strings today” (which, 🤣 ok weirdo) > [@yukinet](#): > > 47 > > what’s the pun? > **Summary** > > On the paper it says かなしいたけ > 悲しい（かなしい）+ しいたけ (like shiitake mushrooms) I honestly laughed out loud when I understood this 🤣 This comic is so my style of humor xD > [@yukinet](#): > > ４８ > what’s the reading for 小なく Should be すくなく, I think (conjugated 少ない) ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/micki/32/678994_2.png) [@Micki](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/7 "2020-10-17T21:58:14Z")
Does Mogawa sensei have a mushroom growing above her left ear or is that just a hair clip? This was a funny chapter. I’m starting to enjoy this 4-koma format with a punchline at the end of most columns. I love the drinking through the hole in the fence! ---
**Author:** ![jhol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/jhol/32/419121_2.png) [@jhol](https://community.wanikani.com/u/jhol)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/9 "2020-10-18T00:10:50Z")
Great chapter. Something about the guitar and oscilloscope group had me cracking up. I also loved もがわ先生’s speech about the tree so closely following her nihilistic rant from the last chapter. ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/10 "2020-10-18T01:19:34Z")
> [@jhol613](#): > > guitar and oscilloscope group They’re the same girls who were talking about Potapotamian culture and the liminality of divinity back in chapter one, so they’re definitely coming across to me as absurdly intellectual. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/11 "2020-10-18T12:29:10Z")
Loving the weird humour that gives you something to think about. One question, what is っしゃした (page 43) short for? ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/12 "2020-10-18T12:51:23Z")
> [@Phryne](#): > > One question, what is っしゃした (page 43) short for? いらっしゃいませ. Which is to say, it’s the clerk speaking again. Or… considering the girls are standing outside, maybe ありがとうございました? ---
**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/13 "2020-10-18T15:30:17Z")
> [@Belthazar](#): > > いらっしゃいませ. Which is to say, it’s the clerk speaking again. > > Or… considering the girls are standing outside, maybe ありがとうございました? Yeah, I wasn’t sure. It ends in した, so I didn’t think いらっしゃいませ would work. ありがとうございました came to mind, but I thought しゃした might be a slurred しました maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Aislin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aislin/32/5295_2.png) [@Aislin](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Aislin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/14 "2020-10-23T12:25:21Z")
> **I have a problem with the message from the very last panel:** > > ![muchomory](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/2/7/6/2760cdfce3de4257890e2f74ec149513429cccb9.png) > > > _There are some things you can tell through shape and colour, but there are also some unknown things, but maybe it’s okay for some things to remain not described?_ ---
**Author:** ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/15 "2020-10-23T12:54:58Z")
I agree with your translation of the first box, but for the second one I rather read it as „but it’s probably ok to have these unknown things“. Does this help? If not, what exactly are you struggling with? ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/16 "2020-10-23T13:00:14Z")
On a related note, I’m curious as to the connection between the narration lines and the fact that she’s looking at the model of her mother’s face. ---
**Author:** ![Aislin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/aislin/32/5295_2.png) [@Aislin](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Aislin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-week-4-discussion/46533/17 "2020-10-23T13:04:07Z")
> [@NicoleIsEnough](#): > > If not, what exactly are you struggling with? Hmmm, but is it “ok” as in “I don’t mind if they are unknown” or is it even better if they are unknown, because it is fun to have some mysteries in life? > [@Belthazar](#): > > On a related note, I’m curious as to the connection between the narration lines and the fact that she’s looking at the model of her mother’s face. Oh, yep, that too. I’m just guessing that her mother’s face is the sample of an unknown thing here.