# よつばと! Vol 3 Discussion Thread (Yotsuba&! Reading Club)

**URL:** <https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798>\
**Category:** Book Clubs\
**Created:** [February 26, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798 "2018-02-26T05:54:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/2oc3aodkgwsglxfz/32/742852_2.png) [@2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/2OC3aOdKgwSGlxfz)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798/368 "2021-09-26T02:47:19Z")

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> [@DarQ](#):
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> - But is 影 (a noun) modifying うすい (an adjective)? does it give us “shadowy pale”?
> - から=from (indicates reason)

影うすい is sort of like a set expression that means that someone not stands out.

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> [@DarQ](#):
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> Another thing I’m unsure about is, when I wanted to translate the sentence to english I noticed, why is the verb in the affirmative form? Shouldn’t the past be more appropriate?

My interpretation is that Asagi means that she _tends_ to forget about him since he lacks presence, and that’s why she’s using the present tense. Note that she uses 時々 (from time to time) - this implies that she expects to forget about him again in the future. (She’s joking, of course).

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**Author:** ![Ovline](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@Ovline](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Ovline)\
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I’m not sure if anyone’s mentioned this on this thread yet, but does anyone know what あてる on page 64 when Yotsuba says “あー！いっちゃだめー！よつばが **あてる** のー！”.

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**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798/370 "2021-10-29T20:05:52Z")

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I believe this is 当てる with the meaning of making a guess. Essentially, Yotsuba was the one who was supposed to be guessing, not Fuuka.

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**Author:** ![Phryne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/phryne/32/331136_2.png) [@Phryne](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Phryne)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798/371 "2022-07-08T11:01:01Z")

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On the topic of those 線香花火, I found this video pretty interesting as well!

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/4/a/0/4a03fdc2edca01826045e88b738d89f1e9bcfa57.jpeg "A Japanese Master Craftsman Taught Me To Make Senko Hanabi Fireworks") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvoUYEu3o-c)

I have really been missing Japanese Style Originator, and this video kind of scratched that itch 😜

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**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798/372 "2022-07-18T04:09:48Z")

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During my first visit to Japan back in August 2010, we saw a fireworks display outside a Donki, but we passed it by, reasoning that we didn’t really have anywhere to let them off. I wish I’d thought to look for some senko hanabi, though - they’re small-scale enough that we probably could have done them on the street outside our hotel.

Though, oof, that constant American-style stressing of “ha-NA-bi”. Just put the stress on the first syllable, and it sounds much better - “HA-na-bi”.

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**Author:** ![NicoleIsEnough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/nicoleisenough/32/87285_2.png) [@NicoleIsEnough](https://community.wanikani.com/u/NicoleIsEnough)\
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> [@Belthazar](#):
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> senko hanami

Wow! Is that the type where lots of cherry blossom petals come out once you fire them off? 😜

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**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\
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I’m sure I have no idea what you mean. 😛

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**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\
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Ok, I didn’t know what was wrong with the pronunciation. 🤣 I might have been a bit stressed about it.

So it’s ha-NA-mi and HA-na-bi, right?

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**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\
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No, it’s more like, Japanese is unstressed, but since English **is** stressed, the closest way for an English speaker to emulate that is to put the stress on the first syllable. However, English speakers have a tendency to stress the second syllable of Japanese words instead, and I’m really not sure why. sa-SHI-mi and na-RU-to and po-KEY-mon and so forth.

But I digress.

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**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\
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Still confused, then.

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**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/%E3%82%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B0%E3%81%A8-vol-3-discussion-thread-yotsuba-reading-club/28798/378 "2022-07-18T06:40:56Z")

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Oh, are you referring to the fact that I accidentally wrote “hanami” instead of “hanabi” in my post before @NicoleIsEnough pointed it out?

Becase that’s fake news. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kazzeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/kazzeon/32/288210_2.png) [@Kazzeon](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Kazzeon)\
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I just want to know how to pronounce the words… 😥

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I can recommend Forvo to answer this question 🙃

It’s [Pronunciations for 花見](https://forvo.com/search/%E8%8A%B1%E8%A6%8B/) and [Pronunciations for 花火](https://forvo.com/search/%E8%8A%B1%E7%81%AB/) respectively.

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> [@Ovline](#):
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> I’m not sure if anyone’s mentioned this on this thread yet, but does anyone know what あてる on page 64 when Yotsuba says “あー！いっちゃだめー！よつばが **あてる** のー！”.

What about the いっちゃ part of this sentence? Can’t figure out what it means

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**Author:** ![enbyboiwonder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/enbyboiwonder/32/651773_2.png) [@enbyboiwonder](https://community.wanikani.com/u/enbyboiwonder)\
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ちゃ is a contraction of ては

It’s the いってはいけない (must not or don’t say) construction but more casual so the ては contracts and the いけない is replaced with だめ

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/3/4/d/34d99efeb2b0bab26ec23feed75aee3dac16c126.jpeg)

Wow, wouldn’t have guessed, but makes sense! Thanks!!

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**Author:** ![ChristopherFritz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/christopherfritz/32/33825_2.png) [@ChristopherFritz](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ChristopherFritz)\
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Also, welcome to the world where not having kanji requires you to pay more attention to context.

Without the kanji, these いっちゃダメ would be written the same:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/9/f/4/9f40fa7d9cde149af5a0aab6b0828de686018b73.png)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/0/f/7/0f7d5b040831855c1c2d9ced677592c2e94bef48.jpeg)

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Wow, didn’t even think about that, thanks for the examples!  
Even more tricky. And I also got used to Yotsuba saying 言う ゆう, which doesn’t even apply here

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thanks for pointing this out, it flew right over my head 😂

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Also I found this thread recently in the forums:

> [@Quick Contraction Reference](https://community.wanikani.com/t/quick-contraction-reference/33461):
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> I thought I would write a quick reference to help people understand some contractions which I have found to be incredibly common in popular media and casual speech, but which most textbooks tend to gloss over or ignore. My hope is that I can save some of you from spending as much time as I did being puzzled over some of these. This isn’t a guide on when or how to use these forms (although as a general rule most of them are casual speech, some of them are only seen in fiction), it’s just a refer…

Too bad it’s closed, but still a very useful reference!

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