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Me too. So many of the later opponents become recurring characters, I don’t remember this lady appearing again after this story arc.
Thanks to whoever was filling in vocab yesterday, and sorry for butting in part way through!
I did like Goku’s misunderstanding on page 20 where he calls her うれないババ - unpopular Baba, or non-famous Baba! In fact, given Shisckatchegg and I have both forgotten about her maybe the second one is the best translation…
I did remember the demons’ toilet part though! More the tongue-bridge one than the actual toilet one though… haha
It was me filling in, I realized I must have been the first one reading the chapter for once, that’s why I started doing it. Don’t worry about butting in as I had to stop reading soon after, hence only a couple of pages filled in the sheet.
These panels are from the translation of the original Dragon Ball. I found them helpful in the understanding of page 11. They also show that the penultimate panel on page 11 has been added by Ooishi for the SD version (I though this was a really funny panel!)
Summary
The first panel is: 俺たちが次の天下一武道会で優勝しようと思ったらわずかばかり修業では歯がたちませんね.
Thanks to whoever put in the spreadsheet that 歯が立ちません (not in Jisho) is the same as 歯がたたない (in Jisho!). I thought this was a useful definition for 歯がたたない - “The opponent is so far beyond my skill level that I can’t tackle him”.
I struggled with わずかばかり but it kind of made sense in context and looking at the translation.
I had read 占いババ as “fortune-telling Baba”. But I noticed in the translation they call her - “the all-seeing crone”. “Crone” means an “old woman considered to be ugly; a hag”. This ババ is 婆 - which Jisho lists as “old woman” or “hag”.
I just realised I got the page numbers wrong, because the chapters start one page before what looks like the title page
Also, why are Puar and Upa seemingly disqualified from fighting any more warriors, when they didn’t actually lose their fight? Another continuity issue due to cutting out bits of the original?
You always ask good questions! My thoughts - as always may be wildly off the mark!
In the original they weren’t going to fight at all but were brought in part way through the battle as they’d come up with a strategy to use them. They skipped that part in this story and imply they were always going to fight, but they use the same panel as the original on page 30 to take them out of the battle and pass the baton to Yamcha.
Yamcha says - thanks for your good work. That’s enough from you, I’ll go on now.
They reply - はい！たすかります！Yes, thanks.
This form of thank you is used to express that someone was helped by someone else and saved from an undesirable condition. So I think the panel implies that Yamcha is offering to take over (because they are weak and not really cut out for fighting) and their response indicates they are glad to accept and to be saved from having to face another opponent.
Perhaps just a straightforward “thing” - their blood looks like a tasty thing?
I can’t find a word which is つきおう, つきおる, or るきおつ so this must be a compound of two words. Jisho says おる can be used as follows:
to (have the audacity to) do - after -masu base of verb; indicates contempt or disdain for another’s actions
So perhaps it is 付く (to be connected with) followed by おる in past plain form? “You (brazenly) connected well with his weak points”
The translation of the original went for “you grasped his weak points ingeniously”
I read this as 始めます with a prolonged めー sound and the ます cut off.
I guess it makes sense that Puar and Upa opted out. I was surprised to see them fight in the first place! I should go back to reading the original alongside the SD volumes. And thanks for pointing out the subtext of 助かります, I think that confirms your interpretation of the events.
That might fit with the context? It says it’s a feminine expression though… but I do sometimes wonder how rigid those classifications of ‘male/female speech’ actually are
Your mention of つきおった being a compound verb made me wonder if 弱点をつく is a fixed expression, and that seems to be the case! Different kanji though:
On page 47, the final fighter is masked, but I love the little clues we get to their identity. The wrinkles on the side of the face, the bald head, the white moustache, the halo above the head…
Page 50
どんなによいこぶったやつにもぜったいに少しは悪の心がある
Is this よいこ (good boy) followed by ぶる (to assume the air of …; to behave like …)?
No matter how much a person appears to be a good boy, there is always a little evil in their heart.
Page 51 時代が時代ならこのアックマンさまがドラゴンボール史上最強の悪役になっていたことだろう
Is anyone familiar with that construction at the start? Deepl goes for “If the times had been different,” (…this Ackman would have been the strongest villain in Dragon Ball history.)
This is my first time reading this franchise so I was shook to see the surprise! Can’t wait to dive in in a few days